Unequal distribution of wealth

[thereisnospoon]

I'm part Native American, are you going to offer me up a potion of your land? I didn't think so.

MoonDerp STOLE it from you...I think he should give it back.

/Tongue-in-cheek

I'm still waiting...

Yes and now half the tribes are building or have built casinos to enrich themselves.
So what....
This is the same crap as the blacks who buy into the reparations for slave descendants thing.
Oh like I am supposed to bend a knee and apologize for Indians who "lost" their land...
What the fuck do you people want anyway?..Look, if you want to make the world a better place, quit talking about how angry you are at the fucking Brits, French and Spaniards.
Otherwise I don't give a damn about your problems.

 

[tjvh]

MoonDerp STOLE it from you...I think he should give it back.

/Tongue-in-cheek

I'm still waiting...

Yes and now half the tribes are building or have built casinos to enrich themselves.
So what....
This is the same crap as the blacks who buy into the reparations for slave descendants thing.
Oh like I am supposed to bend a knee and apologize for Indians who "lost" their land...
What the fuck do you people want anyway?..Look, if you want to make the world a better place, quit talking about how angry you are at the fucking Brits, French and Spaniards.
Otherwise I don't give a damn about your problems.

Find one post I have EVER made about wanting anything other than lazy bums to get off their asses, I'm only part Indian... As I clearly stated before. The ONLY problem I have is the 50% milking off the other 50% who work in the private sector and pay Taxes, and their constant bitching because THEY ALWAYS WANT MORE from the Taxpayer's, but they NEVER want to contribute. You people...Indeed.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I'm still waiting...

Yes and now half the tribes are building or have built casinos to enrich themselves.
So what....
This is the same crap as the blacks who buy into the reparations for slave descendants thing.
Oh like I am supposed to bend a knee and apologize for Indians who "lost" their land...
What the fuck do you people want anyway?..Look, if you want to make the world a better place, quit talking about how angry you are at the fucking Brits, French and Spaniards.
Otherwise I don't give a damn about your problems.

Find one post I have EVER made about wanting anything other than lazy bums to get off their asses, I'm only part Indian... As I clearly stated before. The ONLY problem I have is the 50% milking off the other 50% who work in the private sector and pay Taxes, and their constant bitching because THEY ALWAYS WANT MORE from the Taxpayer's, but they NEVER want to contribute. You people...Indeed.

Ok...Understood..However, you opened that can of worms.
Surely yo u must realize that most of us are pretty sick and tired of one person after another claiming minority or victim status. At the end of the day, they do this for one reason. That is for personal gain at the expense of others.
I will be clear...I have no doubt many people of certain races and cultures have been shit on.
What I cannot stand is when these people DEMAND I do something about it.

 

[Staidhup]

Unequal distribution of wealth is just another excuse and argument to increase taxes, the only problem, counter productive, pathetic to say the least, ignores the real problem. The real issue is they pushed corporate taxation to the worlds highest, continued to spend more than we have, killed manufacturing, replaced middle class jobs with service sector lackey jobs, and need another huckleberry to suck dry.

 

[Staidhup]

When you have no one left standing to suck the life out of you end up like Greece and Spain!

 

[MikeK]

I see, so if I defend Joe Blow's right to keep his property because I have no evidence that he stole through violence or fraud , then it is because I am indoctrinated?!?!?!

I would think so. Because whether or not you are consciously aware of it the taking one's property argument is right out of the right-wing corporatist and fanatical Libertarian propaganda playbook. I've heard Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly (all three multi-millionaires) pronounce it many times.

What must be considered when raising that argument is every fortune created within the United States is produced by exploiting the Nation's material, administrative and human resources. And while there is no wish nor intention to preclude the enjoyment of reasonable wealth derived from one's efforts it was not the intention of the founders of this nation, nor is it the the wish of the vast majority of its population, that certain individuals should have the ability to accumulate and hoard inordinate amounts of the Nation's wealth resources, thereby impeding circulation of those resources and causing stagnation of the national economy.

As a committed socialist I advocate the confiscation of all personal assets in excess of twenty million dollars. But the way FDR dealt with the hoarding of wealth is by imposing a progressive tax structure with a maximum rate of ninety-one percent! Keep in mind that either approach would not debilitate the wealthy but would simply cause them to be a bit less wealthy and would vastly improve the overall health of the Nation by maintaining a vibrant economy.

