US Oil and gasoline exports soar

Why did China give so much to the Clintons??... what did they want in return....

See how easy that is....


Now start thinking deeper beyond a slogan....

The oil companies are in business... when allowed to do more, their businesses can go better.... and if the republicans are running to increase opportunities that the oil companies can use.. then they will support that, naturally... but that does not mean that the decision is there just because someone is "in the back pocket"... the pursuit of all the options including more drilling and more production of oil is a logical approach to the multiple sides of the energy problem...

Just think... people who think they can get something more from an Obama term will donate more to him than to McCain... it is what it is.... if people think they can get handouts, and they are lazy rather than ambitious, then they might think of that $20 donation... if businesses will profit from the increased entitlements, they will donate to Obama as well... but of course we don't see you complaining there.... :rolleyes:

Obama raised $336 million dollars from 1.5 million contributors. His is the largest grassroots campaign in United States history.
 
Well... you put it too simply... because ROI is also speculation into the future, combining past statistics...

You have many problems with using ROI in this manner, just as you have many problems using ROI for any sort of performance measurement...

Net Income + Interest (decimal value of tax rate subtracted from 1) / Book value of Assets is not accurate in terms of true profit margin... HENCE WHY IT IS NOT CALLED PROFIT MARGIN.... ROI looks at a perceived benefit from monies invested.... as stated... you have to look at the big picture.... not just looking for the stock sticker stat that seems to fit your preconceived agenda

but nice try again

I'm not looking at a stock figure fact.... I am looking at FACT, and this is what they earn on their investment...yes it fluctuates with sales and operating expenses and asset values....but the fact of the matter is that this IS WHAT THEY EARN on their investment and the 5 year AVERAGE Return on Investment for exxon was 21 cents on the dollar.

yes, there are drawbacks as a manager having your review on roi vs profit, especially if there are expenses out of your control or even asset purchases out of your control, because this can affect your roi and leaves you with only one way to improve it, which would be to increase revenues....

and yes, profit margin is a completely DIFFERENT MEASURE....i never said it was the same, just that it doesn't reflect what they are earning on dollars put in, but on retail revenues/sales generated which is different!

and as stated, they are doing absolutely fantastic!!!! no tears shed here for them....

care
 
Reagan was not perfect.... but probably the best Prez since Ike, IMHO

Funny that he had to do a lot with government spending and influence thanks to the economic situation that he inherited from the worst president in the 2nd 1/2 of the 20th century... in terms of peacetime growth, foreign policy in dealing with the cold war and enemies, etc.. Reagan did a lot but had to spend a lot to do it... would i prefer a perfect scenario where we can have the perfect economic time and reduce the government and have the foreign situation stable as to not have to aettle terrorism or some other enemy??? Yep... not going to happen though....

And IMHO Obama;s extreme left policies will hurt much more on this country than McCain's more moderate ones... he's not as socially or fiscally conservative as I would want as an ideal.. but I will do whatever it takes to keep Obama out and show everyone the error of his socialist and marxist based ideals

More crap about "marxism." Do you think if you lie enough times that it will become the truth?
 
More crap about "marxism." Do you think if you lie enough times that it will become the truth?

No lies.... his proposals are based in wealth redistribution, socialist ideals, and marist concepts....

I suggest looking up the definitions and actuality of what those things are before you continue down your path on them... you seem to not like being called a socialist or marxist, when indeed every one of your statements shows that you line up with those ideals
 
No lies.... his proposals are based in wealth redistribution, socialist ideals, and marist concepts....

I suggest looking up the definitions and actuality of what those things are before you continue down your path on them... you seem to not like being called a socialist or marxist, when indeed every one of your statements shows that you line up with those ideals

Kirk is too young to be able to think anything though.
 
Someone do explain how corporate fascism is that much better than marxism????

Someone explain how profit is fascism

Companies are only OK if they don't make a profit or if they don't make a profit over a certain percent or a profit over a certain amount?

