Watch McCain Veer to the Right

[PatekPhilippe]

Sarah Palin, had she been let loose, could have won the election for the Repub party, despite McCain's fuck ups.

Uhh, yeah. If you folks keep thinking that, you will find yourself out of power once again after the 2012 elections.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha...thanks for admitting The Barry is a "4 and out" Prez.

 

[uscitizen]

New polling shows John McCain may have a serious fight on his hands just to win the GOP nomination for Arizona Senator.

Look for McCain to make a point of veering hard right in the coming months so as to secure the nomination. His silly dance of moderation that he has been engaged in for years is not playing well to his own home crowd.

And also one must wonder how much influence Sarah Palin has had in the growing dissatisfaction Arizona conservatives have with Mr. McCain? My call - considerable.


Arizona Survey of 570 Likely Voters
November 18, 2009

Arizona Senate GOP Primary

John McCain
45%

J.D. Hayworth
43%

Chris Simcox
4%

Some other candidate
2%

Not sure
7%


Election 2010: Arizona Senate GOP Primary - Rasmussen Reports™

See what happens to those who talk bad about Palin?

Palin is DA Uber Fraulein!

 

[Navy1960]

First of all speaking as someone who will vote in this election, my feelings are that J.D. Hayworth has a good thing going with his radio show here and will more than likely keep it. While John McCain won't have much trouble winning another term here, I'm sure it will be his last one and even Mr. Hayworth understands thats. Should J.D. Hayworth decide to challenge John McCain, here generally the voters stick with the man in office unless he is an Evan Mecham type then if your familier with Arizona politics you will know what happened to him. The good thing that has happened recently here is that we have finally gotten rid of our worthless Gov. it's just too bad the rest of the nation has to suffer under her rule as Homeland Security Director. You have to ask youself, how a person that directed the state to be dead last in education, and 3rd in the nation with a budget crisis, and one of the worst with border issues to be homeland security director. We here in Arizona call that lowering your standards.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Will Palin support McCain or Hayworth? She's screwed either way.

 

[nodoginnafight]

I wish McCain would just retire. He's symptomatic of all that's wrong with the Republican party today, and I'd love to get to kick him once in the gonads, just once, for FUCKING UP HIS OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.

I have to agree with this one. The moderate, country-before-party John McCain of 2000 could have won in 2008. But he spent eight years kissing bush booty. Letting the radicals shove Palin down his throat was the last straw.

Play make believe all you want - he was polling much better BEFORE Palin.

 

[Sinatra]

I wish McCain would just retire. He's symptomatic of all that's wrong with the Republican party today, and I'd love to get to kick him once in the gonads, just once, for FUCKING UP HIS OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.

I have to agree with this one. The moderate, country-before-party John McCain of 2000 could have won in 2008. But he spent eight years kissing bush booty. Letting the radicals shove Palin down his throat was the last straw.

Play make believe all you want - he was polling much better BEFORE Palin.

NOPE - the McCain campaign was repeatedly polling behind Obama-Biden. Within days of the Palin announcement, the McCain numbers rose significantly. Then the economy worsened - McCain terribly mishandled his response to the economy, and the media, truly troubled by the positive Palin impact on the polls, went on an all-out slash and burn offensive to diminish Palin post-haste...and it worked.

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2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women
September 8, 2008 | 6:06 pm
Suddenly, it's Poll City around here today.

As The Ticket reported earlier, the new Gallup/USA Today poll found a significant post-convention bounce for the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket, a turnaround of 8 points to give the M-S ticket a 4-point lead over Barack Obama-Joe Biden.


But now this afternoon come two more national polls essentially confirming the same trends with some significant subterranean changes:

-- the ABC News/Washington Post national poll of registered voters, which shows Obama's 6-point August lead has evaporated to produce a 47-46 Obama-McCain statistical tie,

-- and a CNN/Opinion Research poll, which shows the race still tied at 48% apiece but McCain making significant gains in how voters view his handling of the economy, Iraq and healthcare.

The most surprising results -- and surely the most disturbing for the freshman Illinois senator's camp -- are the immense gains McCain has made among white women following the Republican National Convention and the well-received prime-time speech by Palin.

In barely three weeks since before the Democratic convention last month, that crucial group of female voters has moved from 50-42 in Obama's favor to 53-41 for McCain now.

That's a huge 20-point shift in almost as many days, no doubt attributed in large part to the addition of a woman to the Republican ticket, Alaskan Gov. Palin, for the first time in the party's 164-year history.

The same poll also revealed a large shift toward McCain in Midwest battleground states from a 19-point deficit to a 7-point edge. The same numbers also indicated Obama making little or no progress in the areas of having sufficient experience and wooing to his side former supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Obama still leads slightly among those who think he represents their values (48-44) and those who think he will bring change (51-39).

But McCain-Palin have pulled ahead among independents (50-43), among married women (48-44) and especially among white Catholics (59-36).

-- Andrew Malcolm


2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

 

[nodoginnafight]

Yeah, he got a post convention bounce - just like everyone. But the numbers started tanking the first time she opened her mouth, and continued into the cellar - well below his pre-Palin numbers.

