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I suppose we could put that sentiment to the test if we could find a predominately conservatives White neighborhood in this country which had a police dept that was predominately Black (from the police chief on down) and was patrolled by police cruisers manned predominately by Black police officers. Considering how disrespectfully White conservatives talk about President Obama (not to mention the First Lady), anyone here think that White conservatives would put up with being ordered around by Black police officers?
Anyone?
I've heard conservatives say that Black citizens' complaints that there aren't enough Black cops and/or the fact that Ferguson is overwhelmingly Black while the police force is predominantly White is a racist sentiment?
Really?
I suppose we could put that sentiment to the test if we could find a predominately conservatives White neighborhood in this country which had a police dept that was predominately Black (from the police chief on down) and was patrolled by police cruisers manned predominately by Black police officers. Considering how disrespectfully White conservatives talk about President Obama (not to mention the First Lady), anyone here think that White conservatives would put up with being ordered around by Black police officers?
Anyone?
Your argument actually works against you because white people aren't as concerned about the racial makeup of the police department as blacks. It's blacks who whine about a largely white police force, you never hear whites doing that. And in the case of Ferguson, many efforts have been made to get more black applicants to the police department, but they're not stepping up. So fuck them. Seriously.
Really? I beg to differ. People of ALL races tend to have an expectation of good treatment. When it's not forthcoming, they understandably look for reasons to account for it, particularly when they don't feel that they've done anything to justify being treated badly. Consequently, whether a person is Black or White doesn't make any difference at all if a police officer is a member of a different race. If and when people reach the conclusion that race (or some other factor aside from the particulars of the stop) is a factor, those people may be reading the situation right, or it may all be in their own mind. A statistical analysis might be a better way to determine whether something other than impartial police work was at play. Regardless, I can ASSURE you that affluent White people who are accustomed to being treated deferentially are far less likely to put up with poor treatment than relatively powerless Black people who have come to expect harassment at the hands of the police.
Given the high black crime rate, let alone the high black on black murders, IF Michael Brown had been some random Hispanic or Asian or White kid, the so called black "community" would have NOT cared less. Given the high black murder rate, I am still wondering what the fuss is about. I have seen how some black "witnesses" lie through their friggin teeth like idiots to make "race' a issue when it was either a coincidence or tangential, made me question the Ferguson witnesses with the "Hands up don't shoot" stuff. And the Grand Jury found that also to be the case. People LIE.
Given the high black crime rate, let alone the high black on black murders, IF Michael Brown had been some random Hispanic or Asian or White kid, the so called black "community" would have NOT cared less. Given the high black murder rate, I am still wondering what the fuss is about. I have seen how some black "witnesses" lie through their friggin teeth like idiots to make "race' a issue when it was either a coincidence or tangential, made me question the Ferguson witnesses with the "Hands up don't shoot" stuff. And the Grand Jury found that also to be the case. People LIE.
What does the poor black youth have to look up to as role models?
Rappers that used to be gang members, gangs and drug sellers.
It does not help when 72% are raised by a single parent and 39.8% are on welfare.
Given the high black crime rate, let alone the high black on black murders, IF Michael Brown had been some random Hispanic or Asian or White kid, the so called black "community" would have NOT cared less. Given the high black murder rate, I am still wondering what the fuss is about. I have seen how some black "witnesses" lie through their friggin teeth like idiots to make "race' a issue when it was either a coincidence or tangential, made me question the Ferguson witnesses with the "Hands up don't shoot" stuff. And the Grand Jury found that also to be the case. People LIE.
What does the poor black youth have to look up to as role models?
Rappers that used to be gang members, gangs and drug sellers.
It does not help when 72% are raised by a single parent and 39.8% are on welfare.
Neil Degrasse Tyson, Opra Winfried, Hank Aaron, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Muhammed Ali, Arthur Ashe, Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain, Alethea Gibson, Reggie Jackson, Michael Jordan, Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Sugar Ray Leonard, Alex Haley, Morgan Freeman, Gregory Hines, Lena Horne, James Earl Jones, Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy, Sidney Poitier, Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Ray Charles, Nat King Cole, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Aretha Franklin, Dizzy Gillespie, Robert Johnson, Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder.