Nah.... it's so much easier for the libbies to throw out words like fascism for shock value... when they don't even realize that the government control systems, wealth redistribution, seizures, etc of the far left wing of the Dem party (that controls the Dem party at this point, unfortunately) are the ones more aligned with fascism... might want to do a little research into the practices of the german national socialist party (I'll give you a hint, that was the Nazis) and how most of it mirrors the barkings of ones such as Obama and Pelosi... and before this takes some lefty off on a rant, it does not mean that I think Obama wants to do the nasty extermination and other hideous atrocities that the Nazis did, but his policies of national socialism mirror exactly what the Nazis did to seize control over the populace with an iron grip
 
Someone explain how profit is fascism

Companies are only OK if they don't make a profit or if they don't make a profit over a certain percent or a profit over a certain amount?

Nah.... it's so much easier for the libbies to throw out words like fascism for shock value... when they don't even realize that the government control systems, wealth redistribution, seizures, etc of the far left wing of the Dem party (that controls the Dem party at this point, unfortunately) are the ones more aligned with fascism... might want to do a little research into the practices of the german national socialist party (I'll give you a hint, that was the Nazis) and how most of it mirrors the barkings of ones such as Obama and Pelosi... and before this takes some lefty off on a rant, it does not mean that I think Obama wants to do the nasty extermination and other hideous atrocities that the Nazis did, but his policies of national socialism mirror exactly what the Nazis did to seize control over the populace with an iron grip

Horseshit!

The two biggest problems this country faces are its dependence on foreign oil, and its debt. The debt was created by Reagan and Bush's tax cut and spend debacle, and our dependence on foreign oil has been worsened by Bush ignoring alternative energy and conservation for the last eight years. The Republicans have done more damage to this country than anyone.

Obama wants to encourage fuel conservation and alternative energy which are the long term solutions to the dependency problem. Democrats have never embraced the tax cut and spend stupidity, so they are the solution to the debt problem as well.
 
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Someone explain how profit is fascism

Companies are only OK if they don't make a profit or if they don't make a profit over a certain percent or a profit over a certain amount?

Nah.... it's so much easier for the libbies to throw out words like fascism for shock value... when they don't even realize that the government control systems, wealth redistribution, seizures, etc of the far left wing of the Dem party (that controls the Dem party at this point, unfortunately) are the ones more aligned with fascism... might want to do a little research into the practices of the german national socialist party (I'll give you a hint, that was the Nazis) and how most of it mirrors the barkings of ones such as Obama and Pelosi... and before this takes some lefty off on a rant, it does not mean that I think Obama wants to do the nasty extermination and other hideous atrocities that the Nazis did, but his policies of national socialism mirror exactly what the Nazis did to seize control over the populace with an iron grip


Look up Fascism douche bag.
 
Look up Fascism douche bag.

hey idiot

You still did not answer the question.... how is profit fascism


Main Entry:
fas·cism Listen to the pronunciation of fascism
Pronunciation:
\ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date:
1921

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality &#8212; J. W. Aldridge>


but nice try... keep sloganeering and sheepishly following Obama and his socialist 'change'
 
Horseshit!

The two biggest problems this country faces are its dependence on foreign oil, and its debt. The debt was created by Reagan and Bush's tax cut and spend debacle, and our dependence on foreign oil has been worsened by Bush ignoring alternative energy and conservation for the last eight years. The Republicans have done more damage to this country than anyone.

Obama wants to encourage fuel conservation and alternative energy which are the long term solutions to the dependency problem. Democrats have never embraced the tax cut and spend stupidity, so they are the solution to the debt problem as well.

You are completely laughable

I agree that debt and energy are 2 of the 3 biggest problems we face...