 

[MikeK]

Unequal distribution of wealth is just another excuse and argument to increase taxes, the only problem, counter productive, pathetic to say the least, ignores the real problem. The real issue is they pushed corporate taxation to the worlds highest, continued to spend more than we have, killed manufacturing, replaced middle class jobs with service sector lackey jobs, and need another huckleberry to suck dry.

You have been badly misinformed and you're in need of some basic education in what is really wrong with the U.S. Economy and what is needed to fix it. You would do yourself (and your Country) a big favor by not allowing Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly to brainwash you as they apparently have done. These guys are multi-millionaire propagandists who serve the interests of an emerging plutocracy. They need people like you to carry water for them and I don't say that to offend you but to hopefully make you aware of something.

 

[bripat9643]

I see, so if I defend Joe Blow's right to keep his property because I have no evidence that he stole through violence or fraud , then it is because I am indoctrinated?!?!?!

I would think so. Because whether or not you are consciously aware of it the taking one's property argument is right out of the right-wing corporatist and fanatical Libertarian propaganda playbook. I've heard Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly (all three multi-millionaires) pronounce it many times.

Spoken like a true commie propagandist.

What must be considered when raising that argument is every fortune created within the United States is produced by exploiting the Nation's material, administrative and human resources.

Actually not, but even if it was true, so what? The term "exploit" is so vague as to be totally meaningless.

And while there is no wish nor intention to preclude the enjoyment of reasonable wealth derived from one's efforts it was not the intention of the founders of this nation, nor is it the the wish of the vast majority of its population, that certain individuals should have the ability to accumulate and hoard inordinate amounts of the Nation's wealth resources, thereby impeding circulation of those resources and causing stagnation of the national economy.

Ah . . . another lefty who wants to tell everyone how much wealth they are entitled to earn. Guys like you are a dime a dozen.

As a committed socialist I advocate the confiscation of all personal assets in excess of twenty million dollars.

Yeah, big surprise there.

But the way FDR dealt with the hoarding of wealth is by imposing a progressive tax structure with a maximum rate of ninety-one percent! Keep in mind that either approach would not debilitate the wealthy but would simply cause them to be a bit less wealthy and would vastly improve the overall health of the Nation by maintaining a vibrant economy.

Either approach would destroy the country.

 

[bripat9643]

You have been badly misinformed and you're in need of some basic education in what is really wrong with the U.S. Economy and what is needed to fix it. You would do yourself (and your Country) a big favor by not allowing Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly to brainwash you as they apparently have done. These guys are multi-millionaire propagandists who serve the interests of an emerging plutocracy. They need people like you to carry water for them and I don't say that to offend you but to hopefully make you aware of something.

When has anyone ever demonstrated that confiscatory taxation is beneficial for the economy?

I'd really like to see that "logic." I'll bet it's hysterical.

 

[Contumacious]

I see, so if I defend Joe Blow's right to keep his property because I have no evidence that he stole through violence or fraud , then it is because I am indoctrinated?!?!?!

What must be considered when raising that argument is every fortune created within the United States is produced by exploiting the Nation's material, administrative and human resources.

If that is true. why do the parasites want a share?

As a committed socialist I advocate the confiscation of all personal assets in excess of twenty million dollars.

As a committed Capitalist, I advocate the defense - standing the ground - and defending wealth by any means necessary.


It was not the Founding Fathers intent to create a welfare/warfare state. Nor was it their intent that the Parasitic Faction have the authority to confiscate wealth.

 

[MikeK]

If that is true. why do the parasites want a share?

Specifically who do you mean by parasites?

As a committed Capitalist, I advocate the defense - standing the ground - and defending wealth by any means necessary.

"Defending wealth." Do you mean defending your own wealth or defending the wealth of those who cynically regard you as a usefully deluded lackey.

It was not the Founding Fathers intent to create a welfare/warfare state. Nor was it their intent that the Parasitic Faction have the authority to confiscate wealth.

Again; I can't respond without knowing more specifically who this "parasitic faction" is.

In Hitler's book, Mein Kampf, he refers to the Jews and trade unionists as parasites. I don't think you mean those same categories, so please tell us which category you are referring to so we know what we are talking about.

 

[thanatos144]

Hey maybe the three billionth time of distributing wealth will be the charm huh?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing...

the reasons people throughout history have given for this premise are lost on you? you are ignorant of the arguments?

wow! showing your ignorance this way is -- uhm -- err -- ahhh -- stunning.

