War tax!

So, in your OPINION, nation building IS part of what our government was actually set up to do?

Nice attempt to try and put words in my mouth.. may work among your retard friends... don't work on me


Just asking a question, because based on what I am seeing, nation building is PRECISELY what we tried and failed to do in Iraq and are trying and failing to do in Afghanistan. Can you agree with those (MY) words?

No.... it is not what we tried.. even if it gives you the premise needed for your agenda.... Maybe you should actually read the declarations and resolutions as to 'what we tried' and why we went in to battle Iraq in the first place.. and if you honestly think that is why we went into Afghanistan, you seriously need to seek professional help with dealing with reality
 
Nice attempt to try and put words in my mouth.. may work among your retard friends... don't work on me


Just asking a question, because based on what I am seeing, nation building is PRECISELY what we tried and failed to do in Iraq and are trying and failing to do in Afghanistan. Can you agree with those (MY) words?

No.... it is not what we tried.. even if it gives you the premise needed for your agenda.... Maybe you should actually read the declarations and resolutions as to 'what we tried' and why we went in to battle Iraq in the first place.. and if you honestly think that is why we went into Afghanistan, you seriously need to seek professional help with dealing with reality


Do you HONESTLY believe the resolutions, et al? WHY did we go into Iraq? For the oil. How much did we get? NONE. We went into Afghanistan on the premise of capturing OBL.
 
Just asking a question, because based on what I am seeing, nation building is PRECISELY what we tried and failed to do in Iraq and are trying and failing to do in Afghanistan. Can you agree with those (MY) words?

No.... it is not what we tried.. even if it gives you the premise needed for your agenda.... Maybe you should actually read the declarations and resolutions as to 'what we tried' and why we went in to battle Iraq in the first place.. and if you honestly think that is why we went into Afghanistan, you seriously need to seek professional help with dealing with reality


Do you HONESTLY believe the resolutions, et al? WHY did we go into Iraq? For the oil. How much did we get? NONE. We went into Afghanistan on the premise of capturing OBL.

Absolute leftist sloganeering bullshit
 
No.... it is not what we tried.. even if it gives you the premise needed for your agenda.... Maybe you should actually read the declarations and resolutions as to 'what we tried' and why we went in to battle Iraq in the first place.. and if you honestly think that is why we went into Afghanistan, you seriously need to seek professional help with dealing with reality


Do you HONESTLY believe the resolutions, et al? WHY did we go into Iraq? For the oil. How much did we get? NONE. We went into Afghanistan on the premise of capturing OBL.

Absolute leftist sloganeering bullshit

Wasn't it CHENEY who said the oil revenues would more than pay for this "war"? Was Cheney a leftist?
 
Socialism only begets more Socialism in the end. The other shoe hasn't dropped yet. These Socialists have done nothing but spend so far and haven't even begun to figure out how they're going to pay for it. That shoe is going to drop soon. Look for these Socialists to invent all kinds of new oppressive Taxes. They simply have no choice at this point. How can they possibly pay for their spending madness? The only way is to invent many new oppressive Taxes. Unfortunately this is what Americans have to look forward to. These people have destroyed many future generations. It's just so sad.
 
Socialism only begets more Socialism in the end. The other shoe hasn't dropped yet. These Socialists have done nothing but spend so far and haven't even begun to figure out how they're going to pay for it. That shoe is going to drop soon. Look for these Socialists to invent all kinds of new oppressive Taxes. They simply have no choice at this point. How can they possibly pay for their spending madness? The only way is to invent many new oppressive Taxes. Unfortunately this is what Americans have to look forward to. These people have destroyed many future generations. It's just so sad.

Not to worry, Libo. Palin/Beck or Beck/Palin will fix all of that in 2012!
 
I'm not sure that's gonna happen but they certainly couldn't be any worse than these incompetent Socialists. :(
 
Do you HONESTLY believe the resolutions, et al? WHY did we go into Iraq? For the oil. How much did we get? NONE. We went into Afghanistan on the premise of capturing OBL.

Absolute leftist sloganeering bullshit

Wasn't it CHENEY who said the oil revenues would more than pay for this "war"? Was Cheney a leftist?

More made up horseshit and shit taken out of context, and blown to mythical status among the ignorant slogan crowd that you very much seem a part of.... try understanding that when being talked about it was not that any revenues of oil to use would pay for anything for us... rather that when Iraq's government and infrastructure is completed that when IRAQ starts really receiving it's potential revenues from THEIR oil that much of their continued rebuilding as a country will come from said revenues

Oh... and try and get the people right who's statements you are trying to bastardize, warp, and take out of context

You have lost what little credibility you had
 
Absolute leftist sloganeering bullshit

Wasn't it CHENEY who said the oil revenues would more than pay for this "war"? Was Cheney a leftist?

