US to Veto Palestinian Bid for State

[jillian]

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration says it will veto any bid by the Palestinians to seek statehood recognition at the U.N. Security Council.

The administration had long said it opposed such a unilateral move by the Palestinians. The U.S. has been working to prevent a Palestinian resolution from coming before the council.

Until now, Washington had not explicitly said it would use its veto to prevent passage. On Thursday, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said that if the issue comes to a vote in the Security Council, the U.S. will veto it.

Israel opposes the statehood push as well.

Nuland says the U.S. view is that the Palestinian effort is misguided and that statehood should come only as a result of negotiations with Israel.

Palestinian Statehood: US Will Veto Palestinian Bid For Statehood At U.N. Security Council

 

[P F Tinmore]

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration says it will veto any bid by the Palestinians to seek statehood recognition at the U.N. Security Council.

The administration had long said it opposed such a unilateral move by the Palestinians. The U.S. has been working to prevent a Palestinian resolution from coming before the council.

Until now, Washington had not explicitly said it would use its veto to prevent passage. On Thursday, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said that if the issue comes to a vote in the Security Council, the U.S. will veto it.

Israel opposes the statehood push as well.

Nuland says the U.S. view is that the Palestinian effort is misguided and that statehood should come only as a result of negotiations with Israel.

Palestinian Statehood: US Will Veto Palestinian Bid For Statehood At U.N. Security Council

Good!

 

[Jroc]

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration says it will veto any bid by the Palestinians to seek statehood recognition at the U.N. Security Council.

The administration had long said it opposed such a unilateral move by the Palestinians. The U.S. has been working to prevent a Palestinian resolution from coming before the council.

Until now, Washington had not explicitly said it would use its veto to prevent passage. On Thursday, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said that if the issue comes to a vote in the Security Council, the U.S. will veto it.

Israel opposes the statehood push as well.

Nuland says the U.S. view is that the Palestinian effort is misguided and that statehood should come only as a result of negotiations with Israel.

Palestinian Statehood: US Will Veto Palestinian Bid For Statehood At U.N. Security Council

If they bring it up in the general assembly it will pass, although to be a full member it does have to pass though the security counsel. If it passes in the general assembly the Arabs will still use it against Israel.

 

[jillian]

it will go to the general assembly. and we know that they will be granted some type of status. but it won't be as a member nation. it will also be an embarrassment to abbas... which i'm ok with.

the arab world gets to shriek and moan and rail against israel and the u.s. The saudis get to "well, we tried to get the U.S. not to veto"... and mostly the pals get nothing they didn't already have...

 

[jillian]

bump

 

[Moonglow]

I thought Obama had turned his back on Israel, that is what the republicans have been lying about.

 

[jillian]

you never heard me say that... well, but then again, i'm not a neocon

that said, he's done some things which fed into that meme.

 

[Jroc]

you never heard me say that... well, but then again, i'm not a neocon

that said, he's done some things which fed into that meme.

I hope that wasn't the purpose of this thread my friend? You can ignore the facts all you like, it doesn't change them and the Jews in New York 9 know it. Just because you refuse to see it, and would rather cling to your ideology thats your business If Obama wins he won't need the Jewish and pro-Israel vote anymore

• September 2009: In his first address to the U.N. General Assembly, President Obama devoted five paragraphs to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, during which he declared (to loud applause) that "America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements." He went on to draw a connection between rocket attacks on Israeli civilians with living conditions in Gaza. There was not a single unconditional criticism of Palestinian terrorism.

• March 2010: During Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Israel, a Jerusalem municipal office announced plans for new construction in a part of Jerusalem. The president launched an unprecedented weeks-long offensive against Israel. Mr. Biden very publicly departed Israel.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton berated Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a now-infamous 45-minute phone call, telling him that Israel had "harmed the bilateral relationship." (The State Department triumphantly shared details of the call with the press.) The Israeli ambassador was dressed-down at the State Department, Mr. Obama's Middle East envoy canceled his trip to Israel, and the U.S. joined the European condemnation of Israel.

