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As a Psych major I wrote my thesis replicating this study. Under strict guidance of a PHD I was forced to lie and manipulate the numbers to mirror previous findings of academics and their agenda.
I know more about this subject than you ever will
Health care in the US is free for those in need. This is the left crying wolf to advance their agenda.
do you know anything about this issue?
I am not a moral relativist.
I think the fact the richest nation on earth does not provide healthcare for all its citizens immoral.
I do not accept the argument that in any society class, privilege, and wealth are the only determinants of good healthcare.
I think that access to good healthcare is a good and a foundation for any arguments on individual freedom.
How can any American argue that something that hurts children is just the way it is and the alternate too costly.
How can an America without healthcare claim to be a religious, caring, freedom loving nation.
but but but if you are in fine finanacial shape why would you elect to stay and get your health care in shithole number 37? you are perhaps suicidal?
if you can AFFORD it, the doctors are terrific. Now go trying to pay for one if heaven forbid you have an unanticipated illness... or your insurance company drops you after diagnosis and you can't get new coverage because of a pre-existing condition.
are you intentionally not absorbing that?
This is going to be really weird, but I actually agree with you this.
There are major problems in our health care system. I completely disagree with the government takeover approach and I think it will make it much worse.
YouTube - "We're Number 37" - Paul Hipp
Go America!!!
What a clever way of getting the message across..Wish someone would have shown this @ Blair House yesterday.
YouTube - "We're Number 37" - Paul Hipp
Go America!!!
What a clever way of getting the message across..Wish someone would have shown this @ Blair House yesterday.
Is some 'brilliant' liberal really citing this joke of a report again? I highly recommend that the OP dig a little deeper into that report as I did to see why America rated as low as it did.
An even bigger problem was shared by all five of these factors: The underlying data about each nation generally weren't available. So WHO researchers calculated the relationship between those factors and other, available numbers, such as literacy rates and income inequality. Such measures, they argued, were linked closely to health in those countries where fuller health data were available. Even though there was no way to be sure that link held in other countries, they used these literacy and income data to estimate health performance.
Philip Musgrove, the editor-in-chief of the WHO report that accompanied the rankings, calls the figures that resulted from this step "so many made-up numbers," and the result a "nonsense ranking." Dr. Musgrove, an economist who is now deputy editor of the journal Health Affairs, says he was hired to edit the report's text but didn't fully understand the methodology until after the report was released. After he left the WHO, he wrote an article in 2003 for the medical journal Lancet criticizing the rankings as "meaningless."
Interestingly, the WHO completely failed to broadcast that America's health system ranked first in responsiveness to patients' needs for choice of provider, dignity, autonomy, timely care, and confidentiality. In other words, where it matters most to patients, the U.S. system excels.
Since health-care systems are created solely to meet the needs of patients, it seems only natural to assume that responsiveness would receive top consideration when judging performance. Yet, first-ranked France ranked only 16th or 17th in responsiveness, while second-ranked Italy ranked 22nd or 23rd. Oman was given a ranking of eighth in performance, but only 83rd in responsiveness to patients. And Morocco, ranked 29th in performance, was ranked at 151-153 in responsiveness--near the bottom of the list.
gone over?
yes, the right has deflected. not a single person on the right has addressed the actual issue.
sorry, kiddo.
this one's a major fail for the right because the right pretends the U.S. 'has the best healthcare in the world' without regard a) to whether it is true; and b) who is able to obtain that health care.
A country where 50% of bankruptcies are the result of unanticipated health care costs (largely among people who already HAVE health insurance) does NOT have the 'best healthcare in the world', no matter if I can afford to write my doctor a $600 check for my annual mammogram and sonogram, for which my insurance company reimburses me about $50.
I'm askin. If it is true and we are shitty number 37, why would anybody who is well off financially not go elesewhere for their healthcare. and I'm asking why did that wandering canadian dude sprint down here for his heart surgery?? He had 36 better places to choose from didn't he?
gone over?
yes, the right has deflected. not a single person on the right has addressed the actual issue.
sorry, kiddo.
this one's a major fail for the right because the right pretends the U.S. 'has the best healthcare in the world' without regard a) to whether it is true; and b) who is able to obtain that health care.
A country where 50% of bankruptcies are the result of unanticipated health care costs (largely among people who already HAVE health insurance) does NOT have the 'best healthcare in the world', no matter if I can afford to write my doctor a $600 check for my annual mammogram and sonogram, for which my insurance company reimburses me about $50.
I'm askin. If it is true and we are shitty number 37, why would anybody who is well off financially not go elesewhere for their healthcare. and I'm asking why did that wandering canadian dude sprint down here for his heart surgery?? He had 36 better places to choose from didn't he?
Now Willow, don't you be askin' questions these folks can't answer.
gone over?
yes, the right has deflected. not a single person on the right has addressed the actual issue.
sorry, kiddo.
this one's a major fail for the right because the right pretends the U.S. 'has the best healthcare in the world' without regard a) to whether it is true; and b) who is able to obtain that health care.
A country where 50% of bankruptcies are the result of unanticipated health care costs (largely among people who already HAVE health insurance) does NOT have the 'best healthcare in the world', no matter if I can afford to write my doctor a $600 check for my annual mammogram and sonogram, for which my insurance company reimburses me about $50.
