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Yes I know that but 223 is a 22 caliber and Gunny said you could not kill anything with a 22Would that be like saying you can't kill anything with a .223/ 5.56?
Both are 22 calibers
Big difference. Those rounds rely on hydrostatic shock to kill.
But you can most definitely drop a deer with a .22.
I'm not going to split hairs or rehash one of the oldest debates in the gun world about the 22
Must have miss read your post.
Thought you said "
What is 100 rounds now, $200.00 + bucks?7.62X39 is cheap ammo you can accumulate tens of thousand rounds in no time.
Close, about $150.00
500 rounds for 200.00 bucks for 5.56.
That;s not bad, do you reload?
I reload 30-06, 44 Magnum, 223, 32 H&L Magnum, and 25 ACP. I don't yet own anything that shoots 7.62
My 44 Mag:
Fewer calibers means more ammo.
7.62X39 is cheap ammo you can accumulate tens of thousand rounds in no time.
Same as with 5.56
But what I try to do is have one caliber that will work with a hand gun and rifle
45 ACP comes to mind.
You can get this caliber in revolver, semi automatic handgun, lever action rifle or bolt action and semi automatic rifle..
I would think there were calibers better suited to multiple guns. The .45ACP can be fired in revolvers if you use the half moon clips, and I have not seen a lever action or bolt action in .45ACP.
The ammo producing plants are finally catching up with demand. I am hoping the price comes down..a little..
I have many employees, some of whom are enthusiasts like myself. Recent conversations with some of them prompted this post.
I hear so often that people want to buy this caliber or that caliber, to "add" to their arsenal.
I disagree.
My philosophy is different. I suggest to them, that accumulating calibers is not the ideal thing, but instead the accumulation of ammo is the thing to do. In other words, I'd rather have multiple 45s with a massive bulk of ammos, rather than multiple caliber weapons with few or no stockpile of ammo.
The point is, ammo is the key, not the number of calibers one might possess.
I see it a bit different, as I use different tools for different jobs. The majority of the time my carry weapon is one of my .40s but I have 9mm, .45, .357,.22 in hand guns that I like to walk outside to the range and shoot. For hunting I keep a varied selection for where and what I am hunting. Then I have ARs for varmints and the range then my fav SKS so I end up with an assortment. Usually when I go out to my range I end up with 5-7 different calibers because I can't choose one
But in terms of need vs. wise preparedness, I suggest that the accumulation of ammo over calibers is the key to economic and strategic accumulation. 
I have many employees, some of whom are enthusiasts like myself. Recent conversations with some of them prompted this post.
I hear so often that people want to buy this caliber or that caliber, to "add" to their arsenal.
I disagree.
My philosophy is different. I suggest to them, that accumulating calibers is not the ideal thing, but instead the accumulation of ammo is the thing to do. In other words, I'd rather have multiple 45s with a massive bulk of ammos, rather than multiple caliber weapons with few or no stockpile of ammo.
The point is, ammo is the key, not the number of calibers one might possess.
I see it a bit different, as I use different tools for different jobs. The majority of the time my carry weapon is one of my .40s but I have 9mm, .45, .357,.22 in hand guns that I like to walk outside to the range and shoot. For hunting I keep a varied selection for where and what I am hunting. Then I have ARs for varmints and the range then my fav SKS so I end up with an assortment. Usually when I go out to my range I end up with 5-7 different calibers because I can't choose one
Perhaps the definition of "multiple" wasn't agreed upon. I agree with your post. I guess my point was more toward the dude who has to have a 9mm, a .45acp, a .357, a .40, a .44, etc...
I agree with you. I have multiple calibers, but only 1-2 per application. Example: pistol= .45 and a conceal carry LCP (.380), and everyone should have a revolver, mine, a S&W .357 (requiring the accumulation of two different calibers). Rifle= 5.56 (a few, for the fam), and a 30 cal. Two shotguns, one tactical, one for hunting. Then my 7.62x39 Zastava, which is.....well, anyone who knows already knows. My point is/was, why would I want more pistol calibers? Why would I want another revolver caliber? Why does a person want more than a good .30 caliber and an AR rifle? Look, I know there is the "collection" motive and the "hoard" motive and the enticing appeal of the "must have" addiction....I get it in spades!!
The genesis of this thread was a conversation I had with an employee who insisted I must get a Glock 19, a 9mm pistol. I had to ask myself, why? If I was a collector for collection sake, then perhaps....otherwise, I'd rather just buy more ammo for what I got.
But, to each their own.... $$ and space being a big factor, of course!
In times of peace and prosperity collect all the firearms you want in any caliber you want.
In a shit hits the fan situation I'd have a 9mm. and a 5.56 a .22 and a 12 gauge because of the availability of ammo. Other than that,I have no use for a 9mm.
Do you let them carry at work?I have many employees, some of whom are enthusiasts like myself. Recent conversations with some of them prompted this post.
I hear so often that people want to buy this caliber or that caliber, to "add" to their arsenal.
I disagree.
My philosophy is different. I suggest to them, that accumulating calibers is not the ideal thing, but instead the accumulation of ammo is the thing to do. In other words, I'd rather have multiple 45s with a massive bulk of ammos, rather than multiple caliber weapons with few or no stockpile of ammo.
The point is, ammo is the key, not the number of calibers one might possess.
Everyone should have at least one .22 rifle, and one .22 handgun.Thinking about buying a 22LR as well. Saw a good article about those being perfect survival weapons.
