Wasserman Scultz can't tell the Difference between being a Socialist and a Democrat!

[boedicca]

lol, Bernie the Socialist is beating Trump the new rightwing God by 20 points.

Maybe that explains the rightwing meltdown in this thread.

And Walker is beating Bernie by 5. So your point is?

So a socialist is about 1 point outside the margin of error against the great white hope of modern American conservatism?

lol, that makes it even funnier.

Your desperation is not attractive, bub.

 

[Pogo]

Okay.....I'm done here. We've truly entered an intellectual wasteland when the head of the Democrat Party cannot define what her Party stands for and no left leaning person on USMB can define the difference between the Democrat Party and Socialism.

If anyone every does attempt an answer can you tag me?

Thanks.

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

 

[peach174]

The above poster said earlier today that the power to discriminate and deny rights should be returned to the states;

that's a perfect example of what a perverse definition of 'freedom' the RWnuts have come up with.

Ah lying!

What WOULD you Communists do if you couldn't lie through your fucking teeth?

The poster I referred to said this earlier today:

"Discrimination laws should be up to the States to make them not the Feds."

NOW, you tell me how I was lying.

We were talking about the 1st amendment and freedom of religion.
You made it about race.

You made it about race by making your statement include race. If you did not mean to, you should admit you are an inarticulate idiot, and move on.

"Discrimination laws should be up to the States to make them not the Feds."
Do you see any word there that says race?
We were talking about religion.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Okay.....I'm done here. We've truly entered an intellectual wasteland when the head of the Democrat Party cannot define what her Party stands for and no left leaning person on USMB can define the difference between the Democrat Party and Socialism.

If anyone every does attempt an answer can you tag me?

Thanks.

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

 

[Pogo]

Okay.....I'm done here. We've truly entered an intellectual wasteland when the head of the Democrat Party cannot define what her Party stands for and no left leaning person on USMB can define the difference between the Democrat Party and Socialism.

If anyone every does attempt an answer can you tag me?

Thanks.

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Okay.....I'm done here. We've truly entered an intellectual wasteland when the head of the Democrat Party cannot define what her Party stands for and no left leaning person on USMB can define the difference between the Democrat Party and Socialism.

If anyone every does attempt an answer can you tag me?

Thanks.

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

No. It's a simple question that folks are obviously afraid to answer.

You ask any right leaning person on this message board to define their political beliefs, they will do so in a moment. No big deal.

Those on the left are terrified. Always have been. I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.

But look don't sweat it.... Debbie is exactly like everyone else on the left. I define it as moral cowardice....others may define it differently. But to not be able to articulate what you believe and contrast that with another political ideology is more than a little pathetic.

 

[Pogo]

Okay.....I'm done here. We've truly entered an intellectual wasteland when the head of the Democrat Party cannot define what her Party stands for and no left leaning person on USMB can define the difference between the Democrat Party and Socialism.

If anyone every does attempt an answer can you tag me?

Thanks.

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

No. It's a simple question that folks are obviously afraid to answer.

You ask any right leaning person on this message board to define their political beliefs, they will do so in a moment. No big deal.

Those on the left are terrified. Always have been. I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.

But look don't sweat it.... Debbie is exactly like everyone else on the left. I define it as moral cowardice....others may define it differently. But to not be able to articulate what you believe and contrast that with another political ideology is more than a little pathetic.

Nobody asked for anybody's "political beliefs". The purported question was 'what's the difference between Democrats and Socialists' -- which is not only an abstract but apples versus oranges. As someone else put it, what's the difference between a ladder and a pineapple?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Okay.....I'm done here. We've truly entered an intellectual wasteland when the head of the Democrat Party cannot define what her Party stands for and no left leaning person on USMB can define the difference between the Democrat Party and Socialism.

If anyone every does attempt an answer can you tag me?

Thanks.

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

No. It's a simple question that folks are obviously afraid to answer.

You ask any right leaning person on this message board to define their political beliefs, they will do so in a moment. No big deal.

Those on the left are terrified. Always have been. I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.

But look don't sweat it.... Debbie is exactly like everyone else on the left. I define it as moral cowardice....others may define it differently. But to not be able to articulate what you believe and contrast that with another political ideology is more than a little pathetic.

Nobody asked for anybody's "political beliefs". The purported question was 'what's the difference between Democrats and Socialists' -- which is not only an abstract but apples versus oranges. As someone else put it, what's the difference between a ladder and a pineapple?

