Zone1 Please Keep Dr. Kings Name Out of Your Mouth

[Woodznutz]

You complain that 63% of Black Americans do not work full time and that 33% of them are convicted felons and that they have a 72% illegitimacy rate. But you fail to mention that there are not enough gainful employment jobs available so what do you expect for them to do during working hours (other than crime) and during their free time (other than making babies)? Are they supposed to sit under fruit trees masturbating all day long … waiting for food or money to drop from the branches?

Lots of jobs out there.

 

[Woodznutz]

Apparently they didn't because before he was murdered King said this:



It's time to stop pretending all racism disappeared once the Civil Rights Act was passed.

News flash, it's now 2024, not 1967.

 

[Invisibleflash]

On another MLK Day we again see the distortion of his message by those who want to maintain the very thing he was fighting against.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. fought against white racism. When he made his famous speech in 1963, he said that he wanted his kids to live in a world without white racism. Almost every word Dr. King spoke was in opposition to that same racism. Some Americans need to learn that he was asking whites to stop being racists and that whites start looking at blacks not for the color of our skin but that WHITES begin looking at us for the content of our character. He was not asking blacks to ignore white racism while lying to themselves about being colorblind. His dream was about the end of white racism.

King informed white society of our responsibility to abide by just laws and to disobey or reject unjust ones. None of that involves being quiet or not talking about race, thinking that will make the problem disappear. Indeed,we are to continue taking direct action against unjust laws and policies. Americans on the right love to bring up his philosophy of nonviolence when blacks start speaking in harsh tones. King did advocate nonviolence, but he did not support shut up and take it. His nonviolence plan was about direct action and confrontation. Dr. King’s nonviolence campaign consisted of six steps:

STEP ONE: INFORMATION GATHERING.
STEP TWO: EDUCATE OTHERS.
STEP THREE: PERSONAL COMMITMENT.
STEP FOUR: NEGOTIATIONS.
STEP FIVE: DIRECT ACTION.
STEP SIX: RECONCILIATION.

Martin Luther King Jr,, Six Steps for Nonviolent Direct Action,

https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/sites/mlk/files/lessonactivities/six_steps_for_nonviolent_direct_action_2.pdf

None of this involves ignoring the problem, not talking about race, creating false equivalences to provide plausible deniability, or whatever else we see from the right wing whites in this forum.

For those who want to turn Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. into a right-wing house negro, that’s the wrong answer. If anyone today believes that if King were living, he would denounce blacks who hold whites who still practice racism accountable, you are sorely mistaken. If you think King would have sat quietly as young, unarmed blacks are getting murdered by police or that he would not have supported the Black Lives Matter movement, his words speak for themselves:

Where do we go from here? First, we must massively assert our dignity and worth. We must stand up amid a system that still oppresses us and develop an unassailable and majestic sense of values. We must no longer be ashamed of being black.

To offset this cultural homicide, the Negro must rise up with an affirmation of his own Olympian manhood. Any movement for the Negro’s freedom that overlooks this necessity is only waiting to be buried. As long as the mind is enslaved, the body can never be free. Psychological freedom, a firm sense of self-esteem, is the most powerful weapon against the long night of physical slavery. No Lincolnian Emancipation Proclamation, no Johnsonian civil rights bill can totally bring this kind of freedom. The Negro will only be free when he reaches down to the inner depths of his own being and signs with the pen and ink of assertive manhood his own emancipation proclamation. And with a spirit straining toward true self-esteem, the Negro must boldly throw off the manacles of self-abnegation and say to himself and to the world, “I am somebody. I am a person. I am a man with dignity and honor. I have a rich and noble history, however painful and exploited that history has been. Yes, I was a slave through my foreparents, and now I’m not ashamed of that. I’m ashamed of the people who were so sinful to make me a slave.” Yes, yes, we must stand up and say, “I’m black, but I’m black and beautiful.” This, this self-affirmation is the black man’s need, made compelling by the white man’s crimes against him.

So on this MLK Day and forever more, if the only words you can recite from King is:

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

every time a black person stands up to hold American whites accountable for continuing racism, do us all a favor and "Pease keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth!"

No problem OP. Glad to.

 

[GLASNOST]

You complain that 63% of Black Americans do not work full time ..... But you fail to mention that there are not enough gainful employment jobs available .....

Lots of jobs out there.

U-huh. sure.

 

[IM2]

The White Man's Burden.

Your racism is the white mans burden.

 

[IM2]

No problem OP. Glad to.


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8 percent of blacks vote to destroy America.