I'm askin. If it is true and we are shitty number 37, why would anybody who is well off financially not go elesewhere for their healthcare. and I'm asking why did that wandering canadian dude sprint down here for his heart surgery?? He had 36 better places to choose from didn't he?
Now Willow, don't you be askin' questions these folks can't answer.
I'm askin. If it is true and we are shitty number 37, why would anybody who is well off financially not go elesewhere for their healthcare. and I'm asking why did that wandering canadian dude sprint down here for his heart surgery?? He had 36 better places to choose from didn't he?
Now Willow, don't you be askin' questions these folks can't answer.
Lets see...its been asked and answered repeatedly. But since the conservatives don't like the answer, lets answer it again.
Yes ...Rush Limbaugh can receive the best hospital care in the world when he is sick. The problem is availability and affordability of healthcare. 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to healthcare costs. Americans put off preventative checkups because they can't afford the copays or must pay out of pocket. The poor use emergency rooms because that is what is covered.
The end result is ...USA is #37
Anybody can go into a Wal-Mart Health Clinic and for $65 they can get a wellness checkup. The prescription will only cost them $4 in many cases.I'm askin. If it is true and we are shitty number 37, why would anybody who is well off financially not go elesewhere for their healthcare. and I'm asking why did that wandering canadian dude sprint down here for his heart surgery?? He had 36 better places to choose from didn't he?
Now Willow, don't you be askin' questions these folks can't answer.
Lets see...its been asked and answered repeatedly. But since the conservatives don't like the answer, lets answer it again.
Yes ...Rush Limbaugh can receive the best hospital care in the world when he is sick. The problem is availability and affordability of healthcare. 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to healthcare costs. Americans put off preventative checkups because they can't afford the copays or must pay out of pocket. The poor use emergency rooms because that is what is covered.
The end result is ...USA is #37
Anybody can go into a Wal-Mart Health Clinic and for $65 they can get a wellness checkup. The prescription will only cost them $4 in many cases.Now Willow, don't you be askin' questions these folks can't answer.
Lets see...its been asked and answered repeatedly. But since the conservatives don't like the answer, lets answer it again.
Yes ...Rush Limbaugh can receive the best hospital care in the world when he is sick. The problem is availability and affordability of healthcare. 60% of bankruptcies in the US are due to healthcare costs. Americans put off preventative checkups because they can't afford the copays or must pay out of pocket. The poor use emergency rooms because that is what is covered.
The end result is ...USA is #37
Makes a good point..
US is #1 in Aircraft Carriers
#1 in Nuclear weapons
#1 in Tanks
#37 in healthcare.
We do not blink an eye at spending $1.5 billion a week in Afganistan and Iraq....that is PATRIOTISM
But to spend money on the medical treatment for US citizens?.....That is SOCIALISM
Maybe we should stop spending 20 billion a year in foreign aid.
It's true that America's partly profit-driven, partly bureaucratic system is expensive, and sometimes wasteful, but the pursuit of profit reduces waste and costs and gives the world the improvements in medicine that ease pain and save lives.
"[America] is the country of medical innovation. This is where people come when they need treatment," Dr. Gratzer says.
"Literally we're surrounded by medical miracles. Death by cardiovascular disease has dropped by two-thirds in the last 50 years. You've got to pay a price for that type of advancement."
Canada and England don't pay the price because they freeload off American innovation. If America adopted their systems, we could worry less about paying for health care, but we'd get 2009-level care -- forever. Government monopolies don't innovate. Profit seekers do.
We saw this in Canada, where we did find one area of medicine that offers easy access to cutting-edge technology -- CT scan, endoscopy, thoracoscopy, laparoscopy, etc. It was open 24/7. Patients didn't have to wait.
But you have to bark or meow to get that kind of treatment. Animal care is the one area of medicine that hasn't been taken over by the government. Dogs can get a CT scan in one day. For people, the waiting list is a month.
RealClearPolitics - "Better" Health Care?
Don't forget that a system that denies care to everyone will get a better "fairness" ranking than ours as well. Yep. According to the WHO, a non-existant system that provides no health care whatsoever would rank higher than our system because it's "fair for everyone. No one gets better care than someone else." Isn't that cute?Once again we are not really 37. There are NO stabdards, each Country is free in each category reported to use what ever system they want to report with.
For example.... Live Births. In the US EVERY child that is alive AT the moment of birth is listed as a live birth, even the ones that have no chance of surviving more then a couple hours on their own. In other Countries live birth may mean the kid is a week old before they declare it a live birth.
And every category is like that. One can NOT compare Countires when one can not even know what the standard for repo0rting is and it is not a standard system for ALL countries.
Dave, I think the problem lies in the fact that we treat things like health care, education, housing, etc. as "rights."I want the United States to be last - in socialism. In fact, it's better if we don't cross the finish line either.
THAT I believe is one of the roots, if not THE root, of the wrongful approaches to issues such as health care, education, housing, and the like.
Dave, I think the problem lies in the fact that we treat things like health care, education, housing, etc. as "rights."I want the United States to be last - in socialism. In fact, it's better if we don't cross the finish line either.
THAT I believe is one of the roots, if not THE root, of the wrongful approaches to issues such as health care, education, housing, and the like.
If they're not rights then they must be privlleges. Are you okay with that?