Killled a lot of deer, some at fair ranges, with the .44 Mag Handi Rifle.I have different calibers for different tasks. The idea of one caliber for both sidearm and rifle is great. But it means compromising the abilities of each gun, especially the rifle.
It is illegal to shoot squirrels with a centerfire rifle in LA.I haven't owned a firearm in a while, but I was like you are, wanting both the same caliber. I went with the .22. Great for squirrel and rabbit, which are plentiful here in Louisiana. The 243, not so much because head shots are hard.
For defense, I gave up a bit, but figured I'd empty it anyway. About the largest game we have around here is whitetail. I'd likely not take him down, myself. The thing for me is that I was comfortable firing both the rifle and the handgun. Mentally, I felt good with them. The bullets were plentiful and dirt cheap, so could practice a lot and got good.
This was both during the Y2K hoopla and a serial rapist around here. I felt confident I could feed myself and fend off an attacker.
You can not kill shit with a 22.
I have many employees, some of whom are enthusiasts like myself. Recent conversations with some of them prompted this post.
I hear so often that people want to buy this caliber or that caliber, to "add" to their arsenal.
I disagree.
My philosophy is different. I suggest to them, that accumulating calibers is not the ideal thing, but instead the accumulation of ammo is the thing to do. In other words, I'd rather have multiple 45s with a massive bulk of ammos, rather than multiple caliber weapons with few or no stockpile of ammo.
The point is, ammo is the key, not the number of calibers one might possess.
It is illegal to shoot squirrels with a centerfire rifle in LA.I haven't owned a firearm in a while, but I was like you are, wanting both the same caliber. I went with the .22. Great for squirrel and rabbit, which are plentiful here in Louisiana. The 243, not so much because head shots are hard.
For defense, I gave up a bit, but figured I'd empty it anyway. About the largest game we have around here is whitetail. I'd likely not take him down, myself. The thing for me is that I was comfortable firing both the rifle and the handgun. Mentally, I felt good with them. The bullets were plentiful and dirt cheap, so could practice a lot and got good.
This was both during the Y2K hoopla and a serial rapist around here. I felt confident I could feed myself and fend off an attacker.
The.22 Hornet is not even legal for small game.
It is illegal to shoot squirrels with a centerfire rifle in LA.I haven't owned a firearm in a while, but I was like you are, wanting both the same caliber. I went with the .22. Great for squirrel and rabbit, which are plentiful here in Louisiana. The 243, not so much because head shots are hard.
For defense, I gave up a bit, but figured I'd empty it anyway. About the largest game we have around here is whitetail. I'd likely not take him down, myself. The thing for me is that I was comfortable firing both the rifle and the handgun. Mentally, I felt good with them. The bullets were plentiful and dirt cheap, so could practice a lot and got good.
This was both during the Y2K hoopla and a serial rapist around here. I felt confident I could feed myself and fend off an attacker.
The.22 Hornet is not even legal for small game.
It is illegal to shoot squirrels with a centerfire rifle in LA.I haven't owned a firearm in a while, but I was like you are, wanting both the same caliber. I went with the .22. Great for squirrel and rabbit, which are plentiful here in Louisiana. The 243, not so much because head shots are hard.
For defense, I gave up a bit, but figured I'd empty it anyway. About the largest game we have around here is whitetail. I'd likely not take him down, myself. The thing for me is that I was comfortable firing both the rifle and the handgun. Mentally, I felt good with them. The bullets were plentiful and dirt cheap, so could practice a lot and got good.
This was both during the Y2K hoopla and a serial rapist around here. I felt confident I could feed myself and fend off an attacker.
The.22 Hornet is not even legal for small game.
It wasn't. Every house in LaSalle Parish had a .22 at the door and a good squirrel hunting dog was very popular. If it was illegal, no one knew it. Like I said, I haven't owned a firearm in a while, and I'm in a city now.
It is illegal to shoot squirrels with a centerfire rifle in LA.I haven't owned a firearm in a while, but I was like you are, wanting both the same caliber. I went with the .22. Great for squirrel and rabbit, which are plentiful here in Louisiana. The 243, not so much because head shots are hard.
For defense, I gave up a bit, but figured I'd empty it anyway. About the largest game we have around here is whitetail. I'd likely not take him down, myself. The thing for me is that I was comfortable firing both the rifle and the handgun. Mentally, I felt good with them. The bullets were plentiful and dirt cheap, so could practice a lot and got good.
This was both during the Y2K hoopla and a serial rapist around here. I felt confident I could feed myself and fend off an attacker.
The.22 Hornet is not even legal for small game.
It wasn't 15 years ago, or no one paid attention. Every house in LaSalle Parish had a .22 at the door and a good squirrel hunting dog was very popular. If it was illegal, no one knew it. Like I said, I haven't owned a firearm in a while, and I'm in a city now.
You can not kill shit with a 22.Thinking about buying a 22LR as well. Saw a good article about those being perfect survival weapons.
You can not kill shit with a 22.Thinking about buying a 22LR as well. Saw a good article about those being perfect survival weapons.
i have killed lots of things with a 22
I have many employees, some of whom are enthusiasts like myself. Recent conversations with some of them prompted this post.
I hear so often that people want to buy this caliber or that caliber, to "add" to their arsenal.
I disagree.
My philosophy is different. I suggest to them, that accumulating calibers is not the ideal thing, but instead the accumulation of ammo is the thing to do. In other words, I'd rather have multiple 45s with a massive bulk of ammos, rather than multiple caliber weapons with few or no stockpile of ammo.
The point is, ammo is the key, not the number of calibers one might possess.
