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And by the time McCain lost economic credibility with the campaign "suspension" stunt, on September 24 - he had already lost all his convention bounce and was already trailing by more (3.5) than he was before announcing Palin (2.9).
Sure, you can try to spin it otherwise, but those nasty facts just keep getting in the way.
The stunt that Palin effusively praised him for.
It was steadily downhill after that. But the notion that Palin helped him is just pure fantasy. The far right would LIKE to believe that pandering to them will cure all ills for the GOP, but in doing so the GOP loses the moderates.
If the GOP cannot win without moderates AND the far right, then they are in trouble. Because they can't figure out how to hold both.
It was steadily downhill after that. But the notion that Palin helped him is just pure fantasy. The far right would LIKE to believe that pandering to them will cure all ills for the GOP, but in doing so the GOP loses the moderates.
If the GOP cannot win without moderates AND the far right, then they are in trouble. Because they can't figure out how to hold both.
The stunt that Palin effusively praised him for.
It was steadily downhill after that. But the notion that Palin helped him is just pure fantasy. The far right would LIKE to believe that pandering to them will cure all ills for the GOP, but in doing so the GOP loses the moderates.
If the GOP cannot win without moderates AND the far right, then they are in trouble. Because they can't figure out how to hold both.
It's funny how the Palin fans conveniently forget all the bullshit they spewed out after Palin was picked. Just randomly, shit like she was going to help McCain with the conservative base, she was going to help McCain with women, she was going to help McCain with the working class in the rust belt, blah blah.
It was all a pipe dream.
It was steadily downhill after that. But the notion that Palin helped him is just pure fantasy. The far right would LIKE to believe that pandering to them will cure all ills for the GOP, but in doing so the GOP loses the moderates.
If the GOP cannot win without moderates AND the far right, then they are in trouble. Because they can't figure out how to hold both.
Youre quite correct. No politician is going to win elections by pandering to the right. You see the right isnt a bunch of stupid brain dead morons. We know when someone is being geniune and someone is pandering. We want someone who is geniune. We are not going to vote someone who pretends to be right and has ever intention of not doing so when they get elected.
And thats our problem. We dont have any geniune right leadership.
New polling shows John McCain may have a serious fight on his hands just to win the GOP nomination for Arizona Senator.
Look for McCain to make a point of veering hard right in the coming months so as to secure the nomination. His silly dance of moderation that he has been engaged in for years is not playing well to his own home crowd.
And also one must wonder how much influence Sarah Palin has had in the growing dissatisfaction Arizona conservatives have with Mr. McCain? My call - considerable.
Arizona Survey of 570 Likely Voters
November 18, 2009
Arizona Senate GOP Primary
John McCain
45%
J.D. Hayworth
43%
Chris Simcox
4%
Some other candidate
2%
Not sure
7%
Election 2010: Arizona Senate GOP Primary - Rasmussen Reports
While I'm no big fan of Hayworth, he'd be a marked improvement over McQuisling.
Hell, a dem who knew what a principle was would.
While I'm no big fan of Hayworth, he'd be a marked improvement over McQuisling.
Hell, a dem who knew what a principle was would.
I think McCain will end up being safe - this last Senate campaign is his legacy run, and he is already playing Mr Conservative of late, so will pinch off just enough conservatives to get the nomination - but it will prove yet another wake up call for politicians who have strayed too far from basic conservative principles.
I like Hayworth, even though sometimes over the top. At the same time, I think you're right. McCain gets another term and that will probably be good for GOP and AZ.
Please, if he wouldnt move to the right for the Presidential eleciton, he sure as heck isnt going to for His Senate Seat.
Sarah Palin, had she been let loose, could have won the election for the Repub party, despite McCain's fuck ups.
Uhh, yeah. If you folks keep thinking that, you will find yourself out of power once again after the 2012 elections. Just look at the number of registered voters who feel she is not qualified to hold the office. At last check, I want to say that # was around 70%.
I wish McCain would just retire. He's symptomatic of all that's wrong with the Republican party today, and I'd love to get to kick him once in the gonads, just once, for FUCKING UP HIS OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.
I have to agree with this one. The moderate, country-before-party John McCain of 2000 could have won in 2008. But he spent eight years kissing bush booty. Letting the radicals shove Palin down his throat was the last straw.
Play make believe all you want - he was polling much better BEFORE Palin.
It was steadily downhill after that. But the notion that Palin helped him is just pure fantasy. The far right would LIKE to believe that pandering to them will cure all ills for the GOP, but in doing so the GOP loses the moderates.
If the GOP cannot win without moderates AND the far right, then they are in trouble. Because they can't figure out how to hold both.
Youre quite correct. No politician is going to win elections by pandering to the right. You see the right isnt a bunch of stupid brain dead morons. We know when someone is being geniune and someone is pandering. We want someone who is geniune. We are not going to vote someone who pretends to be right and has ever intention of not doing so when they get elected.
And thats our problem. We dont have any geniune right leadership.
I wish McCain would just retire. He's symptomatic of all that's wrong with the Republican party today, and I'd love to get to kick him once in the gonads, just once, for FUCKING UP HIS OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY.
I have to agree with this one. The moderate, country-before-party John McCain of 2000 could have won in 2008. But he spent eight years kissing bush booty. Letting the radicals shove Palin down his throat was the last straw.
Play make believe all you want - he was polling much better BEFORE Palin.
Oh, yeah. THAT was McCain's problem. He was too buddy-buddy with Bush.
Conservative is not "far right" - just as traditional liberal is not "far left".
America remains a right of center country, which bodes well for conservative Republicans in the coming elections.
Present polling indicates such trending.
It ist he far left of the Democrat Party such as Pelosi and Reid, that are doing longer-term damage to the brand name....
Conservative is not "far right" - just as traditional liberal is not "far left".
America remains a right of center country, which bodes well for conservative Republicans in the coming elections.
Present polling indicates such trending.
It ist he far left of the Democrat Party such as Pelosi and Reid, that are doing longer-term damage to the brand name....
Right of what center?
First of all speaking as someone who will vote in this election, my feelings are that J.D. Hayworth has a good thing going with his radio show here and will more than likely keep it. While John McCain won't have much trouble winning another term here, I'm sure it will be his last one and even Mr. Hayworth understands thats. Should J.D. Hayworth decide to challenge John McCain, here generally the voters stick with the man in office unless he is an Evan Mecham type then if your familier with Arizona politics you will know what happened to him. The good thing that has happened recently here is that we have finally gotten rid of our worthless Gov. it's just too bad the rest of the nation has to suffer under her rule as Homeland Security Director. You have to ask youself, how a person that directed the state to be dead last in education, and 3rd in the nation with a budget crisis, and one of the worst with border issues to be homeland security director. We here in Arizona call that lowering your standards.
Watch McCain Veer to the Right
First of all speaking as someone who will vote in this election, my feelings are that J.D. Hayworth has a good thing going with his radio show here and will more than likely keep it. While John McCain won't have much trouble winning another term here, I'm sure it will be his last one and even Mr. Hayworth understands thats. Should J.D. Hayworth decide to challenge John McCain, here generally the voters stick with the man in office unless he is an Evan Mecham type then if your familier with Arizona politics you will know what happened to him. The good thing that has happened recently here is that we have finally gotten rid of our worthless Gov. it's just too bad the rest of the nation has to suffer under her rule as Homeland Security Director. You have to ask youself, how a person that directed the state to be dead last in education, and 3rd in the nation with a budget crisis, and one of the worst with border issues to be homeland security director. We here in Arizona call that lowering your standards.
I think you're right unless the Obama administration pushes the amnesty issue with McCain's support.
