We must restore constitutional government

[Billy_Kinetta]

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’

Arguably not since 1803, but certainly not since the 1860s.

All states need to reassert their authority under the 10th Amendment.

They don't have the authority you think they do.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

They have all the authority not specifically granted the federal government under the Constitution.

 

[P@triot]

Okay, so restore what you think is constitutional government.

Just do it constitutionally.

What would that plan look like?

It's simple. The document is straight forward. The federal government is responsible for 18 things and 18 things only. Things like defense (the military), IP (the patent office), currency, etc.

Anything outside of those items disappear. So for instance - the Department of Education (unconstitutionally created by Jimmy Carter) is shut down. The EPA is shut down. The Department of Energy is shut down.

And if the American people believe they will die unless the federal government overseas those departments which were shut down, then they are welcome to legally and properly amend the U.S. Constitution to make those items the responsibility of the federal government.

So how easy that is?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Conservatives and liberals have no interest in Constitutional government. You're only for the Constitution when it supports your views.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Okay, so restore what you think is constitutional government.

Just do it constitutionally.

What would that plan look like?

It's simple. The document is straight forward. The federal government is responsible for 18 things and 18 things only. Things like defense (the military), IP (the patent office), currency, etc.

Anything outside of those items disappear. So for instance - the Department of Education (unconstitutionally created by Jimmy Carter) is shut down. The EPA is shut down. The Department of Energy is shut down.

And if the American people believe they will die unless the federal government overseas those departments which were shut down, then they are welcome to legally and properly amend the U.S. Constitution to make those items the responsibility of the federal government.

So how easy that is?

So how do you constitutionally shut down those departments?

 

[P@triot]

Conservatives and liberals have no interest in Constitutional government. You're only for the Constitution when it supports your views.

How do you figure?

 

[P@triot]

Okay, so restore what you think is constitutional government.

Just do it constitutionally.

What would that plan look like?

It's simple. The document is straight forward. The federal government is responsible for 18 things and 18 things only. Things like defense (the military), IP (the patent office), currency, etc.

Anything outside of those items disappear. So for instance - the Department of Education (unconstitutionally created by Jimmy Carter) is shut down. The EPA is shut down. The Department of Energy is shut down.

And if the American people believe they will die unless the federal government overseas those departments which were shut down, then they are welcome to legally and properly amend the U.S. Constitution to make those items the responsibility of the federal government.

So how easy that is?

So how do you constitutionally shut down those departments?

How do you shut down a laptop? How do you shut down a tv? You simply shut them down. Everyone's position is eliminated and they are sent home.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Conservatives and liberals have no interest in Constitutional government. You're only for the Constitution when it supports your views.

How do you figure?

Electronic impulses constantly fire throughout a neural network in my brain.

 

[P@triot]

Conservatives and liberals have no interest in Constitutional government. You're only for the Constitution when it supports your views.

How do you figure?

Electronic impulses constantly fire throughout a neural network in my brain.

Well based on your last comment - I'm thinking the impulses aren't firing properly or the neural network is down.

 

[P@triot]

Come on C_Clayton_Jones - tell us again how we're operating under Constitutional government you jack-ass. I mean, we haven't been for roughly 150 years now, but one needs to be educated to realize that. So none of us expect you to understand.

Operation CHAOS or Operation MHCHAOS was the code name for an American domestic espionage project conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency. A department within the CIA was established in 1967 on orders from President of the United States Lyndon B. Johnson and later expanded under President Richard Nixon. The operation was launched under Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Richard Helms, by chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton, and headed by Richard Ober. The program's goal was to unmask possible foreign influences on the student antiwar movement.

Operation CHAOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P@triot]

Come on C_Clayton_Jones - tell us again how we're operating under Constitutional government, genius.

Project MINARET was a sister project to Project SHAMROCK operated by the National Security Agency (NSA), which, after intercepting electronic communications that contained the names of predesignated US citizens, passed them to other government law enforcement and intelligence organizations.[1] Intercepted messages were disseminated to the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (BNDD), and the Department of Defense.

The names were on "watch lists" of American citizens, generated by Executive Branch law enforcement and intelligence agencies, to detect communications involving the listed individuals. There was no judicial oversight, and the project had no warrants for interception.

Project MINARET - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[NYcarbineer]

Come on C_Clayton_Jones - tell us again how we're operating under Constitutional government you jack-ass. I mean, we haven't been for roughly 150 years now, but one needs to be educated to realize that. So none of us expect you to understand.

Operation CHAOS or Operation MHCHAOS was the code name for an American domestic espionage project conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency. A department within the CIA was established in 1967 on orders from President of the United States Lyndon B. Johnson and later expanded under President Richard Nixon. The operation was launched under Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Richard Helms, by chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton, and headed by Richard Ober. The program's goal was to unmask possible foreign influences on the student antiwar movement.

Operation CHAOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are of course operating under a constitutional government. You just don't like the outcome.

 

[P@triot]

Come on C_Clayton_Jones - tell us again how we're operating under Constitutional government you jack-ass. I mean, we haven't been for roughly 150 years now, but one needs to be educated to realize that. So none of us expect you to understand.