 

[marvin martian]

On another MLK Day we again see the distortion of his message by those who want to maintain the very thing he was fighting against.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. fought against white racism. When he made his famous speech in 1963, he said that he wanted his kids to live in a world without white racism. Almost every word Dr. King spoke was in opposition to that same racism. Some Americans need to learn that he was asking whites to stop being racists and that whites start looking at blacks not for the color of our skin but that WHITES begin looking at us for the content of our character. He was not asking blacks to ignore white racism while lying to themselves about being colorblind. His dream was about the end of white racism.

King informed white society of our responsibility to abide by just laws and to disobey or reject unjust ones. None of that involves being quiet or not talking about race, thinking that will make the problem disappear. Indeed,we are to continue taking direct action against unjust laws and policies. Americans on the right love to bring up his philosophy of nonviolence when blacks start speaking in harsh tones. King did advocate nonviolence, but he did not support shut up and take it. His nonviolence plan was about direct action and confrontation. Dr. King’s nonviolence campaign consisted of six steps:

STEP ONE: INFORMATION GATHERING.
STEP TWO: EDUCATE OTHERS.
STEP THREE: PERSONAL COMMITMENT.
STEP FOUR: NEGOTIATIONS.
STEP FIVE: DIRECT ACTION.
STEP SIX: RECONCILIATION.

Martin Luther King Jr,, Six Steps for Nonviolent Direct Action,

https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/sites/mlk/files/lessonactivities/six_steps_for_nonviolent_direct_action_2.pdf

None of this involves ignoring the problem, not talking about race, creating false equivalences to provide plausible deniability, or whatever else we see from the right wing whites in this forum.

For those who want to turn Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. into a right-wing house negro, that’s the wrong answer. If anyone today believes that if King were living, he would denounce blacks who hold whites who still practice racism accountable, you are sorely mistaken. If you think King would have sat quietly as young, unarmed blacks are getting murdered by police or that he would not have supported the Black Lives Matter movement, his words speak for themselves:

Where do we go from here? First, we must massively assert our dignity and worth. We must stand up amid a system that still oppresses us and develop an unassailable and majestic sense of values. We must no longer be ashamed of being black.

To offset this cultural homicide, the Negro must rise up with an affirmation of his own Olympian manhood. Any movement for the Negro’s freedom that overlooks this necessity is only waiting to be buried. As long as the mind is enslaved, the body can never be free. Psychological freedom, a firm sense of self-esteem, is the most powerful weapon against the long night of physical slavery. No Lincolnian Emancipation Proclamation, no Johnsonian civil rights bill can totally bring this kind of freedom. The Negro will only be free when he reaches down to the inner depths of his own being and signs with the pen and ink of assertive manhood his own emancipation proclamation. And with a spirit straining toward true self-esteem, the Negro must boldly throw off the manacles of self-abnegation and say to himself and to the world, “I am somebody. I am a person. I am a man with dignity and honor. I have a rich and noble history, however painful and exploited that history has been. Yes, I was a slave through my foreparents, and now I’m not ashamed of that. I’m ashamed of the people who were so sinful to make me a slave.” Yes, yes, we must stand up and say, “I’m black, but I’m black and beautiful.” This, this self-affirmation is the black man’s need, made compelling by the white man’s crimes against him.

So on this MLK Day and forever more, if the only words you can recite from King is:

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

every time a black person stands up to hold American whites accountable for continuing racism, do us all a favor and "Pease keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth!"

I'll bet you LOVED the FBI's tweet about King:

 

[IM2]

Blacks turned their backs on MLK when they embraced BLM & Pregnant women beater and general scum bucket George Floyd..

What do we want .. Dead Cops

When do we want it. .. Now … (BLM)

Recall MLK promoted peaceful protest not arson, looting, rapes, mayhem and murder.
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Aanother white dude who knows nothing about King.

Over 90 percent of the Floyd protests were non viollent. The violence in those that were was instigated by people not associated with BLM. Just like King advocated pesaceful protests but was murdered violently by a white man, the Floyd protests were sabotaged by white racists that instigated violence and other white racists like you blamed BLM.

But King said this about riots:

“Now I wanted to say something about the fact that we have lived over these last two or three summers with agony and we have seen our cities going up in flames. And I would be the first to say that I am still committed to militant, powerful, massive, non¬-violence as the most potent weapon in grappling with the problem from a direct action point of view. I’m absolutely convinced that a riot merely intensifies the fears of the white community while relieving the guilt. And I feel that we must always work with an effective, powerful weapon and method that brings about tangible results. But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time,condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society.These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segment of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.”

So like I said:

So on this MLK Day and forever more, if the only words you can recite from King is:

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

every time a black person stands up to hold American whites accountable for continuing racism, do us all a favor and "Pease keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth!"

