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Right. Obviously it's a lot easier to say "everyone should have access" than actually figuring out a sustainable model for that. Quite simply, it's not possible while maintaining the level of care. If you're willing to considerably sacrifice the quality of care, then we could get everyone insured."but why do people from other country's come here for health care".....simple answer...THEY ARE RICH AND CAN AFFORD IT. Whenever the idiots say this, just remind them, no one is disputing the care our doctors give, we are saying everyone should have access to it, not just the rich.
Education is not a right the state owes the citizen, it is a duty of a good citizen to acquire one for the security of the state. It is sort of like jury duty.
Housing and health care are your responsibility. I do not have a right to your paycheck. Much as I would like it.
If anybody is being denied health care, then that is wrong. Preventative health care is simply a matter of budgeting for it. What's more important to people: cable and internet service or health care?Dave, I think the problem lies in the fact that we treat things like health care, education, housing, etc. as "rights."
THAT I believe is one of the roots, if not THE root, of the wrongful approaches to issues such as health care, education, housing, and the like.
If they're not rights then they must be privlleges. Are you okay with that?
I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that anyone thinks things like health care, education, and housing AREN'T basic human rights.
If anybody is being denied health care, then that is wrong. Preventative health care is simply a matter of budgeting for it. What's more important to people: cable and internet service or health care?If they're not rights then they must be privlleges. Are you okay with that?
I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that anyone thinks things like health care, education, and housing AREN'T basic human rights.
Phffff. People nowadays consider a bankruptcy a badge of honor. No longer is there shame associated to it.If anybody is being denied health care, then that is wrong. Preventative health care is simply a matter of budgeting for it. What's more important to people: cable and internet service or health care?I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that anyone thinks things like health care, education, and housing AREN'T basic human rights.
Again, why aren't you following? FIFTY PERCENT OF BANKRUPTCIES ARE THE RESULT OF UNANTICIPATED HEALTH EXPENSES.
That isn't resolved by "BUDGETING".
Phffff. People nowadays consider a bankruptcy a badge of honor. No longer is there shame associated to it.If anybody is being denied health care, then that is wrong. Preventative health care is simply a matter of budgeting for it. What's more important to people: cable and internet service or health care?
Again, why aren't you following? FIFTY PERCENT OF BANKRUPTCIES ARE THE RESULT OF UNANTICIPATED HEALTH EXPENSES.
That isn't resolved by "BUDGETING".
Looks like I am on ignore. ;^_^;
It is your responsibility for those you care for to get a job and maintain insurance.
Those who make it hard for folks to get a job by all kinds of idiotic government taxes rules, and confusion are who you should be yelling at.
Make it so folks can get jobs and get decent insurance that handles the issue, rather than going off and impeding job creation make making all kinds of weird mandates that are useless and expensive that prevent folks from getting decent coverage at a reasonable price are more of a problem than trying to rip off doctors and shaft hospitals through price controls and other scams that reduce the quality and availability of care.
Looks like I am on ignore. ;^_^;
It is your responsibility for those you care for to get a job and maintain insurance.
Those who make it hard for folks to get a job by all kinds of idiotic government taxes rules, and confusion are who you should be yelling at.
Make it so folks can get jobs and get decent insurance that handles the issue, rather than going off and impeding job creation make making all kinds of weird mandates that are useless and expensive that prevent folks from getting decent coverage at a reasonable price are more of a problem than trying to rip off doctors and shaft hospitals through price controls and other scams that reduce the quality and availability of care.
Dave, I think the problem lies in the fact that we treat things like health care, education, housing, etc. as "rights."
THAT I believe is one of the roots, if not THE root, of the wrongful approaches to issues such as health care, education, housing, and the like.
If they're not rights then they must be privlleges. Are you okay with that?
I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that anyone thinks things like health care, education, and housing AREN'T basic human rights.
I'm askin. If it is true and we are shitty number 37, why would anybody who is well off financially not go elesewhere for their healthcare. and I'm asking why did that wandering canadian dude sprint down here for his heart surgery?? He had 36 better places to choose from didn't he?
