US Military makes the US an empire.

Just so you know.....

Americas War Machine Death Toll overall since 1800........45,400,000
Liberals Death Toll on the Unborn Children since 2000.....148,900,000

It's nice to have your priorities straight

Well this is not an abortion thread (but you can expect that number, if its right, to increase with the GOP )
meaning I doubt both your numbers,

also I guess the people, men , women and children that we kill do not count??

Gosh! You mean people sometimes kill each other? We don't always sit in a circle holding hands and singing folk songs?

Maybe it's time you became aware of the fact that in the real world it sometimes comes down to kill or be killed. Most of us know on which side of that equation we prefer to be. Civilians hire the military to do the killing and dying for them but are equally responsible no matter what they prefer to think.
I do not want the military killing and dying for me. And at any rate, they don’t. They kill and die for the Oligarchy.








Take that shit to the conspiracy forum.
You should read a book so you don't appear so ignorant.

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:yes_text12::udaman::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

He will of course not read that book since pesky facts that dont go along with his warped views he ignores.LOL

same as how that other guy took him to school and he could not counter his facts,after you just took him to school here,wonder how long before he gets desperate knowing he is cornered and tells you the same thing to take it to the conspiracy forum.:haha:
 
Where are all these Military men and women stationed?

The U.S. operates in over 100 countries, including the U.K., Germany, Italy, Bahrain, Brazil, South Korea, Australia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Japan just to name a few.

U.S. Armed Forces Overview
-------------------------------------------------------------------

For the allegiances of other countries, namely Israel and SA we take out other countries, next will be Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon. If other countries do not bow down to the US we sanction them to near death and attack.

As long as the other countries behave they can do whatever they want, kill citizens, lock them up, we never do anything for humanitarian reasons, they can worship as they like, as long as they cater to the US and Israel.

This is why we have crumbling infrastructure and no money for healthcare as we have to keep the military alive and well, which the US owns the air, water and land all over the globe.

PS: they do not really care for the vets, they are no longer useful, they are used as a prop mainly and thank you for your service.

(in other words, we are Rome, before the fall) or England if you prefer.

IOW -- you don't really appreciate history. If we ARE in 100 countries, then it's by INVITATION and AGREEMENT.. NOT because we run those places. We are STUPIDLY giving them free defense services. And I don't like it either.. BUT -- that's nowhere NEAR Empire status.. Unless you know of land claims that I don't...
We are only there by invitation because we installed the folks that invited us courtesy of the CIA.

I would recommend reading this;

Confessions_of_An_Economic_Hitman_Cover.jpg


Or watching this;

The War On Democracy
The War On Democracy (2007) | WatchDocumentaries.com

excellent job of schooling EVERYONE here.
:yes_text12::udaman::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
If our reality show POTUS had a lick of sense he’d have started with infrastructure. Instead, we got another couple trillion in deficit spending on things we didn’t need.

Do Republicans care? Nope, they only care about their beloved tax cuts for multi-millionaires & Fortune 1000 corporations the booming economy be damned.

As Dirty Dick Cheney reminded us: Deficits don’t matter ... unless there’s a Dem in the White House.


Gosh! You mean people sometimes kill each other? We don't always sit in a circle holding hands and singing folk songs?

Maybe it's time you became aware of the fact that in the real world it sometimes comes down to kill or be killed. Most of us know on which side of that equation we prefer to be. Civilians hire the military to do the killing and dying for them but are equally responsible no matter what they prefer to think.[/QUOTE]
Do you think your opinion justifies the heinous warmongering the ruling class has imposed on the American people ?[/QUOTE]

I think you've swallowed far too much far left wing propaganda. I am an American. I cannot and will not be ruled. The only warmongering I know of is being done by radical Islam.
I understand that you would prefer to play the victim of some bogey-man "ruling class" because you think that doing so absolves you of any blame or responsibility for your own woes or tor those of anyone else. But that is really a pathetic and unrealistic attitude. I prefer to take control of my own life.
 
Just so you know.....

Americas War Machine Death Toll overall since 1800........45,400,000
Liberals Death Toll on the Unborn Children since 2000.....148,900,000

It's nice to have your priorities straight

Well this is not an abortion thread (but you can expect that number, if its right, to increase with the GOP )
meaning I doubt both your numbers,

also I guess the people, men , women and children that we kill do not count??

Gosh! You mean people sometimes kill each other? We don't always sit in a circle holding hands and singing folk songs?

Maybe it's time you became aware of the fact that in the real world it sometimes comes down to kill or be killed. Most of us know on which side of that equation we prefer to be. Civilians hire the military to do the killing and dying for them but are equally responsible no matter what they prefer to think.
I do not want the military killing and dying for me. And at any rate, they don’t. They kill and die for the Oligarchy.