More made up horseshit and shit taken out of context, and blown to mythical status among the ignorant slogan crowd that you very much seem a part of.... try understanding that when being talked about it was not that any revenues of oil to use would pay for anything for us... rather that when Iraq's government and infrastructure is completed that when IRAQ starts really receiving it's potential revenues from THEIR oil that much of their continued rebuilding as a country will come from said revenues

Oh... and try and get the people right who's statements you are trying to bastardize, warp, and take out of context

You have lost what little credibility you had

You're right. My bad. It was Rummie:
Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense at the time of the quote, on Oct. 2, 2003, stated in a Pentagon news conference:
"The bulk of the funds for Iraq's reconstruction will come from Iraqis -- from oil revenues, recovered assets, international trade, direct foreign investment -- as well as some contributions we've already received and hope to receive from the international community."

Oct. 2, 2003 - Donald Rumsfeld

Oh, and here's a nicety from the CBO:
The Congressional Budget Office stated in its Jan. 2004 report "Paying for Iraq's Reconstruction":
"One major policy question is how much of Iraq's reconstruction funding should be provided by the country itself. Budgets drawn up by Iraqi planners envision spending about 72 percent of revenues on the government's day-to-day operating expenses, 23 percent on reconstruction, and about 6 percent on foreign obligations. Overall, the amount that the Iraqi government can contribute to reconstruction will depend on how much revenue it receives from oil exports and how much debt and other foreign obligations it must pay."

Jan. 2004 - Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
Paying for Iraq's Reconstruction (1.2 MB)
 
Funny.. having Iraq use it's own oil revenues towards rebuilding much of what needs to be rebuilt is a lot different than 'using oil revenues to pay for the war'... but nice attempt at a twist

Oh.. and BTW.. I believe it was Wolfwitz that first stated that Iraq should hopefully be able to contribute to much of it's reconstruction from it's own oil revenues when the system is to the point of feasibility. That not everything will have to come from US tax dollars in terms of reconstruction. (rough jist of the statement)

Now granted.. there is still more money going from the US towards reconstruction than I would prefer... and I think I saw a figure last year sometime where at that time we had used 45-50BIL of our tax dollars towards reconstruction while Iraq was not properly or completely spending the money from their revenues that was set aside for reconstruction.. and that IS something that needs to be addressed

But again.... it is not like we went IN there for nation building or "war for oil" or any of the other slogan premises you have put forth
 
Wasn't it CHENEY who said the oil revenues would more than pay for this "war"? Was Cheney a leftist?

More made up horseshit and shit taken out of context, and blown to mythical status among the ignorant slogan crowd that you very much seem a part of.... try understanding that when being talked about it was not that any revenues of oil to use would pay for anything for us... rather that when Iraq's government and infrastructure is completed that when IRAQ starts really receiving it's potential revenues from THEIR oil that much of their continued rebuilding as a country will come from said revenues

Oh... and try and get the people right who's statements you are trying to bastardize, warp, and take out of context

You have lost what little credibility you had

You're right. My bad. It was Rummie:
Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense at the time of the quote, on Oct. 2, 2003, stated in a Pentagon news conference:
"The bulk of the funds for Iraq's reconstruction will come from Iraqis -- from oil revenues, recovered assets, international trade, direct foreign investment -- as well as some contributions we've already received and hope to receive from the international community."

Oct. 2, 2003 - Donald Rumsfeld
Oh, and here's a nicety from the CBO:
The Congressional Budget Office stated in its Jan. 2004 report "Paying for Iraq's Reconstruction":
"One major policy question is how much of Iraq's reconstruction funding should be provided by the country itself. Budgets drawn up by Iraqi planners envision spending about 72 percent of revenues on the government's day-to-day operating expenses, 23 percent on reconstruction, and about 6 percent on foreign obligations. Overall, the amount that the Iraqi government can contribute to reconstruction will depend on how much revenue it receives from oil exports and how much debt and other foreign obligations it must pay."

Jan. 2004 - Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
Paying for Iraq's Reconstruction (1.2 MB)

Those don't even remotely say what you construed them as saying.

I highlighted the operative phase...Iraq Reconstruction.