However

The debt, as shown, has grown every year under every president... and no, 90% of the debt is not attributed to Bush and Reagan.... this has already been shown to you in the actual numbers, but facts mean little compared to charts based off of a biased left-wing site

Short and long term solutions are needed for the energy problem... not just long term... you do not see me disagreeing with the notion that we need alternative sources, or disagreeing with the need for more efficient and economical energy sources and solutions.... but to continue that and get to that point, you also need to address the current and near term problems with our need for oil... and that is not going to be done with hypocritical and unreasonable mandates and the elimination of the liberties and freedoms we have in return for socialist control

And as a conservative... I do not embrace tax cuts and huge surges in spending... I support tax cuts and huge cuts in spending in areas that the government has no business being in (entitlements and handout programs)
 
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Or you could have the drones following such greats in national socialist politics..


cough HITLER cough

see... how easy that is.... can make really shocking statements too

you extreme leftists think that because one is republican or conservative, that we agree with every last thing Bush has done, has decided, or will do in the rest of his term....

the socialist tag is just stupid....sorta like your president.
 
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hey idiot

You still did not answer the question.... how is profit fascism


Main Entry:
fas·cism Listen to the pronunciation of fascism
Pronunciation:
\&#712;fa-&#716;shi-z&#601;m also &#712;fa-&#716;si-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date:
1921

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control <early instances of army fascism and brutality — J. W. Aldridge>


but nice try... keep sloganeering and sheepishly following Obama and his socialist 'change'


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That's all you get Dave. If you don't see the problem after all these discussions from not only me but other people, then I am not going to explain it again. We'll just agree that you are a dumb sonofabitch.

You need to learn about Carnege, JP Morgan and Rockafeller. The government had to deal with them and their monopolistic ways in the past. But guess what? The rich won. And they own this country. You aren't free. You work for them.
 
the socialist tag is just stupid....sorta like your president.

governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods (healthcare, etc) and monies (windfall profits tax, etc)... right in line with what Obama calls for, and right in line with socialism....

If the shoe fits... wear it
 
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That's all you get Dave. If you don't see the problem after all these discussions from not only me but other people, then I am not going to explain it again. We'll just agree that you are a dumb sonofabitch.

You need to learn about Carnege, JP Morgan and Rockafeller. The government had to deal with them and their monopolistic ways in the past. But guess what? The rich won. And they own this country. You aren't free. You work for them.

Listen you ignorant puke... try living in the real world...

Socialism and your calls for it are never going to work in a free society...

I never called for the allowance of monopolies... but nice try to add some more sloganeering and liberal distraction tactics

I work for myself... and I sell myself and my skills out to the highest bidder with the best situation for myself and my family... and when I want improvement, I do it myself through my training, my education, my practicing to improve my skillset, my leadership learning, etc.... but nice try... I don't work for anyone I do not choose to work for. I am owned by nobody....
 
governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods (healthcare, etc) and monies (windfall profits tax, etc)... right in line with what Obama calls for, and right in line with socialism....

If the shoe fits... wear it

The Corporations own you dave. Wake up.

Hey, did you see:

FBI was told to blame Anthrax scare on Al Qaeda by White House officials

FBI was told to blame Anthrax scare on Al Qaeda by White House officials


Imagine what else they lied to you about Dave?
 
I work for myself... and I sell myself and my skills out to the highest bidder with the best situation for myself and my family... and when I want improvement, I do it myself through my training, my education, my practicing to improve my skillset, my leadership learning, etc.... but nice try... I don't work for anyone I do not choose to work for. I am owned by nobody....

DD, while I completely understand your ire with our government, and given the fact that you are a small businessman, your annoyance that the bureaucrats are dipping into your pockets, (and they are) I think your anger is somewhat misdirected.

Sarharto, killed 700,000 so called communists in his nation.

STILL, the CIA tried to topple him.

Why?

They decided HE was a communist/socialist because he wouldn't sign on to them runing his nation (much like YOU won't sign on to you keeping YOUR hard earned dollars)

Pay attention to who wins the totalitaians games (that you currently call socialist) that suck the money out of your pocket.

It's not the collectivists, it's not the socialists, either. Those who ascribe to such political systems have NO power in this nation.

Or...

If you're just here to vent your (probably righteous) anger, and beat your chest at people who you label as socialists (who probably aren't) then do carry on.
 
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