 

[Gadawg73]

Unequal distribution of wealth is just another excuse and argument to increase taxes, the only problem, counter productive, pathetic to say the least, ignores the real problem. The real issue is they pushed corporate taxation to the worlds highest, continued to spend more than we have, killed manufacturing, replaced middle class jobs with service sector lackey jobs, and need another huckleberry to suck dry.

You have been badly misinformed and you're in need of some basic education in what is really wrong with the U.S. Economy and what is needed to fix it. You would do yourself (and your Country) a big favor by not allowing Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly to brainwash you as they apparently have done. These guys are multi-millionaire propagandists who serve the interests of an emerging plutocracy. They need people like you to carry water for them and I don't say that to offend you but to hopefully make you aware of something.

I earned my 2 million so keep your damn thieving fingers away from my pockets.
Wealth is never to be redistributed, wealth IS TO BE EARNED.
Get off your ass and go get some.

 

[Gadawg73]

If that is true. why do the parasites want a share?

Specifically who do you mean by parasites?

As a committed Capitalist, I advocate the defense - standing the ground - and defending wealth by any means necessary.

"Defending wealth." Do you mean defending your own wealth or defending the wealth of those who cynically regard you as a usefully deluded lackey.

It was not the Founding Fathers intent to create a welfare/warfare state. Nor was it their intent that the Parasitic Faction have the authority to confiscate wealth.

Again; I can't respond without knowing more specifically who this "parasitic faction" is.

In Hitler's book, Mein Kampf, he refers to the Jews and trade unionists as parasites. I don't think you mean those same categories, so please tell us which category you are referring to so we know what we are talking about.

Hitler was a socialist. Government dictating economic policy in the private sector and allowing private ownership of business. Then he was a fascist.
Similar to Obama.
Trade unions are parasites. Didn't you know?

 

[bripat9643]

Specifically who do you mean by parasites?

Anyone who gets a check from the government without doing anything usefull in exchange.

Do you mean defending your own wealth or defending the wealth of those who cynically regard you as a usefully deluded lackey.

Who cares how they regard you? Do you think only some people are entitled to have their property defended?

In Hitler's book, Mein Kampf, he refers to the Jews and trade unionists as parasites. I don't think you mean those same categories, so please tell us which category you are referring to so we know what we are talking about.

I just explained it: Anyone who gets a check from the government without doing anything usefull in exchange. That undoubtedly includes you.

 

[bripat9643]

I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing...

the reasons people throughout history have given for this premise are lost on you? you are ignorant of the arguments?

The reasons given are just as stupid, petty and mean spirited now as they have always been.

 

[MikeK]

Hey maybe the three billionth time of distributing wealth will be the charm huh?

The last time government (under FDR) imposed a significant reparative redistribution of the Nation's wealth resources was in the 1930s. It occurred as a means of stimulating the severely depressed economy and it led to the rise of the middle class and the most prosperous period in our history, the late 40s to the early 80s, when Reaganomics and a long series of deregulations fostered the incremental decline which has led to the current economic downturn.

The relatively minor cyclical economic adjustments which occur routinely and predictably, even during the best of times, are not reparative redistributions. But what we are seeing today is in many ways a repetition of what went on in the 1920s and the only thing that will pull us out of this depressed condition is another major reparative redistribution. It will require spending reductions, such as available through elimination of many unnecessary military bases in foreign countries, general reductions in military spending, immediate cessation of the wasteful, wholly counterproductive drug war and major tax increases on the upper income levels. The derived revenue should be used to repair our crumbling infrastructure which will create millions of jobs and give rise to many new and thriving industries.

 

[MikeK]

I earned my 2 million so keep your damn thieving fingers away from my pockets.

Two million dollars does not make you a target for a significant tax assessment. In terms of wealth accumulation you are a small fry. So don't concern yourself.

Wealth is never to be redistributed, wealth IS TO BE EARNED.

Wealth is a relative term.

Can you tell us how one goes about "earning" a hundred million dollars? Five hundred million dollars? A billion dollars? Ten billion? How about fifty billion?

I'd say you and the average working person have very different ideas of what the word "earning" means.

Get off your ass and go get some.

I have no need to "get some" because I am quite content with what I already have, which at my age is all I need and a bit more. My concerns are for the future and the character of this Nation which I see declining year after year.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I'd like to know why the unequal distribution of wealth is a bad thing...

the reasons people throughout history have given for this premise are lost on you? you are ignorant of the arguments?

The reasons given are just as stupid, petty and mean spirited now as they have always been.

trying to keep a society from splitting and revolution is "stupid, petty and mean spirited"?

get a refund for whatever education you've paid for