Iraqi oil revenues going toward Iraqi reconstruction!?!? Now that's insidiously evil. :eusa_eh:
 
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More made up horseshit and shit taken out of context, and blown to mythical status among the ignorant slogan crowd that you very much seem a part of.... try understanding that when being talked about it was not that any revenues of oil to use would pay for anything for us... rather that when Iraq's government and infrastructure is completed that when IRAQ starts really receiving it's potential revenues from THEIR oil that much of their continued rebuilding as a country will come from said revenues

Oh... and try and get the people right who's statements you are trying to bastardize, warp, and take out of context

You have lost what little credibility you had

You're right. My bad. It was Rummie:
Oh, and here's a nicety from the CBO:
The Congressional Budget Office stated in its Jan. 2004 report "Paying for Iraq's Reconstruction":
"One major policy question is how much of Iraq's reconstruction funding should be provided by the country itself. Budgets drawn up by Iraqi planners envision spending about 72 percent of revenues on the government's day-to-day operating expenses, 23 percent on reconstruction, and about 6 percent on foreign obligations. Overall, the amount that the Iraqi government can contribute to reconstruction will depend on how much revenue it receives from oil exports and how much debt and other foreign obligations it must pay."

Jan. 2004 - Congressional Budget Office (CBO)
Paying for Iraq's Reconstruction (1.2 MB)

Those don't even remotely say what you construed them as saying.

I highlighted the operative phase...Iraq Reconstruction.

Iraqi oil revenues going toward Iraqi reconstruction!?!? Now that's insidiously evil. :eusa_eh:

Are you trying to say that none of the billions of dollars of US taxpayers have helped to fund Iraqi reconstruction? Come on, you are msarter than this...
 
You're right. My bad. It was Rummie:
Oh, and here's a nicety from the CBO:

Those don't even remotely say what you construed them as saying.

I highlighted the operative phase...Iraq Reconstruction.

Iraqi oil revenues going toward Iraqi reconstruction!?!? Now that's insidiously evil. :eusa_eh:

Are you trying to say that none of the billions of dollars of US taxpayers have helped to fund Iraqi reconstruction? Come on, you are msarter than this...


Did you read what you posted?

Overall, the amount that the Iraqi government can contribute to reconstruction will depend on how much revenue it receives from oil exports and how much debt and other foreign obligations it must pay.
 
Those don't even remotely say what you construed them as saying.

I highlighted the operative phase...Iraq Reconstruction.

Iraqi oil revenues going toward Iraqi reconstruction!?!? Now that's insidiously evil. :eusa_eh:

Are you trying to say that none of the billions of dollars of US taxpayers have helped to fund Iraqi reconstruction? Come on, you are msarter than this...


Did you read what you posted?

Overall, the amount that the Iraqi government can contribute to reconstruction will depend on how much revenue it receives from oil exports and how much debt and other foreign obligations it must pay.

"Bad typers UNTIE"!
Sorry for the typos....but you get the jist. WE, the US taxpayers have paid into Iraq to rebuld things we paid to destroy. The oil revenues were supposed to pay for these things.
 
Are you trying to say that none of the billions of dollars of US taxpayers have helped to fund Iraqi reconstruction? Come on, you are msarter than this...


Did you read what you posted?
Overall, the amount that the Iraqi government can contribute to reconstruction will depend on how much revenue it receives from oil exports and how much debt and other foreign obligations it must pay.

"Bad typers UNTIE"!
Sorry for the typos....but you get the jist. WE, the US taxpayers have paid into Iraq to rebuld things we paid to destroy. The oil revenues were supposed to pay for these things.


My bad, I wasn't commenting on the typo, I was asking if you read what you posted from the CBO.
 
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Yes the inept Socialists are going to have to invent all kinds of new taxes on the American People. They cannot possibly pay for their spending madness so get ready for those Potato Chip & Soda Taxes. Socialism only begets more Socialism. They've done all the spending but now it's time to figure out ways to pay for it. Americans better brace themselves for all kinds of new oppressive Taxes to be invented. The other shoe hasn't dropped yet but it's about to. These inept Socialists really have sunk many generations to come. How sad.

As a smoker who has been taxed beyond belief, I WELCOME new taxes on sugary soda, fast food and potato chips. You assholes never cared before, so bend over, here it comes!

What are you talking about? I'm a non-smoker. I have always been opposed to additional taxes placed on smokers as well as the forcing of smokers out of restaurants and bars and now out of their own houses in many states. In fact, I have adamantly opposed these things.

These are just more steps to building the monster that government has become.

Immie
 
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Yes the inept Socialists are going to have to invent all kinds of new taxes on the American People. They cannot possibly pay for their spending madness so get ready for those Potato Chip & Soda Taxes. Socialism only begets more Socialism. They've done all the spending but now it's time to figure out ways to pay for it. Americans better brace themselves for all kinds of new oppressive Taxes to be invented. The other shoe hasn't dropped yet but it's about to. These inept Socialists really have sunk many generations to come. How sad.

As a smoker who has been taxed beyond belief, I WELCOME new taxes on sugary soda, fast food and potato chips. You assholes never cared before, so bend over, here it comes!


You are a smoker??? Get ready you are really gonna have to bend over and take it, those taxes are gonna go through the roof. Obama can afford his cigs, I don't know that you will be able to though.
 

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