Sorry, Just no arguing with the facts. No matter how much you want to.

 

[blastoff]

J.D. Hayworth would be a true consevative, not a wishy-washy RINO like Judas John McCain. Jump in the race, J.D., ask Sarah to come campaign with you, and adios Johnny.

 

[Sinatra]

Yeah, he got a post convention bounce - just like everyone. But the numbers started tanking the first time she opened her mouth, and continued into the cellar - well below his pre-Palin numbers.

Sorry, Just no arguing with the facts. No matter how much you want to.

I just gave you the facts.

You spun them to suit your own views.

No harm in that - your choice.

McCain trailed Obama pre-Palin.

McCain pulled ahead post-Palin.

The economic news worsened and McCain veered wildly with an incoherent campaign, and Palin did poorly on a couple interviews and the media set out to destroy her.

Obama won...

 

[nodoginnafight]

Yeah, he got a post convention bounce - just like everyone. But the numbers started tanking the first time she opened her mouth, and continued into the cellar - well below his pre-Palin numbers.

Sorry, Just no arguing with the facts. No matter how much you want to.

I just gave you the facts.

You spun them to suit your own views.

No harm in that - your choice.

McCain trailed Obama pre-Palin.

McCain pulled ahead post-Palin.

The economic news worsened and McCain veered wildly with an incoherent campaign, and Palin did poorly on a couple interviews and the media set out to destroy her.

Obama won...

I was the spinner? LOL.
She destroyed herself - AND McCAIN - "the media" just watched it happen.

 

[Sarah G]

New polling shows John McCain may have a serious fight on his hands just to win the GOP nomination for Arizona Senator.

Look for McCain to make a point of veering hard right in the coming months so as to secure the nomination. His silly dance of moderation that he has been engaged in for years is not playing well to his own home crowd.

And also one must wonder how much influence Sarah Palin has had in the growing dissatisfaction Arizona conservatives have with Mr. McCain? My call - considerable.


Arizona Survey of 570 Likely Voters
November 18, 2009

Arizona Senate GOP Primary

John McCain
45%

J.D. Hayworth
43%

Chris Simcox
4%

Some other candidate
2%

Not sure
7%


Election 2010: Arizona Senate GOP Primary - Rasmussen Reports™

Hayworth is a nutcase and a bully, I doubt Az will choose him over McCain. They will come to their senses.

2006 campaign

During the campaign, Hayworth was dogged by controversial affiliation with Jack Abramoff and over questions of propriety of payments to his wife from Hayworth's PAC (see above). In a leaked internal email from the National Republican Congressional Committee, G.O.P. spokesman Carl Forti suggested that Hayworth's defeat was caused by the "scandal factor".

J. D. Hayworth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I remembered he had something dogging him but I forgot exactly what it was besides the obvious. He is just a mean old nasty Repub..

 

[NYcarbineer]

I wish McCain would just retire. He's symptomatic of all that's wrong with the Republican party today, and I'd love to get to kick him once in the gonads, just once, for FUCKING UP HIS OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.

I have to agree with this one. The moderate, country-before-party John McCain of 2000 could have won in 2008. But he spent eight years kissing bush booty. Letting the radicals shove Palin down his throat was the last straw.

Play make believe all you want - he was polling much better BEFORE Palin.

NOPE - the McCain campaign was repeatedly polling behind Obama-Biden. Within days of the Palin announcement, the McCain numbers rose significantly. Then the economy worsened - McCain terribly mishandled his response to the economy, and the media, truly troubled by the positive Palin impact on the polls, went on an all-out slash and burn offensive to diminish Palin post-haste...and it worked.

___

2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women
September 8, 2008 | 6:06 pm
Suddenly, it's Poll City around here today.

As The Ticket reported earlier, the new Gallup/USA Today poll found a significant post-convention bounce for the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket, a turnaround of 8 points to give the M-S ticket a 4-point lead over Barack Obama-Joe Biden.


But now this afternoon come two more national polls essentially confirming the same trends with some significant subterranean changes:

-- the ABC News/Washington Post national poll of registered voters, which shows Obama's 6-point August lead has evaporated to produce a 47-46 Obama-McCain statistical tie,

-- and a CNN/Opinion Research poll, which shows the race still tied at 48% apiece but McCain making significant gains in how voters view his handling of the economy, Iraq and healthcare.

The most surprising results -- and surely the most disturbing for the freshman Illinois senator's camp -- are the immense gains McCain has made among white women following the Republican National Convention and the well-received prime-time speech by Palin.

In barely three weeks since before the Democratic convention last month, that crucial group of female voters has moved from 50-42 in Obama's favor to 53-41 for McCain now.

That's a huge 20-point shift in almost as many days, no doubt attributed in large part to the addition of a woman to the Republican ticket, Alaskan Gov. Palin, for the first time in the party's 164-year history.

The same poll also revealed a large shift toward McCain in Midwest battleground states from a 19-point deficit to a 7-point edge. The same numbers also indicated Obama making little or no progress in the areas of having sufficient experience and wooing to his side former supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Obama still leads slightly among those who think he represents their values (48-44) and those who think he will bring change (51-39).