 

[BackAgain]

Say it loud!

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Say it! Speak his name!

 

[Meister]

This thread really surprises me, IM2. You usually don't have nice things to say about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
What changed?

 

[BackAgain]

“It is always the right time to do the right thing.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

I ask God to grant racists like im.2 the wisdom to recognize the above words of Martin Luther King, grasp their wisdom and their truth and to start applying that to his every day life.

 

[IM2]

This thread really surprises me, IM2. You usually don't have nice things to say about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
What changed?

I have had plenty of nice things to say about King you lying sack. What I don't do is use one sentence he spoke against blacks who point out continuing racism by whites to gaslight people.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Aanother white dude who knows nothing about King.

Over 90 percent of the Floyd protests were non viollent. The violence in those that were was instigated by people not associated with BLM. Just like King advocated pesaceful protests but was murdered violently by a white man, the Floyd protests were sabotaged by white racists that instigated violence and other white racists like you blamed BLM.

But King said this about riots:

“Now I wanted to say something about the fact that we have lived over these last two or three summers with agony and we have seen our cities going up in flames. And I would be the first to say that I am still committed to militant, powerful, massive, non¬-violence as the most potent weapon in grappling with the problem from a direct action point of view. I’m absolutely convinced that a riot merely intensifies the fears of the white community while relieving the guilt. And I feel that we must always work with an effective, powerful weapon and method that brings about tangible results. But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time,condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society.These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segment of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.”

So like I said:

So on this MLK Day and forever more, if the only words you can recite from King is:

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

every time a black person stands up to hold American whites accountable for continuing racism, do us all a favor and "Pease keep Dr. Kings name out of your mouth!"

Eh .. people like you inspire racism by not recognizing it within yourself or others you obviously agree with. So don’t expect to be taken seriously when you are the hypocrite and the problem.

 

[IM2]

Eh .. people like you inspire racism by not recognizing it within yourself or others you obviously agree with. So don’t expect to be taken seriously when you are the hypocrite and the problem.

Bullshit. I am no racist. You are the problem. Because you are a racist. You guys disaggree with me i based on what? Youe life experience as a black person? Something said by 1 black person that supports your bias? Let me post some wise words from another black USMB member to make you understand how dishonest your claim of black racism is.

“Blacks reacting to racism......is NOT racism. Besides, many whites have proven that they don’t even use the official dictionary definition of the term. What is GIVEN is the definition. The problem is that whites don’t like to use it because when applied properly, whites clearly stand out as the culprits.”

 

[IM2]

Let's take a look at this sentence.

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

Notice the words. Did King say his dream was for a nation where all children would not be judged by skin color? No. Only his. And why was that? Because the whites were not judged by the color of their skin. In the modern right wing victimhood narrative, whites are being judged by the color of their skin, but in reality they aren't. Whites who are racists are being judged by their behavior and every time this is done they try falling back on a line King spoke that they have taken out of context.

 

[marvin martian]

Let's take a look at this sentence.

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

Notice the words. Did King say his dream was for a nation where all children would not be judged by skin color? No. Only his. And why was that? Because the whites were not judged by the color of their skin. In the modern right wing victimhood narrative, whites are being judged by the color of their skin, but in reality they aren't. Whites who arre racists are being judged by their behavior and every time this is done they try falling back on a line King spoke that they have taken out of context.

All you do is judge people by the color of their skin.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Bullshit. I am no racist. You are the problem. Because you are a racist. You guys disaggree with me i based on what? Youe life experience as a black person? Something said by 1 black person that supports your bias? Let me post some wise words from another black USMB member to make you understand how dishonest your claim of black racism is.

“Blacks reacting to racism......is NOT racism. Besides, many whites have proven that they don’t even use the official dictionary definition of the term. What is GIVEN is the definition. The problem is that whites don’t like to use it because when applied properly, whites clearly stand out as the culprits.”

Mmm .. I wonder if you hate the white within yourself as the culprit or embrace it…

I’m Irish/English but I like to believe I’m more Irish just so I can pick on the English. .

 

[IM2]

Mmm .. I wonder if you hate the white within yourself as the culprit or embrace it…

I’m Irish/English but I like to believe I’m more Irish just so I can pick on the English. .

Stop wondering foolish things that don't apply to me or this topic.

 

[BackAgain]

Stop wondering foolish things that don't apply to me or this topic.

Lil’ im.2 likes to give orders and directions despite his lack of authority and credibility.

 

[Lisa558]

Lil’ im.2 likes to give orders and directions despite his lack of authority and credibility.

IM2 is going to die an angry old man, still waiting on reparations.