Hypothetically speaking, what if Don is prevented from being on the ballot in a yet to be determined number of states.........

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......but wins the POT nomination?

New Disqualification Clause Case Filed Against Trump In Michigan

A good government group spearheading a national effort to bar Donald Trump from the election next year moved to remove him from the ballot in Michigan, citing the Constitution’s Disqualification Clause.

It’s the first such action in a major swing state from a group with the know-how and resources to present a legitimate argument.

The petition, filed in Michigan’s Court of Claims, asks the court to make a finding that Trump’s efforts to reverse his loss in the 2020 election render him ineligible for office under the Disqualification Clause. The group is also asking the court to block Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D) from placing Trump the Republican primary ballot.

Free Speech for People, the non-profit which filed the suit, asked the Minnesota Supreme Court earlier this month to ban Trump from the ballot there as well.

It’s part of a national strategy to use the 14th Amendment’s Reconstruction-era ban on those who engaged in insurrection from holding office to block Trump from the 2024 ballot. Free Speech for People and CREW are, so far, the two main groups undertaking the effort. CREW filed suit in state court in Colorado this month seeking the same outcome there.

New Disqualification Clause Case Filed Against Trump In Michigan

To be honest, I had lost track of how many states have suits to remove the Orange fraud from the ballot. So I Googled it.

Six states facing push to keep Donald Trump off 2024 ballot


Despite what the headline says there are more than 6.

Perhaps the most salient question is what judicial body has jurisdiction over state ballots? Each state's Supreme Court or the SCOTUS. If the answer is the former, it's theoretically possible for Trump's name to be excluded from ballots in.......let's say a half dozen states.........but listed on the other 44. Obviously voters could write in his name but that does not address the complicated issue of his disqualification to be the prez in the aforementioned 6 states.

This..............

The Elections Clause is the primary source of constitutional authority to regulate elections for the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. The Clause directs and empowers states to determine the “Times, Places, and Manner” of congressional elections, subject to Congress’s authority to “make or alter” state regulations. It grants each level of government the authority to enact a complete code for such elections, including rules concerning public notices, voter registration, voter protection, fraud prevention, vote counting, and determination of election results. Whenever a state enacts a law relating to a congressional election, it is exercising power under the Elections Clause; states do not have any inherent authority to enact such measures.

Although the Elections Clause makes states primarily responsible for regulating congressional elections, it vests ultimate power in Congress. Congress may pass federal laws regulating congressional elections that automatically displace (“preempt”) any contrary state statutes, or enact its own regulations concerning those aspects of elections that states may not have addressed. The Framers of the Constitution were concerned that states might establish unfair election procedures or attempt to undermine the national government by refusing to hold elections for Congress. They empowered Congress to step in and regulate such elections as a self-defense mechanism.


.........gives Congress ultimate control over congressional elections but does not mention elections for the prez and VP.

Any thoughts?
 
If Trump meets the legal criteria to be on the ballot then it would be illegal to deprive the American voters from choosing him to be their President. Just because you don't like a candidate's ideology and love for America doesn't give you the right to force your displeasure on the rest of the nation.
 
If Trump meets the legal criteria to be on the ballot then it would be illegal to deprive the American voters from choosing him to be their President. Just because you don't like a candidate's ideology and love for America doesn't give you the right to force your displeasure on the rest of the nation.
Ideology has nothing to do with it. This is a legal question as to whether Clause 3 of the 14th A is applicable.
 
Of course, they're not. The D.C. Sewer hates him, so they're throwing all kinds of shit on the wall to see what sticks. Smoke, mirrors, and a dog-and-pony show.
This matter is going to be decided on the legal merits of whether the 14th A applies. Full stop.
 
Ideology has nothing to do with it. This is a legal question as to whether Clause 3 of the 14th A is applicable.
A Prog and his push on documentation that of course he does not follow for himself. You stole our wealth. And many of the people whose wealth were stolen took shit from their own also.
 
This matter is going to be decided on the legal merits of whether the 14th A applies. Full stop.
It will depend on who's in charge of the “legalities.” Dishonest courts, judges, and AGs will twist the rules to suit their personal ideologies, while honest folks will allow the American people to determine who their President is.
 