Wrong. Unless you go somewhere where there is no military police or other protective services that's their job. The government controls them and you are supposed to control the government. If you don't do your part you have no one to blame but yourself. Denial doesn't change your irresponsibility.

you are in denial mode you cannot counter his facts.LOL

Only a like minded idiot would imagine he knows any facts.
 
If our reality show POTUS had a lick of sense he’d have started with infrastructure. Instead, we got another couple trillion in deficit spending on things we didn’t need.

Do Republicans care? Nope, they only care about their beloved tax cuts for multi-millionaires & Fortune 1000 corporations the booming economy be damned.

As Dirty Dick Cheney reminded us: Deficits don’t matter ... unless there’s a Dem in the White House.


Gosh! You mean people sometimes kill each other? We don't always sit in a circle holding hands and singing folk songs?

Maybe it's time you became aware of the fact that in the real world it sometimes comes down to kill or be killed. Most of us know on which side of that equation we prefer to be. Civilians hire the military to do the killing and dying for them but are equally responsible no matter what they prefer to think.
Do you think your opinion justifies the heinous warmongering the ruling class has imposed on the American people ?[/QUOTE]

I think you've swallowed far too much far left wing propaganda. I am an American. I cannot and will not be ruled. The only warmongering I know of is being done by radical Islam.
I understand that you would prefer to play the victim of some bogey-man "ruling class" because you think that doing so absolves you of any blame or responsibility for your own woes or tor those of anyone else. But that is really a pathetic and unrealistic attitude. I prefer to take control of my own life.[/QUOTE]

you are funny as hell to say there is no war mongongering going on by the US government in the middle east,you seriously need to stop embarassing yourself and quit while you can and embarass yourself any further.:iyfyus.jpg:
 
We have been an empire for quite some time.

As bad as that is, guess what it would be like to be at the other end of that stick?

It's not a binary choice between being the bully or the victim.
 
If our reality show POTUS had a lick of sense he’d have started with infrastructure. Instead, we got another couple trillion in deficit spending on things we didn’t need.

Do Republicans care? Nope, they only care about their beloved tax cuts for multi-millionaires & Fortune 1000 corporations the booming economy be damned.

As Dirty Dick Cheney reminded us: Deficits don’t matter ... unless there’s a Dem in the White House.


Gosh! You mean people sometimes kill each other? We don't always sit in a circle holding hands and singing folk songs?

Maybe it's time you became aware of the fact that in the real world it sometimes comes down to kill or be killed. Most of us know on which side of that equation we prefer to be. Civilians hire the military to do the killing and dying for them but are equally responsible no matter what they prefer to think.
Do you think your opinion justifies the heinous warmongering the ruling class has imposed on the American people ?

I think you've swallowed far too much far left wing propaganda. I am an American. I cannot and will not be ruled. The only warmongering I know of is being done by radical Islam.
I understand that you would prefer to play the victim of some bogey-man "ruling class" because you think that doing so absolves you of any blame or responsibility for your own woes or tor those of anyone else. But that is really a pathetic and unrealistic attitude. I prefer to take control of my own life.[/QUOTE]

you are funny as hell to say there is no war mongongering going on by the US government in the middle east,you seriously need to stop embarassing yourself and quit while you can and embarass yourself any further.:iyfyus.jpg:[/QUOTE]

Glade I could amuse you. If you should stop laughing long enough perhaps you can provide an example of this fantasy warmongering. Seems to me that the warmongering that led to fighting in the ME was done by the Islamics in NYC on 9/11.
 
As expected given the mental defectives here assembled, this thread has become 100% conspiracy forum nonsense. Won’t be long now before the chemtrail/fluoride/911insidejob/space visitors/Tom Brady as secret Russian spy fruit starts falling from the same Crazy Tree.
 
If our reality show POTUS had a lick of sense he’d have started with infrastructure. Instead, we got another couple trillion in deficit spending on things we didn’t need.

Do Republicans care? Nope, they only care about their beloved tax cuts for multi-millionaires & Fortune 1000 corporations the booming economy be damned.

As Dirty Dick Cheney reminded us: Deficits don’t matter ... unless there’s a Dem in the White House.


Gosh! You mean people sometimes kill each other? We don't always sit in a circle holding hands and singing folk songs?

Maybe it's time you became aware of the fact that in the real world it sometimes comes down to kill or be killed. Most of us know on which side of that equation we prefer to be. Civilians hire the military to do the killing and dying for them but are equally responsible no matter what they prefer to think.
Do you think your opinion justifies the heinous warmongering the ruling class has imposed on the American people ?[/QUOTE]

I think you've swallowed far too much far left wing propaganda. I am an American. I cannot and will not be ruled. The only warmongering I know of is being done by radical Islam.
I understand that you would prefer to play the victim of some bogey-man "ruling class" because you think that doing so absolves you of any blame or responsibility for your own woes or tor those of anyone else. But that is really a pathetic and unrealistic attitude. I prefer to take control of my own life.[/QUOTE]
That is hilarious. Everyone here who knows me, knows I am about as far from being a leftist as is possible.

