We need new rules for Congress

[RealDave]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote.

They already do. It's called an override vote.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

The system is working just fine for those it is intended to work for.

 

[JGalt]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

 

[RealDave]

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote.

They already do. It's called an override vote.

So why aren't they voting because Trump never signed that spending bill?

 

[H B Lowrie]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

But keeping to the topic, if we change the rules as the OP suggests, we can still keep all the dysfunctional partisanshit, right?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote.

They already do. It's called an override vote.

So why aren't they voting because Trump never signed that spending bill?

Perhaps you could link to the bill in question so everyone knows what you're talking about

 

[JGalt]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

But keeping to the topic, if we change the rules as the OP suggests, we can still keep all the dysfunctional partisanshit, right?

Sure, I like partisanship. If the Democrats aren't going to come to the table and work with us, screw 'em bigly.

We've always been the ones reaching across the aisle and compromising with the Democrats. But don't expect that to happen much anymore, the rules of the game have changed.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote.

They already do. It's called an override vote.

So why aren't they voting because Trump never signed that spending bill?

Perhaps you could link to the bill in question so everyone knows what you're talking about

Why would the language of the bill matter?

 

[H B Lowrie]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

But keeping to the topic, if we change the rules as the OP suggests, we can still keep all the dysfunctional partisanshit, right?

Sure, I like partisanship. If the Democrats aren't going to come to the table and work with us, screw 'em bigly.

We've always been the ones reaching across the aisle and compromising with the Democrats. But don't expect that to happen much anymore, the rules of the game have changed.

So yes, partisanshitheadism shall remain central and foundational to american politics. Thank you.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

I said at the time that was a crappy idea and it would bit us in the ass eventually. Those rules are there for a reason, and should not be tampered with.

 

[H B Lowrie]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

I said at the time that was a crappy idea and it would bit us in the ass eventually. Those rules are there for a reason, and should not be tampered with.

Oh they'll figure that out at some point when some "liberal" president doesn't get his way. The question remains however, Don had 2 years with both houses, why couldn't he have gotten his list done? "National Emergency" pouting and a shutdown?

Ok, my guess is you'll see this again. Strong man police state stuff though, straight up.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

FakeDave has no clue how our government is supposed to work.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

The Left think they’re smarter than the Founding Fathers.

 

[Ringel05]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

I said at the time that was a crappy idea and it would bit us in the ass eventually. Those rules are there for a reason, and should not be tampered with.

Oh they'll figure that out at some point when some "liberal" president doesn't get his way. The question remains however, Don had 2 years with both houses, why couldn't he have gotten his list done? "National Emergency" pouting and a shutdown?

Ok, my guess is you'll see this again. Strong man police state stuff though, straight up.

If you say so Crusader Rabbit.......

 

[H B Lowrie]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

I said at the time that was a crappy idea and it would bit us in the ass eventually. Those rules are there for a reason, and should not be tampered with.

Oh they'll figure that out at some point when some "liberal" president doesn't get his way. The question remains however, Don had 2 years with both houses, why couldn't he have gotten his list done? "National Emergency" pouting and a shutdown?

Ok, my guess is you'll see this again. Strong man police state stuff though, straight up.

If you say so Crusader Rabbit.......

Watch shoog. Just like the re-rigging of the economic system over the past half century. As the rabble quibble amongst themselves incrementalism is always at work underneath the spectacle, chaos and illusion.

 

[sparky]

So yes, partisanshitheadism shall remain central and foundational to american politics. Thank you.

obviously contagious.......

~S~

 

[Ringel05]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

Harry Reid was the one who triggered the rarely-used procedural option called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

Hurts, don't it?

I said at the time that was a crappy idea and it would bit us in the ass eventually. Those rules are there for a reason, and should not be tampered with.

Oh they'll figure that out at some point when some "liberal" president doesn't get his way. The question remains however, Don had 2 years with both houses, why couldn't he have gotten his list done? "National Emergency" pouting and a shutdown?

Ok, my guess is you'll see this again. Strong man police state stuff though, straight up.

If you say so Crusader Rabbit.......

Watch shoog. Just like the re-rigging of the economic system over the past half century. As the rabble quibble amongst themselves incrementalism is always at work underneath the spectacle, chaos and illusion.

No matter how much you wish it were true we ain't there yet Sparky....... But keep on preachin' the word brother!!!

 

[H B Lowrie]

So yes, partisanshitheadism shall remain central and foundational to american politics. Thank you.

obviously contagious.......

~S~

It is universally and duplicitly decried and yet addictively practiced in america. The positive feedback loop is fomented booth by the political system itself, by the corporate state media machine, and by the american people themselves. Like most of what americans moan and wail about about, they participate in and cooperate with the very thing they/we decry. Someone else should change you see, americans should never have to expect to alter their own behavior to realize a different outcome.

 

[koshergrl]

Trump has refused to sign the latest funding bill. Presidents are supposed to be able to veto bills.

The problem lies in how the House & Senate operate.

Majority leadership dictate what gets a vote. With Mitch McConnell, Trump is dictating what gets a vote.

Any bill that has been vetoed should return to the houses for a revote. Regardless if a Presidents orders his Senate leader not to. Because in allowing this, wed allow for no veto overrides.

The system is working just fine for those it is intended to work for.

Yes. Americans.