Moments after Mr. Biden concluded his visit to the West Bank, the Palestinian Authority held a ceremony to honor Dalal Mughrabi, who led one of the deadliest Palestinian terror attacks in history: the so-called Coastal Road Massacre that killed 38, including 13 children and an American. The Obama administration was silent. But that same day, on ABC, Mr. Axelrod called Israel's planned construction of apartments in its own capital an "insult" and an "affront" to the United States. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs went on Fox News to accuse Mr. Netanyahu of "weakening trust" between the two countries.

Ten days later, Mr. Netanyahu traveled to Washington to mend fences but was snubbed at a White House meeting with President Obama—no photo op, no joint statement, and he was sent out through a side door.

• April 2010: Mr. Netanyahu pulled out of the Obama-sponsored Washington summit on nuclear proliferation after it became clear that Turkey and Egypt intended to use the occasion to condemn the Israeli nuclear program, and Mr. Obama would not intervene.

• March 2011: Mr. Obama returned to his habit of urging Israelis to engage in self-reflection, inviting Jewish community leaders to the White House and instructing them to "search your souls" about Israel's dedication to peace.

• May 2011: The State Department issued a press release declaring that the department's No. 2 official, James Steinberg, would be visiting "Israel, Jerusalem, and the West Bank." In other words, Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Later in the month, only hours before Mr. Netanyahu departed from Israel to Washington, Mr. Obama delivered his Arab Spring speech, which focused on a demand that Israel return to its indefensible pre-1967 borders with land swaps.

 

[percysunshine]

"The Obama administration says ..."

The Obama administration has no credibility.

 

[jillian]

but bush/cheney... there are WMD's in Iraq.. did?

 

[jillian]

you never heard me say that... well, but then again, i'm not a neocon

that said, he's done some things which fed into that meme.

I hope that wasn't the purpose of this thread my friend? You can ignore the facts all you like, it doesn't change them and the Jews in New York 9 know it. Just because you refuse to see it, and would rather cling to your ideology thats your business If Obama wins he won't need the Jewish and pro-Israel vote anymore

• September 2009: In his first address to the U.N. General Assembly, President Obama devoted five paragraphs to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, during which he declared (to loud applause) that "America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements." He went on to draw a connection between rocket attacks on Israeli civilians with living conditions in Gaza. There was not a single unconditional criticism of Palestinian terrorism.

• March 2010: During Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Israel, a Jerusalem municipal office announced plans for new construction in a part of Jerusalem. The president launched an unprecedented weeks-long offensive against Israel. Mr. Biden very publicly departed Israel.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton berated Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a now-infamous 45-minute phone call, telling him that Israel had "harmed the bilateral relationship." (The State Department triumphantly shared details of the call with the press.) The Israeli ambassador was dressed-down at the State Department, Mr. Obama's Middle East envoy canceled his trip to Israel, and the U.S. joined the European condemnation of Israel.

Moments after Mr. Biden concluded his visit to the West Bank, the Palestinian Authority held a ceremony to honor Dalal Mughrabi, who led one of the deadliest Palestinian terror attacks in history: the so-called Coastal Road Massacre that killed 38, including 13 children and an American. The Obama administration was silent. But that same day, on ABC, Mr. Axelrod called Israel's planned construction of apartments in its own capital an "insult" and an "affront" to the United States. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs went on Fox News to accuse Mr. Netanyahu of "weakening trust" between the two countries.

Ten days later, Mr. Netanyahu traveled to Washington to mend fences but was snubbed at a White House meeting with President Obama—no photo op, no joint statement, and he was sent out through a side door.

• April 2010: Mr. Netanyahu pulled out of the Obama-sponsored Washington summit on nuclear proliferation after it became clear that Turkey and Egypt intended to use the occasion to condemn the Israeli nuclear program, and Mr. Obama would not intervene.

• March 2011: Mr. Obama returned to his habit of urging Israelis to engage in self-reflection, inviting Jewish community leaders to the White House and instructing them to "search your souls" about Israel's dedication to peace.

