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    Diplomacy through strength being touted by Qaddafi:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ml&sSheet=/portal/2003/12/24/ixportaltop.html

    Follow my lead, Gaddafi urges 'rogue' states
    By David Rennie in Washington
    (Filed: 24/12/2003)


    Col Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, called yesterday on other "rogue states" to follow his dramatic example, by admitting involvement in banned weapons programmes, if they were to prevent "tragedy" from striking their nations.

    He sidestepped direct questions about whether the war in Iraq had influenced his decision to scrap nuclear, biological and chemical research, saying his motives were "not important".

    But his stark warning to other "rogue" states appeared to offer endorsement of Washington's and London's policy of diplomacy backed by pre-emptive strikes.

    Asked if he had a message for other leaders, especially the heads of Syria, Iran and North Korea, he replied: "They should follow the steps of Libya, or take an example from Libya, so that they prevent any tragedy being inflicted upon their own peoples."

    He went on to accuse Israel of harbouring illicit weapons, saying a wholesale disarmament in the Muslim world "would tighten the rope or the noose around the Israelis, so they would expose their programmes and their weapons of mass destruction".

    Col Gaddafi was speaking to CNN television in a Bedouin tent near Tripoli. He summoned the US news channel unexpectedly three days after the world learned of nine months of secret disarmament talks between Libya, Britain and the United States.

    Col Gaddafi denied that he possessed weapons of mass destruction, saying only that Libya possessed "certain machines" and research programmes. "We have not these weapons," he said, adding that his research projects "would have been for peaceful purposes - but nevertheless we decided to get rid of them completely."

    Britain and the United States say that Libya had confessed that it was closer than thought to producing enriched uranium, suitable for use in an atomic bomb. It also possesses chemical weapons.

    Col Gaddafi has not lost all his fiery rhetoric, telling critics of his weapons programmes: "You exercise terrorist policy against the Libyan people by accusing us."

    But he repeated his vow that international inspectors would be allowed to conduct snap visits to the formerly closed North African nation, saying they would learn "we don't have anything to hide".

    Sometimes speaking in English, he seemed at pains to reach out to Britain and the United States, insisting that his country was not a terrorist sponsor, and expressing hopes for a new era of Anglo-American commercial ties.

    British and American officials have not hesitated to credit the allies' tough line on Iraq for Libya's decision and believe the effect may spread.

    The Telegraph reported on Monday that Mr Blair hoped to use the Libyan breakthrough to step up secret talks to secure similar concessions on weapons of mass destruction.

    The lifting of US sanctions on Libya is the top priority for Col Gaddafi, who earlier this year paved the way for a re-opening of ties when he agreed to take responsibility for the Lockerbie bombing in 1988.

    US oil companies were leading players in the Libyan oil industry until 1986, when they were ordered out of the country by President Ronald Reagan. Marathon, Amerada Hess and ConocoPhillips jointly hold permits to develop the huge Waha field.

    Most of those permits expire in 2005, raising fears among US oil executives that their rights could be transferred to European firms.

    Col Gaddafi said that he had told Mr Blair that pictures of a dishevelled and disorientated Saddam "made everybody sympathise with him".


    22 December 2003: Iran and Syria are next to feel the heat
    21 December 2003: America sets sights on disarming remaining 'rogue states'
    20 December 2003: Libya agrees to dismantle all its WMD
    13 August 2003: Libya to pay out £6m for each Lockerbie victim


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    Ladies and gentleman, the new pup....spokesman for the US.... Libya!!

    Not to sound conspiracy minded, but theres something about this that doesnt sound right. how much did we bribe them with?
     
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    I think with his life. Don't forget, Reagan nearly got him, killed one of his children. He was on the list and knew it, took the better offering. You do realize Saddam would still be in Iraq, if he had done the same?
     
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    I can hear it now "Just a move for Bush to help his oil buddies to expand their businesses before the permits expire" :rolleyes:
     
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    Good point. I have noticed a certain tendency to selective deafness on his part.
     
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    But hey, diplomacy worked that's all that's important. Good for everyone!
     
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    Issac, that was in response to a 'real' threat of war, as demonstrated close to home, in Iraq. That is what the UNSC failed to recognize. Diplomacy's best chance is when it is back by more than trying to 'appease.'
     
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    of course, point enough guns at anyone and they will do whatever you need them to, most of the time.
     
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    Suppose so, though it didn't work on either major player during the Cold War. Since we don't have a penchant for pointing weapons around, while keeping our quiver stocked however, I don't think it's a problem, except for those that would like us to disarm. Not going to happen.

    If you want peace, be prepared for war....as DK just said,
     
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    I'm not terribly sure that it was diplomacy rather than the missile that killed his kid years ago and his fear of us doing it again as we've done to terrorists in the middle east. Don't get me wrong, I am all for diplomatic solutions, but I can't think of a single resolution that would have occured without the threat of what could happen if they don't work.
     

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