Okay....whatever.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's pretty clear that the question will soon be "what's the difference between a social democrat and a socialist"?

The progressives are essentially social democrats, looking to countries like Sweden & Germany as role models, so their task is to draw a distinct line between that and a more pure socialism. That can probably be done.

The Democrats have moved left, the Republicans have moved right, and the rest of us are standing in the gaping hole.

.

Republicans have moved right? I don't think so. They've moved way left and the left is in socialist territory, there's no longer any fiscal or social conservative Democrats.

 

[Iceweasel]

Okay.....I'm done here. We've truly entered an intellectual wasteland when the head of the Democrat Party cannot define what her Party stands for and no left leaning person on USMB can define the difference between the Democrat Party and Socialism.

If anyone every does attempt an answer can you tag me?

Thanks.

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

No. It's a simple question that folks are obviously afraid to answer.

You ask any right leaning person on this message board to define their political beliefs, they will do so in a moment. No big deal.

Those on the left are terrified. Always have been. I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.

But look don't sweat it.... Debbie is exactly like everyone else on the left. I define it as moral cowardice....others may define it differently. But to not be able to articulate what you believe and contrast that with another political ideology is more than a little pathetic.

Nobody asked for anybody's "political beliefs". The purported question was 'what's the difference between Democrats and Socialists' -- which is not only an abstract but apples versus oranges. As someone else put it, what's the difference between a ladder and a pineapple?

It's easy as hell to define the difference between apples and oranges. Dims/socialists, obviously there's a bit of a struggle for an answer there.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Since the Democrat folks here are too cowardly to articulate what they believe I will for them.

The Democrat Party today is philosophically attached to the Western European Socialist model. The reason: It provides more cover than the old Soviet system. Basically you cripple business in an ocean of regulation and utterly control it behind the scenes via regulation versus directly stealing the means of production.

When business fails you blame business versus Government. Neat....right?

The other agenda is "social justice," which means stealing from one group to buy votes with another group, with the Government of course always getting to decide who the winners and losers are.

I think that sums it up.

 

[Pogo]

You can't even get the name of the organization right so.....

The question wasn't put to us here. It was put on the boob tube by a talking head who doesn't allow answers. In which case it doesn't matter who he pretends to ask.

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

No. It's a simple question that folks are obviously afraid to answer.

You ask any right leaning person on this message board to define their political beliefs, they will do so in a moment. No big deal.

Those on the left are terrified. Always have been. I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.

But look don't sweat it.... Debbie is exactly like everyone else on the left. I define it as moral cowardice....others may define it differently. But to not be able to articulate what you believe and contrast that with another political ideology is more than a little pathetic.

Nobody asked for anybody's "political beliefs". The purported question was 'what's the difference between Democrats and Socialists' -- which is not only an abstract but apples versus oranges. As someone else put it, what's the difference between a ladder and a pineapple?

It's easy as hell to define the difference between apples and oranges. Dims/socialists, obviously there's a bit of a struggle for an answer there.

that's uh, not what "apples and oranges" means. It means attempting to compare two things that don't compare, like the ladder and the pineapple. It's a fallacious question. You can't measure how "apple" an orange is, because "apple" is not the nature of orange.

In this case "Socialist" is an advocate of a certain political philosophy, which as such means a specific set of ideals, whereas "Democrat" is a member of a political party. It's impossible to answer that without paving the term "Democrat" into a monolith. That's why you can't do it.

Get it now?

 

[Mac1958]

It's pretty clear that the question will soon be "what's the difference between a social democrat and a socialist"?

The progressives are essentially social democrats, looking to countries like Sweden & Germany as role models, so their task is to draw a distinct line between that and a more pure socialism. That can probably be done.

The Democrats have moved left, the Republicans have moved right, and the rest of us are standing in the gaping hole.

.

Republicans have moved right? I don't think so. They've moved way left and the left is in socialist territory, there's no longer any fiscal or social conservative Democrats.

Well, I guess that would depend on one's perspective.

From mine, both parties have gone straight up goofy on me.

.

 

[Iceweasel]

I am asking the question as have others in this thread. Why is the question so scary?

You like definitions....maybe you can help since NYC seems to be consumed by fear.

Thanks.

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

No. It's a simple question that folks are obviously afraid to answer.

You ask any right leaning person on this message board to define their political beliefs, they will do so in a moment. No big deal.