• May 2011: The State Department issued a press release declaring that the department's No. 2 official, James Steinberg, would be visiting "Israel, Jerusalem, and the West Bank." In other words, Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Later in the month, only hours before Mr. Netanyahu departed from Israel to Washington, Mr. Obama delivered his Arab Spring speech, which focused on a demand that Israel return to its indefensible pre-1967 borders with land swaps.

how about some links for those assertions IN ANOTHER THREAD... cause i'm not going to play with you trolling this one and making it an obama derangement thread. and then we can discuss what's reasonable, what isn't and what the neocon loons are absolutely lying about.

ok, bruthah?

 

[Jos]

That the US is setting itself up for total humiliation at the UN is further proof that Pro-Israel's control the US Government.

 

[Jroc]

you never heard me say that... well, but then again, i'm not a neocon

that said, he's done some things which fed into that meme.

I hope that wasn't the purpose of this thread my friend? You can ignore the facts all you like, it doesn't change them and the Jews in New York 9 know it. Just because you refuse to see it, and would rather cling to your ideology thats your business If Obama wins he won't need the Jewish and pro-Israel vote anymore

• September 2009: In his first address to the U.N. General Assembly, President Obama devoted five paragraphs to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, during which he declared (to loud applause) that "America does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements." He went on to draw a connection between rocket attacks on Israeli civilians with living conditions in Gaza. There was not a single unconditional criticism of Palestinian terrorism.

• March 2010: During Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Israel, a Jerusalem municipal office announced plans for new construction in a part of Jerusalem. The president launched an unprecedented weeks-long offensive against Israel. Mr. Biden very publicly departed Israel.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton berated Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on a now-infamous 45-minute phone call, telling him that Israel had "harmed the bilateral relationship." (The State Department triumphantly shared details of the call with the press.) The Israeli ambassador was dressed-down at the State Department, Mr. Obama's Middle East envoy canceled his trip to Israel, and the U.S. joined the European condemnation of Israel.

Moments after Mr. Biden concluded his visit to the West Bank, the Palestinian Authority held a ceremony to honor Dalal Mughrabi, who led one of the deadliest Palestinian terror attacks in history: the so-called Coastal Road Massacre that killed 38, including 13 children and an American. The Obama administration was silent. But that same day, on ABC, Mr. Axelrod called Israel's planned construction of apartments in its own capital an "insult" and an "affront" to the United States. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs went on Fox News to accuse Mr. Netanyahu of "weakening trust" between the two countries.

Ten days later, Mr. Netanyahu traveled to Washington to mend fences but was snubbed at a White House meeting with President Obama—no photo op, no joint statement, and he was sent out through a side door.

• April 2010: Mr. Netanyahu pulled out of the Obama-sponsored Washington summit on nuclear proliferation after it became clear that Turkey and Egypt intended to use the occasion to condemn the Israeli nuclear program, and Mr. Obama would not intervene.

• March 2011: Mr. Obama returned to his habit of urging Israelis to engage in self-reflection, inviting Jewish community leaders to the White House and instructing them to "search your souls" about Israel's dedication to peace.

• May 2011: The State Department issued a press release declaring that the department's No. 2 official, James Steinberg, would be visiting "Israel, Jerusalem, and the West Bank." In other words, Jerusalem is not part of Israel. Later in the month, only hours before Mr. Netanyahu departed from Israel to Washington, Mr. Obama delivered his Arab Spring speech, which focused on a demand that Israel return to its indefensible pre-1967 borders with land swaps.

how about some links for those assertions IN ANOTHER THREAD... cause i'm not going to play with you trolling this one and making it an obama derangement thread. and then we can discuss what's reasonable, what isn't and what the neocon loons are absolutely lying about.

ok, bruthah?

"Neocons" are pro Israel which is more than i can say about liberals

 

[JStone]

That the US is setting itself up for total humiliation at the UN is further proof that Pro-Israel's control the US Government.

You live in that third world shithole spain and you're worried about the US and Israel?