Operation CHAOS or Operation MHCHAOS was the code name for an American domestic espionage project conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency. A department within the CIA was established in 1967 on orders from President of the United States Lyndon B. Johnson and later expanded under President Richard Nixon. The operation was launched under Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Richard Helms, by chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton, and headed by Richard Ober. The program's goal was to unmask possible foreign influences on the student antiwar movement.

Operation CHAOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are of course operating under a constitutional government. You just don't like the outcome.

So domestic spying - without a court order - is "constitutional" in your mind? Please. Not even you believe that. Nice try though. Thanks for playing.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Come on C_Clayton_Jones - tell us again how we're operating under Constitutional government you jack-ass. I mean, we haven't been for roughly 150 years now, but one needs to be educated to realize that. So none of us expect you to understand.

Operation CHAOS or Operation MHCHAOS was the code name for an American domestic espionage project conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency. A department within the CIA was established in 1967 on orders from President of the United States Lyndon B. Johnson and later expanded under President Richard Nixon. The operation was launched under Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Richard Helms, by chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton, and headed by Richard Ober. The program's goal was to unmask possible foreign influences on the student antiwar movement.

Operation CHAOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are of course operating under a constitutional government. You just don't like the outcome.

So domestic spying - without a court order - is "constitutional" in your mind? Please. Not even you believe that. Nice try though. Thanks for playing.

We have a process of determining constitutionality.

 

[P@triot]

Come on C_Clayton_Jones - tell us again how we're operating under Constitutional government you jack-ass. I mean, we haven't been for roughly 150 years now, but one needs to be educated to realize that. So none of us expect you to understand.

Operation CHAOS or Operation MHCHAOS was the code name for an American domestic espionage project conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency. A department within the CIA was established in 1967 on orders from President of the United States Lyndon B. Johnson and later expanded under President Richard Nixon. The operation was launched under Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Richard Helms, by chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton, and headed by Richard Ober. The program's goal was to unmask possible foreign influences on the student antiwar movement.

Operation CHAOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are of course operating under a constitutional government. You just don't like the outcome.

So domestic spying - without a court order - is "constitutional" in your mind? Please. Not even you believe that. Nice try though. Thanks for playing.

We have a process of determining constitutionality.

What a stupid and childish response. Your refusal to answer is confirmation of what we all already know. We are not operating under constitutional government nor have we been for roughly 150 years now. It is not constitutional for the federal government to engage in domestic espionage without court orders.

 

[regent]

Come on C_Clayton_Jones - tell us again how we're operating under Constitutional government you jack-ass. I mean, we haven't been for roughly 150 years now, but one needs to be educated to realize that. So none of us expect you to understand.

Operation CHAOS or Operation MHCHAOS was the code name for an American domestic espionage project conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency. A department within the CIA was established in 1967 on orders from President of the United States Lyndon B. Johnson and later expanded under President Richard Nixon. The operation was launched under Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) Richard Helms, by chief of counter-intelligence, James Jesus Angleton, and headed by Richard Ober. The program's goal was to unmask possible foreign influences on the student antiwar movement.

Operation CHAOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We are of course operating under a constitutional government. You just don't like the outcome.

So domestic spying - without a court order - is "constitutional" in your mind? Please. Not even you believe that. Nice try though. Thanks for playing.

We have a process of determining constitutionality.

What a stupid and childish response. Your refusal to answer is confirmation of what we all already know. We are not operating under constitutional government nor have we been for roughly 150 years now. It is not constitutional for the federal government to engage in domestic espionage without court orders.

And if the Court orders and no one obeys the orders, then what?

 

[P@triot]

More indisputable proof that we are not operating under constitutional government. Only the Legislative branch can make laws. So how is it that 95% of our new laws were made by unelected bureaucrats in the Executive branch?

 

[P@triot]

This is outstanding work by Paul Ryan and the Republican-controlled Congress. Huge steps here in restoring Constitutional government and reining in the uncontrolled, run away executive branch.

• First, “A Better Way” proposes legislation that would expedite lawsuits brought by either or both chambers of Congress against the administration for failing to execute the law.

• A second proposal is aimed at reining in the hybrid “fourth branch” of government: federal agencies that function as quasi-independent executive, legislative, and judicial bodies. Ryan’s proposal would require courts to independently review an agency’s action (when it is challenged in an appropriate case or controversy) rather than defer to the agency’s judgment, and this would provide much needed oversight. Hopefully this reform also would encourage members of Congress to write clearer statutes and refrain from delegating wide-ranging authority to agencies like the Environmental Protection Agency and Federal Communications Commission.

• A third proposal found in “A Better Way” would strengthen the Anti-Deficiency Act, which makes it a crime for a federal employee to spend funds without congressional authorization. Currently, violations of the Anti-Deficiency Act are punishable by suspensions, fines, or imprisonment (although actual prosecutions are extremely rare).

3 Ways Paul Ryan Is Looking to Curb Executive Overreach

 

[P@triot]

We must restore Constitutional government...

I have a little message for you, Mr. President, regarding your REFUSAL to answer Benghazi questions - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

 

[P@triot]

Constitutional rights are not nuisances that the government must accommodate. Protecting these rights is the reason government exists.

 

[P@triot]

What a sad indictment on the current state of the U.S. The Constitution already protects and guarantees my religious freedoms. Why in the hell would I need additional laws for that? And if libtards won't obey the Constitution - what makes anyone think they will obey this law?

Religious Freedom Bill Creeps Forward in Congress