You can’t control your life if the ruling class gets you killed.
 
As expected given the mental defectives here assembled, this thread has become 100% conspiracy forum nonsense. Won’t be long now before the chemtrail/fluoride/911insidejob/space visitors/Tom Brady as secret Russian spy fruit starts falling from the same Crazy Tree.
...but only to ignorant statists.
 
what this boils down to is that some believe The United States of America is the single most evil force in the world... Some with say it is because of cost and some will say it provokes but it all comes to they honestly dont like or trust the USA. If you feel this way then please have the courage of your convictions and move.
You move. You don't understand the principles this nation was founded on.

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Hey genius in 1776 it took months to get Europe. Isolation has NEVER worked. But it has done great for the homicidal tyrants

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We weren't an empire then.




And we aren’t now.
It is NOT isolation, it is NONINTERVENTION. Get it straight.

Why is it statists always resort to the use of the word isolation, to denigrate a policy of NOT killing and destroying?

Believing the US is not an empire, is an admission of ignorance. It may be willful due to a life time of brainwashing by the state.
Calling it something diffrent doesnt change the truth and that is isolationist

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If our reality show POTUS had a lick of sense he’d have started with infrastructure. Instead, we got another couple trillion in deficit spending on things we didn’t need.

Do Republicans care? Nope, they only care about their beloved tax cuts for multi-millionaires & Fortune 1000 corporations the booming economy be damned.

As Dirty Dick Cheney reminded us: Deficits don’t matter ... unless there’s a Dem in the White House.


Gosh! You mean people sometimes kill each other? We don't always sit in a circle holding hands and singing folk songs?

Maybe it's time you became aware of the fact that in the real world it sometimes comes down to kill or be killed. Most of us know on which side of that equation we prefer to be. Civilians hire the military to do the killing and dying for them but are equally responsible no matter what they prefer to think.
Do you think your opinion justifies the heinous warmongering the ruling class has imposed on the American people ?

I think you've swallowed far too much far left wing propaganda. I am an American. I cannot and will not be ruled. The only warmongering I know of is being done by radical Islam.
I understand that you would prefer to play the victim of some bogey-man "ruling class" because you think that doing so absolves you of any blame or responsibility for your own woes or tor those of anyone else. But that is really a pathetic and unrealistic attitude. I prefer to take control of my own life.[/QUOTE]
That is hilarious. Everyone here who knows me, knows I am about as far from being a leftist as is possible.

You can’t control your life if the ruling class gets you killed.[/QUOTE]

More pathetic whining by the snowflake who is just so so abused by his mythical ruling class. Woe is him! Woe is him!
 
My point was that the US government can't do to it's people what other countries can do to theirs. You wont necessarily see that on our own soil. The reasons behind regime changes have nothing to do with the people of that country. Pick a disenfranchised group that agrees with the business interests and back it. The people in the US are not about to be supportive of out and out saying something like........the market over there needs to let Nestle in. It's not going to happen. But, if you send in a bunch of human rights activists to support that disenfranchised group and send filmed interviews and "personal interest" stories of the group you want in power then you get the people to support it.

We have been screwing with Venezuela since before 2006 hard core. They aren't a threat.

Venezuela screwed itself up, it didn't need our help. They had plenty of other markets for their Oil. We didn't make them nationalize industries, or try end runs around their own Constitution.

The only thing that can really be "blamed" on us is our resurgent Oil industry, which lowered overall global crude prices.

Wanted to make them pay for nationalizing their industries. That's telling.

That's only fair. Nationalizing does imply paying. Confiscating implies taking.

If a US company invested in a company that was to be nationalized, they expect and should expect compensation.

Venezuela had no problem selling to China. Companies were compensated fairly up until 2008. Then Exxon and Conoco slammed Venezuela with lawsuits. Even so, none of that makes Venezuela a "national security threat". It doesn't rise to that level.

And Venezuela was rightly sued.

They are a threat because of their stated policies and viewpoints, and their destabilizing effect on the region.

If the US parks a CBG in the Med off of Spain or Italy, they look forward to the shore leaves, we do the same to Venezuela they will cry to the UN and anyone else that will listen.
That's the difference between a threat and not a threat.

Tears are not weapons. Stated policies and viewpoints are not weapons. It does not rise to the level of a "national threat". You don't have that. You have some pissed off corporations.
 
Venezuela had no problem selling to China. Companies were compensated fairly up until 2008. Then Exxon and Conoco slammed Venezuela with lawsuits. Even so, none of that makes Venezuela a "national security threat". It doesn't rise to that level.