Those on the left are terrified. Always have been. I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.

But look don't sweat it.... Debbie is exactly like everyone else on the left. I define it as moral cowardice....others may define it differently. But to not be able to articulate what you believe and contrast that with another political ideology is more than a little pathetic.

Nobody asked for anybody's "political beliefs". The purported question was 'what's the difference between Democrats and Socialists' -- which is not only an abstract but apples versus oranges. As someone else put it, what's the difference between a ladder and a pineapple?

It's easy as hell to define the difference between apples and oranges. Dims/socialists, obviously there's a bit of a struggle for an answer there.

that's uh, not what "apples and oranges" means. It means attempting to compare two things that don't compare, like the ladder and the pineapple. It's a fallacious question. You can't measure how "apple" an orange is, because "apple" is not the nature of orange.

In this case "Socialist" is an advocate of a certain political philosophy, which as such means a specific set of ideals, whereas "Democrat" is a member of a political party. It's impossible to answer that without paving the term "Democrat" into a monolith. That's why you can't do it.

Get it now?

Golly thanks for the definition, that's how I understood it 50 years ago and used it now. If you are struggling for a difference between socialists and Democrats there really isn't much of one. That's the point.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's pretty clear that the question will soon be "what's the difference between a social democrat and a socialist"?

The progressives are essentially social democrats, looking to countries like Sweden & Germany as role models, so their task is to draw a distinct line between that and a more pure socialism. That can probably be done.

The Democrats have moved left, the Republicans have moved right, and the rest of us are standing in the gaping hole.

.

Republicans have moved right? I don't think so. They've moved way left and the left is in socialist territory, there's no longer any fiscal or social conservative Democrats.

Well, I guess that would depend on one's perspective.

From mine, both parties have gone straight up goofy on me.

.

I'm not a party loyalists but the analogy is goofy or insane for me.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

A dumb box of rocks running the party? Is anyone actually surprised?

 

[Rozman]

It's a fair question....
Why wouldn't she answer it?

 

[boedicca]

It's a fair question....
Why wouldn't she answer it?

Because she doesn't know.

 

[Pogo]

The question isn't "scary" -- it's a loaded apples/oranges question with no answer space. As we've already said here. The question itself is bullshit.

No. It's a simple question that folks are obviously afraid to answer.

You ask any right leaning person on this message board to define their political beliefs, they will do so in a moment. No big deal.

Those on the left are terrified. Always have been. I find it both amusing and sad at the same time.

But look don't sweat it.... Debbie is exactly like everyone else on the left. I define it as moral cowardice....others may define it differently. But to not be able to articulate what you believe and contrast that with another political ideology is more than a little pathetic.

Nobody asked for anybody's "political beliefs". The purported question was 'what's the difference between Democrats and Socialists' -- which is not only an abstract but apples versus oranges. As someone else put it, what's the difference between a ladder and a pineapple?

It's easy as hell to define the difference between apples and oranges. Dims/socialists, obviously there's a bit of a struggle for an answer there.

that's uh, not what "apples and oranges" means. It means attempting to compare two things that don't compare, like the ladder and the pineapple. It's a fallacious question. You can't measure how "apple" an orange is, because "apple" is not the nature of orange.

In this case "Socialist" is an advocate of a certain political philosophy, which as such means a specific set of ideals, whereas "Democrat" is a member of a political party. It's impossible to answer that without paving the term "Democrat" into a monolith. That's why you can't do it.

Get it now?

Golly thanks for the definition, that's how I understood it 50 years ago and used it now. If you are struggling for a difference between socialists and Democrats there really isn't much of one. That's the point.

So you're going with the monolith generalization, which means you don't know your terms.

It figures.

Again -- a philosophy is a set of ideals. A political party is an organization used to acquire power. The latter may use any number of the former. It's a bullshit question blurted out by a talking head hack who's not exactly known for deep thought.

What's the difference between a Presbyterian and a baseball player?

ehhh--- never mind, this is over your head.

 

[francoHFW]

It's a fair question....
Why wouldn't she answer it?

Of course it's not a fair question, unless you first define socialism which, thanks to the GOP, no one can define. Breaking for cold war dinosaur hater dupes, IT'S NOT COMMUNISM. The rest of the world has defined it as democratic since about 1935, when the rest of the world figured out what the USSR was. And Nazism for that matter, which since about 2005 became socialism for hater dupe know-nothings.