The only states that would get away with that are the blue states, which he wouldn’t win anyway.

If a swing state tried to get away with depriving their voters from selecting the man they want as president, there would be outrage. They’d never get away with it.
 
It will depend on who's in charge of the “legalities.” Dishonest courts, judges, and AGs will twist the rules to suit their personal ideologies, while honest folks will allow the American people to determine who their President is.
Sorry, I forgot any judge or jury that rules against Trump is by definition corrupt. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
 
......but wins the POT nomination?

New Disqualification Clause Case Filed Against Trump In Michigan

A good government group spearheading a national effort to bar Donald Trump from the election next year moved to remove him from the ballot in Michigan, citing the Constitution’s Disqualification Clause.

It’s the first such action in a major swing state from a group with the know-how and resources to present a legitimate argument.

The petition, filed in Michigan’s Court of Claims, asks the court to make a finding that Trump’s efforts to reverse his loss in the 2020 election render him ineligible for office under the Disqualification Clause. The group is also asking the court to block Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D) from placing Trump the Republican primary ballot.

Free Speech for People, the non-profit which filed the suit, asked the Minnesota Supreme Court earlier this month to ban Trump from the ballot there as well.

It’s part of a national strategy to use the 14th Amendment’s Reconstruction-era ban on those who engaged in insurrection from holding office to block Trump from the 2024 ballot. Free Speech for People and CREW are, so far, the two main groups undertaking the effort. CREW filed suit in state court in Colorado this month seeking the same outcome there.

New Disqualification Clause Case Filed Against Trump In Michigan

To be honest, I had lost track of how many states have suits to remove the Orange fraud from the ballot. So I Googled it.

Six states facing push to keep Donald Trump off 2024 ballot


Despite what the headline says there are more than 6.

Perhaps the most salient question is what judicial body has jurisdiction over state ballots? Each state's Supreme Court or the SCOTUS. If the answer is the former, it's theoretically possible for Trump's name to be excluded from ballots in.......let's say a half dozen states.........but listed on the other 44. Obviously voters could write in his name but that does not address the complicated issue of his disqualification to be the prez in the aforementioned 6 states.

This..............

The Elections Clause is the primary source of constitutional authority to regulate elections for the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate. The Clause directs and empowers states to determine the “Times, Places, and Manner” of congressional elections, subject to Congress’s authority to “make or alter” state regulations. It grants each level of government the authority to enact a complete code for such elections, including rules concerning public notices, voter registration, voter protection, fraud prevention, vote counting, and determination of election results. Whenever a state enacts a law relating to a congressional election, it is exercising power under the Elections Clause; states do not have any inherent authority to enact such measures.

Although the Elections Clause makes states primarily responsible for regulating congressional elections, it vests ultimate power in Congress. Congress may pass federal laws regulating congressional elections that automatically displace (“preempt”) any contrary state statutes, or enact its own regulations concerning those aspects of elections that states may not have addressed. The Framers of the Constitution were concerned that states might establish unfair election procedures or attempt to undermine the national government by refusing to hold elections for Congress. They empowered Congress to step in and regulate such elections as a self-defense mechanism.


.........gives Congress ultimate control over congressional elections but does not mention elections for the prez and VP.

Any thoughts?
You're scared, lol.
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The only states that would get away with that are the blue states, which he wouldn’t win anyway.

If a swing state tried to get away with depriving their voters from selecting the man they want as president, there would be outrage. They’d never get away with it.
The thing is, Marxists don't care what they people think. They would hijack Pennsylvania in a heartbeat.
 
The Soviet courts had a 100% conviction rate of dissidents. I guess they had really skillful lawyers.
Putting your paranoid false equivalence aside, this is the matter at hand.

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office​

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
 
The only states that would get away with that are the blue states, which he wouldn’t win anyway.

If a swing state tried to get away with depriving their voters from selecting the man they want as president, there would be outrage. They’d never get away with it.
Untrue since many states have made laws against felons from running for office.
 

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