But Venezuela IS a threat to tranquility and justice for millions of Venezuelans now living under a dictator...they don't count.
But then, the opposition refused to take to the streets early on while the Left was overwhelming in pushing it's agenda.

Exact same thing that's happening now in the US. Yep, laugh....but we all see what's coming....we're in denial.
The Left is always more powerful in demanding their way...by any means necessary.
Eventually they'll get what they demand here in the USA....same as they did in Venezuela.....due to apathy.

And yet, a dictatorship is a legitimate form of rule. We sure as hell wouldn't put up with that nonsense but my not liking it doesn't make it any less legitimate. There form of government and their policies are not a security threat. The selling point here is the exact same kind that was used during the cold war. It's the "spreading democracy" and "freedom" advertisement because saying we are going to war for Conoco is just not quite as appealing to the American public. Our foreign policy has not changed in well over a hundred years.
 
We have been an empire for quite some time.

As bad as that is, guess what it would be like to be at the other end of that stick?

It's not a binary choice between being the bully or the victim.

It shouldn't be a binary choice between being the bully or the victim.

Ahh... I think I misunderstood you. I took your post to be saying we've got to be a bully so that we don't become a victim. Re-reading, I'm thinking you meant that, however much some of us in the US might be frustrated with a government trying to run an empire, the people in the countries being dominated like it even less.
 
Where are all these Military men and women stationed?

The U.S. operates in over 100 countries, including the U.K., Germany, Italy, Bahrain, Brazil, South Korea, Australia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Japan just to name a few.

U.S. Armed Forces Overview
-------------------------------------------------------------------

For the allegiances of other countries, namely Israel and SA we take out other countries, next will be Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon. If other countries do not bow down to the US we sanction them to near death and attack.

As long as the other countries behave they can do whatever they want, kill citizens, lock them up, we never do anything for humanitarian reasons, they can worship as they like, as long as they cater to the US and Israel.

This is why we have crumbling infrastructure and no money for healthcare as we have to keep the military alive and well, which the US owns the air, water and land all over the globe.

PS: they do not really care for the vets, they are no longer useful, they are used as a prop mainly and thank you for your service.

(in other words, we are Rome, before the fall) or England if you prefer.

IOW -- you don't really appreciate history. If we ARE in 100 countries, then it's by INVITATION and AGREEMENT.. NOT because we run those places. We are STUPIDLY giving them free defense services. And I don't like it either.. BUT -- that's nowhere NEAR Empire status.. Unless you know of land claims that I don't...
We are only there by invitation because we installed the folks that invited us courtesy of the CIA.

I would recommend reading this;

Confessions_of_An_Economic_Hitman_Cover.jpg


Or watching this;

The War On Democracy
The War On Democracy (2007) | WatchDocumentaries.com

Oh.. Good story 'bro.. I'll read that right after I finish Noah Chomsky classics for the 3rd time.. :auiqs.jpg:

Who did our CIA install in Germany, Italy, Japan? How about South Korea or Greenland?

Now there IS the occasional occupation force. With a bunch of "installed Stooges".. But when they ask us to leave -- we generally don't poison them or resist.. How is that "an empire because of our military reach"?
 
Where are all these Military men and women stationed?

The U.S. operates in over 100 countries, including the U.K., Germany, Italy, Bahrain, Brazil, South Korea, Australia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Japan just to name a few.

U.S. Armed Forces Overview
-------------------------------------------------------------------

For the allegiances of other countries, namely Israel and SA we take out other countries, next will be Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon. If other countries do not bow down to the US we sanction them to near death and attack.

As long as the other countries behave they can do whatever they want, kill citizens, lock them up, we never do anything for humanitarian reasons, they can worship as they like, as long as they cater to the US and Israel.

This is why we have crumbling infrastructure and no money for healthcare as we have to keep the military alive and well, which the US owns the air, water and land all over the globe.

PS: they do not really care for the vets, they are no longer useful, they are used as a prop mainly and thank you for your service.

(in other words, we are Rome, before the fall) or England if you prefer.

IOW -- you don't really appreciate history. If we ARE in 100 countries, then it's by INVITATION and AGREEMENT.. NOT because we run those places. We are STUPIDLY giving them free defense services. And I don't like it either.. BUT -- that's nowhere NEAR Empire status.. Unless you know of land claims that I don't...
We are only there by invitation because we installed the folks that invited us courtesy of the CIA.

I would recommend reading this;

Confessions_of_An_Economic_Hitman_Cover.jpg


Or watching this;

The War On Democracy
The War On Democracy (2007) | WatchDocumentaries.com

There's a war on democracy!?!

Wow.... I sure hope they win. Where can I send a check?
 

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