Now Willow, don't you be askin' questions these folks can't answer.
Lets see...its been asked and answered repeatedly. But since the conservatives don't like the answer, lets answer it again.
Yes ...Rush Limbaugh can receive the best hospital care in the world when he is sick. The problem is availability and affordability of healthcare. 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to healthcare costs. Americans put off preventative checkups because they can't afford the copays or must pay out of pocket. The poor use emergency rooms because that is what is covered.
The end result is ...USA is #37
Dave, I think the problem lies in the fact that we treat things like health care, education, housing, etc. as "rights."
THAT I believe is one of the roots, if not THE root, of the wrongful approaches to issues such as health care, education, housing, and the like.
If they're not rights then they must be privlleges. Are you okay with that?
I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that anyone thinks things like health care, education, and housing AREN'T basic human rights.
Anybody can go into a Wal-Mart Health Clinic and for $65 they can get a wellness checkup. The prescription will only cost them $4 in many cases.Lets see...its been asked and answered repeatedly. But since the conservatives don't like the answer, lets answer it again.
Yes ...Rush Limbaugh can receive the best hospital care in the world when he is sick. The problem is availability and affordability of healthcare. 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to healthcare costs. Americans put off preventative checkups because they can't afford the copays or must pay out of pocket. The poor use emergency rooms because that is what is covered.
The end result is ...USA is #37
and that's why 50% of our bankruptcies are due to unanticipated health costs.
cause we all know that a runny nose is the same as catastrophic care. seriously? is that the best you can do?
Now Willow, don't you be askin' questions these folks can't answer.
Lets see...its been asked and answered repeatedly. But since the conservatives don't like the answer, lets answer it again.
Yes ...Rush Limbaugh can receive the best hospital care in the world when he is sick. The problem is availability and affordability of healthcare. 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to healthcare costs. Americans put off preventative checkups because they can't afford the copays or must pay out of pocket. The poor use emergency rooms because that is what is covered.
The end result is ...USA is #37
Based on what criteria?
You have parroted that request throughout this thread. Are you obtuse?YouTube - "We're Number 37" - Paul Hipp
Go America!!!
What a clever way of getting the message across..Wish someone would have shown this @ Blair House yesterday.
Is some 'brilliant' liberal really citing this joke of a report again? I highly recommend that the OP dig a little deeper into that report as I did to see why America rated as low as it did.
Yes the Evil World Health Organization. Attack the messenger is always the best defense and is cheaper than actually FIXING our healthcare
Do you have any study from a reputable source that ranks us higher than 37?
Lets see...its been asked and answered repeatedly. But since the conservatives don't like the answer, lets answer it again.
Yes ...Rush Limbaugh can receive the best hospital care in the world when he is sick. The problem is availability and affordability of healthcare. 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to healthcare costs. Americans put off preventative checkups because they can't afford the copays or must pay out of pocket. The poor use emergency rooms because that is what is covered.
The end result is ...USA is #37
Based on what criteria?
#37 World Health Organization
Until you can provide a better rating from a reputable source we are #37
Instead of trying to shoot the messenger, why aren't you advocating that we improve our healthcare system?
Anybody can go into a Wal-Mart Health Clinic and for $65 they can get a wellness checkup. The prescription will only cost them $4 in many cases.
and that's why 50% of our bankruptcies are due to unanticipated health costs.
cause we all know that a runny nose is the same as catastrophic care. seriously? is that the best you can do?
It went up to 60% in your next post. Inflation?
You have parroted that request throughout this thread. Are you obtuse?Is some 'brilliant' liberal really citing this joke of a report again? I highly recommend that the OP dig a little deeper into that report as I did to see why America rated as low as it did.
Yes the Evil World Health Organization. Attack the messenger is always the best defense and is cheaper than actually FIXING our healthcare
Do you have any study from a reputable source that ranks us higher than 37?
I have access to a study by ME that ranks the US 1st in all forms of governments. No matter my ranking methods, you must agree.
No matter who had presented those bogus 'evaluations' of degrees of socialism amongst all nations, regardless of their level of sophistication, development and delivery of medical care, the judgment is meaningless.