Maybe, Mossad is setting the US up, like when you said Mossad perpetrated 9/11, psycho slut
http://www.usmessageboard.com/4053557-post6.html

Pestilinians call for death of all Americans and Jews

 

[dilloduck]

That the US is setting itself up for total humiliation at the UN is further proof that Pro-Israel's control the US Government.

You live in that third world shithole spain and you're worried about the US and Israel?

Maybe, Mossad is setting the US up, like when you said Mossad perpetrated 9/11, psycho slut
http://www.usmessageboard.com/4053557-post6.html

Pestilinians call for death of all Americans and Jews
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7rls9eRKyo]Islam: Oh Allah - Kill all Jews and Americans! - YouTube[/ame]

They spy on us a lot. Maybe they are. Good point.

 

[Moonglow]

I hope that wasn't the purpose of this thread my friend? You can ignore the facts all you like, it doesn't change them and the Jews in New York 9 know it. Just because you refuse to see it, and would rather cling to your ideology thats your business If Obama wins he won't need the Jewish and pro-Israel vote anymore

how about some links for those assertions IN ANOTHER THREAD... cause i'm not going to play with you trolling this one and making it an obama derangement thread. and then we can discuss what's reasonable, what isn't and what the neocon loons are absolutely lying about.

ok, bruthah?

"Neocons" are pro Israel which is more than i can say about liberals

Israel is getting support from taxpayers, so that includes liberals monies also. No need to deep throat Israel over every issue they find they need to further their cause.

 

[JStone]

how about some links for those assertions IN ANOTHER THREAD... cause i'm not going to play with you trolling this one and making it an obama derangement thread. and then we can discuss what's reasonable, what isn't and what the neocon loons are absolutely lying about.

ok, bruthah?

"Neocons" are pro Israel which is more than i can say about liberals

Israel is getting support from taxpayers, so that includes liberals monies also. No need to deep throat Israel over every issue they find they need to further their cause.

What taxpayer support is Israel receiving since Israel receives no monetary aid, dink?

Most US foreign aid goes to the Rabs and Muzzies who did 9/11 and protected bin Laden It's All Your Money: Foreign Aid to Muslim/Arab nations - Fox News

 

[Moonglow]

"Neocons" are pro Israel which is more than i can say about liberals

Israel is getting support from taxpayers, so that includes liberals monies also. No need to deep throat Israel over every issue they find they need to further their cause.

What taxpayer support is Israel receiving since Israel receives no monetary aid, dink?

Most US foreign aid goes to the Rabs and Muzzies who did 9/11 and protected bin Laden It's All Your Money: Foreign Aid to Muslim/Arab nations - Fox News

soo military equipment is free, and does not cost anything to produce?

Since 1985, the United States has provided nearly $3 billion in grants
annually to Israel.

U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel | Public Intelligence

 

[JStone]

Israel is getting support from taxpayers, so that includes liberals monies also. No need to deep throat Israel over every issue they find they need to further their cause.

What taxpayer support is Israel receiving since Israel receives no monetary aid, dink?

Most US foreign aid goes to the Rabs and Muzzies who did 9/11 and protected bin Laden It's All Your Money: Foreign Aid to Muslim/Arab nations - Fox News

soo military equipment is free, and does not cost anything to produce?

Since 1985, the United States has provided nearly $3 billion in grants
annually to Israel.

Israel receives no monetary aid since Israel has a $200 billion GDP, the 40th largest economy in the world.

Israel receives only military hardware that remains in the US economy as defense contractors are the foundation of the US economy.

Israelis purchase upwards of $15 billion/yr in American products, making Israel among the US's largest export markets, while, poor shits like you buy from China.

Office of the United States Trade Representative...

U.S. goods exports [to Israel] in 2008 were $14.5 billion, up 11.3 percent from the previous year. Corresponding U.S. imports from Israel were $22.3 billion, up 7.4 percent. Israel is currently the 20th largest export market for U.S. goods.

Israel | Office of the United States Trade Representative

 

[Jos]

Zakheim was/is a dual Israeli/American citizen and an ordained rabbi Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it