But McCain-Palin have pulled ahead among independents (50-43), among married women (48-44) and especially among white Catholics (59-36).

-- Andrew Malcolm


2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

McCain lost the election by roughly the same margin that he was trailing by before Palin was announced.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Best case scenario would be if Sarah and the teabaggers scozzafava McCain,

and hoffman Hayworth.

 

[Sinatra]

I have to agree with this one. The moderate, country-before-party John McCain of 2000 could have won in 2008. But he spent eight years kissing bush booty. Letting the radicals shove Palin down his throat was the last straw.

Play make believe all you want - he was polling much better BEFORE Palin.[/QUOTE]


NOPE - the McCain campaign was repeatedly polling behind Obama-Biden. Within days of the Palin announcement, the McCain numbers rose significantly. Then the economy worsened - McCain terribly mishandled his response to the economy, and the media, truly troubled by the positive Palin impact on the polls, went on an all-out slash and burn offensive to diminish Palin post-haste...and it worked.

___

2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women
September 8, 2008 | 6:06 pm
Suddenly, it's Poll City around here today.

As The Ticket reported earlier, the new Gallup/USA Today poll found a significant post-convention bounce for the John McCain-Sarah Palin ticket, a turnaround of 8 points to give the M-S ticket a 4-point lead over Barack Obama-Joe Biden.


But now this afternoon come two more national polls essentially confirming the same trends with some significant subterranean changes:

-- the ABC News/Washington Post national poll of registered voters, which shows Obama's 6-point August lead has evaporated to produce a 47-46 Obama-McCain statistical tie,

-- and a CNN/Opinion Research poll, which shows the race still tied at 48% apiece but McCain making significant gains in how voters view his handling of the economy, Iraq and healthcare.

The most surprising results -- and surely the most disturbing for the freshman Illinois senator's camp -- are the immense gains McCain has made among white women following the Republican National Convention and the well-received prime-time speech by Palin.

In barely three weeks since before the Democratic convention last month, that crucial group of female voters has moved from 50-42 in Obama's favor to 53-41 for McCain now.

That's a huge 20-point shift in almost as many days, no doubt attributed in large part to the addition of a woman to the Republican ticket, Alaskan Gov. Palin, for the first time in the party's 164-year history.

The same poll also revealed a large shift toward McCain in Midwest battleground states from a 19-point deficit to a 7-point edge. The same numbers also indicated Obama making little or no progress in the areas of having sufficient experience and wooing to his side former supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Obama still leads slightly among those who think he represents their values (48-44) and those who think he will bring change (51-39).

But McCain-Palin have pulled ahead among independents (50-43), among married women (48-44) and especially among white Catholics (59-36).

-- Andrew Malcolm


2 new polls: Obama-McCain tied, but McCain-Palin surge among women | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

McCain lost the election by roughly the same margin that he was trailing by before Palin was announced.

You had just indicated he was "polling much better BEFORE Palin."

 

[nodoginnafight]

McCain lost the election by roughly the same margin that he was trailing by before Palin was announced.

You had just indicated he was "polling much better BEFORE Palin."

Actually that was MER - not NYcarbineer who (correctly) stated McCain was polling much better before Palin.

And just to keep the facts straight - he WAS polling better BEFORE he announced Palin.

On Aug. 28, 2008 - the day BEFORE he announced his decision to pick Palin, the RCP showed McCain trailing by 2.9
He eventually lost by 7.3

 

[KittenKoder]

While I'm no big fan of Hayworth, he'd be a marked improvement over McQuisling.

Hell, a dem who knew what a principle was would.

Or at least a Dem who know about money and understood where it comes from.

 

[nodoginnafight]

And by the time McCain lost economic credibility with the campaign "suspension" stunt, on September 24 - he had already lost all his convention bounce and was already trailing by more (3.5) than he was before announcing Palin (2.9).

Sure, you can try to spin it otherwise, but those nasty facts just keep getting in the way.

 

[NYcarbineer]

McCain lost the election by roughly the same margin that he was trailing by before Palin was announced.

You had just indicated he was "polling much better BEFORE Palin."

No I didn't say that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And by the time McCain lost economic credibility with the campaign "suspension" stunt, on September 24 - he had already lost all his convention bounce and was already trailing by more (3.5) than he was before announcing Palin (2.9).

Sure, you can try to spin it otherwise, but those nasty facts just keep getting in the way.

The stunt that Palin effusively praised him for.

 

[nodoginnafight]

And by the time McCain lost economic credibility with the campaign "suspension" stunt, on September 24 - he had already lost all his convention bounce and was already trailing by more (3.5) than he was before announcing Palin (2.9).

Sure, you can try to spin it otherwise, but those nasty facts just keep getting in the way.

The stunt that Palin effusively praised him for.

It was steadily downhill after that. But the notion that Palin helped him is just pure fantasy. The far right would LIKE to believe that pandering to them will cure all ills for the GOP, but in doing so the GOP loses the moderates.

If the GOP cannot win without moderates AND the far right, then they are in trouble. Because they can't figure out how to hold both.