Weirdo teacher sacked for hateful behaviour to pupils

[Papageorgio]

The school has safeguarding procedures to protect the kids. His "rights" end when he steps thru the gate.

So lying is now safeguarding children, not getting them the mental health they need is no longer important? So if an adult that doesn’t like the way they look or feels wants surgery to permanently change themselves you are all for it?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So lying is now safeguarding children, not getting them the mental health they need is no longer important? So if an adult that doesn’t like the way they look or feels wants surgery to permanently change themselves you are all for it?

Absolutely. Its not my place to tell them who they are or what they are called.
If they want to be called Alice or Tom then that is just a fact. Whay else should they be called ?

 

[Papageorgio]

Absolutely. Its not my place to tell them who they are or what they are called.
If they want to be called Alice or Tom then that is just a fact. Whay else should they be called ?

So you are all for surgery for those that have false impressions on who they are? So instead of trying to help them feel better by therapy, you’d rather see surgery?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So you are all for surgery for those that have false impressions on who they are? So instead of trying to help them feel better by therapy, you’d rather see surgery?

Yes. How can I make it clearer.? You do know that they dont jut cut your bollocks off ? There is a process that they go through. It isnt done on a whim.
It should be paid for by the state the same as all medical treatment.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yes. How can I make it clearer.? You do know that they dont jut cut your bollocks off ? There is a process that they go through. It isnt done on a whim.
It should be paid for by the state the same as all medical treatment.

So you would recommend bariatric surgery to a person that emotionally and mentally feels they are fat? It is the same thing, a person having a bad self image.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So you would recommend bariatric surgery to a person that emotionally and mentally feels they are fat? It is the same thing, a person having a bad self image.

I am not qualified to make that decision. Neither are you. There are people who specialise in this field. Let them help the patient. That is their job.

 

[hadit]

Straw man alert. This isnt Kabul or Miami.

Which has nothing to do with your belief that the government should have the authority to compel speech.

 

[Papageorgio]

I am not qualified to make that decision. Neither are you. There are people who specialise in this field. Let them help the patient. That is their job.

So you are qualified to condemn others for actions but now aren’t qualified? There are many experts in the medical field that willl tell you that we are on the wrong course for treatment. The suicide rate after medical procedures is sky high, they mirror the rates of those with eating disorders. Both suffer depression because the brain for them is wired differently.

If a person in their mind believe that the world would be better off without them, should they be allowed to kill themselves?

An addict has a brain that is wired to crave drugs, should we give into them?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Which has nothing to do with your belief that the government should have the authority to compel speech.

Bigots should take jobs where they do not have to interact with people.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So you are qualified to condemn others for actions but now aren’t qualified? There are many experts in the medical field that willl tell you that we are on the wrong course for treatment. The suicide rate after medical procedures is sky high, they mirror the rates of those with eating disorders. Both suffer depression because the brain for them is wired differently.

If a person in their mind believe that the world would be better off without them, should they be allowed to kill themselves?

An addict has a brain that is wired to crave drugs, should we give into them?

Every medical body in the world is on my side. The right side.

 

[hadit]

Bigots should take jobs where they do not have to interact with people.

Governments have no business compelling speech. I see you dancing all around that, but refusing to address it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Governments have no business compelling speech. I see you dancing all around that, but refusing to address it.

Who says so ?
Th govt has a responsibility to protect us all from bigoted trash. Im up for that.

 

[hadit]

Who says so ?
Th govt has a responsibility to protect us all from bigoted trash. Im up for that.

Of course you are, right up until the government uses that power to shut you down at gunpoint. Then it's a tragedy, but it will be too late, because there will be no one to speak up for you.

Face it, whenever government gets power, it does NOT give it up, and it WILL be used in ways its proponents never envisioned or wanted. Here's reality, if you want to protect yourself from hearing inconvenient things outside your echo chamber, do so. You don't however, have the authority to keep other people from it if they want it. IOW, you are not, even though you desperately want to be, in control of what other people hear, say and think. That's for authoritarians who cannot handle people being able to think and speak freely.

 

[The Duke]

Of course you are, right up until the government uses that power to shut you down at gunpoint. Then it's a tragedy, but it will be too late, because there will be no one to speak up for you.

Face it, whenever government gets power, it does NOT give it up, and it WILL be used in ways its proponents never envisioned or wanted. Here's reality, if you want to protect yourself from hearing inconvenient things outside your echo chamber, do so. You don't however, have the authority to keep other people from it if they want it. IOW, you are not, even though you desperately want to be, in control of what other people hear, say and think. That's for authoritarians who cannot handle people being able to think and speak freely.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Of course you are, right up until the government uses that power to shut you down at gunpoint. Then it's a tragedy, but it will be too late, because there will be no one to speak up for you.

Face it, whenever government gets power, it does NOT give it up, and it WILL be used in ways its proponents never envisioned or wanted. Here's reality, if you want to protect yourself from hearing inconvenient things outside your echo chamber, do so. You don't however, have the authority to keep other people from it if they want it. IOW, you are not, even though you desperately want to be, in control of what other people hear, say and think. That's for authoritarians who cannot handle people being able to think and speak freely.

So you want a bigots charter.

 

[Papageorgio]

Every medical body in the world is on my side. The right side.

Not everyone in the medical world is on your side, plenty in the medical world don’t accept that type of treatment. Just like blood letting was accepted by the medical world, pushing a deadly polio vaccine was accepted by the medical world, it is fallible.

I am all about taking care of those that suffer anxiety, depression and other mental issues. I want what is best in the long term and with transgender dysphoria at a high suicide rate, and gets higher after surgery, it seems it is not working. With depression, anxiety and low self esteem increasing after surgery, and I am no genius but what we currently are doing is not working.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Not everyone in the medical world is on your side, plenty in the medical world don’t accept that type of treatment. Just like blood letting was accepted by the medical world, pushing a deadly polio vaccine was accepted by the medical world, it is fallible.

I am all about taking care of those that suffer anxiety, depression and other mental issues. I want what is best in the long term and with transgender dysphoria at a high suicide rate, and gets higher after surgery, it seems it is not working. With depression, anxiety and low self esteem increasing after surgery, and I am no genius but what we currently are doing is not working.

Conservatives are the cause of most of their anxiety. With their shitty bills and laws..

 

[Papageorgio]

Conservatives are the cause of most of their anxiety. With their shitty bills and laws..

Another non-response, it must be easy for you, judge, label, and move on, no tolerance no discussing ideas and viewpoints, whatever happened to real liberals?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Another non-response, it must be easy for you, judge, label, and move on, no tolerance no discussing ideas and viewpoints, whatever happened to real liberals?

These conversations were taking place 50 years ago when the right were oppressing Gayx.The right lost then and they have lost this one. Just give up on it and try and make a kinder world.
Its over and decency won.

 

[Papageorgio]

These conversations were taking place 50 years ago when the right were oppressing Gayx.The right lost then and they have lost this one. Just give up on it and try and make a kinder world.
Its over and decency won.

How am I not being decent? I call them what they want, which is more than I can say about others. I realize they have serious mental health issues, I realize they need help and they need it quickly because like other mental health issues because they have high suicide rates. I am for helping them, not perpetuating a lie.

When we have mental health issues how is it beneficial to bend to their mental health issues and lie?

The idea to give in to a mental illness is silly, it runs the same for physical health issues as well. Can you name illnesses that the cure is to go with a cure is to pretend that a lie is the cure?