Shall I continue?
Just so we get this fact clear going forward...
YOU folks on the right are supporting GOVERNMENT over individuals and over people.
However you want to twist it, that is an irrefutable FACT...
The history of mankind has been a struggle between those who want to increase freedom, opportunity and rights to all people and those who want to restrict them. The people who have always fought to increase freedom, opportunity and rights are liberals. The people who have fought to restrict them are conservatives.
Given the high black crime rate, let alone the high black on black murders, IF Michael Brown had been some random Hispanic or Asian or White kid, the so called black "community" would have NOT cared less. Given the high black murder rate, I am still wondering what the fuss is about. I have seen how some black "witnesses" lie through their friggin teeth like idiots to make "race' a issue when it was either a coincidence or tangential, made me question the Ferguson witnesses with the "Hands up don't shoot" stuff. And the Grand Jury found that also to be the case. People LIE.
What does the poor black youth have to look up to as role models?
Rappers that used to be gang members, gangs and drug sellers.
It does not help when 72% are raised by a single parent and 39.8% are on welfare.
Neil Degrasse Tyson, Opra Winfried, Hank Aaron, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Muhammed Ali, Arthur Ashe, Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain, Alethea Gibson, Reggie Jackson, Michael Jordan, Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Sugar Ray Leonard, Alex Haley, Morgan Freeman, Gregory Hines, Lena Horne, James Earl Jones, Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy, Sidney Poitier, Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Ray Charles, Nat King Cole, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Aretha Franklin, Dizzy Gillespie, Robert Johnson, Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder.
Shall I continue?
Just so we get this fact clear going forward...
YOU folks on the right are supporting GOVERNMENT over individuals and over people.
However you want to twist it, that is an irrefutable FACT...
The history of mankind has been a struggle between those who want to increase freedom, opportunity and rights to all people and those who want to restrict them. The people who have always fought to increase freedom, opportunity and rights are liberals. The people who have fought to restrict them are conservatives.
Just so we get this fact clear going forward...
YOU folks on the right are supporting GOVERNMENT over individuals and over people.
However you want to twist it, that is an irrefutable FACT...
The history of mankind has been a struggle between those who want to increase freedom, opportunity and rights to all people and those who want to restrict them. The people who have always fought to increase freedom, opportunity and rights are liberals. The people who have fought to restrict them are conservatives.
Just so we get this fact clear going forward...
YOU folks on the right are supporting GOVERNMENT over individuals and over people.
However you want to twist it, that is an irrefutable FACT...
The history of mankind has been a struggle between those who want to increase freedom, opportunity and rights to all people and those who want to restrict them. The people who have always fought to increase freedom, opportunity and rights are liberals. The people who have fought to restrict them are conservatives.
I don't know whether to laugh or sigh at this. So, pray tell, how have liberals fought to increase freedom when they have tried to force churches to host gay weddings, to force Christian photographers to attend and service gay ceremonies, to restrict and even abolish our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, to allow virtual kiddy porn with the flimsy excuse that it's "only" virtual and not real (never mind that nowadays virtual can look almost real), to force people to buy insurance products for their own bodies against their will, etc, etc., etc., etc.?
Just so we get this fact clear going forward...
YOU folks on the right are supporting GOVERNMENT over individuals and over people.
However you want to twist it, that is an irrefutable FACT...
The history of mankind has been a struggle between those who want to increase freedom, opportunity and rights to all people and those who want to restrict them. The people who have always fought to increase freedom, opportunity and rights are liberals. The people who have fought to restrict them are conservatives.
I don't know whether to laugh or sigh at this. So, pray tell, how have liberals fought to increase freedom when they have tried to force churches to host gay weddings, to force Christian photographers to attend and service gay ceremonies, to restrict and even abolish our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, to allow virtual kiddy porn with the flimsy excuse that it's "only" virtual and not real (never mind that nowadays virtual can look almost real), to force people to buy insurance products for their own bodies against their will, etc, etc., etc., etc.?
Sounds like some kangaroo court in some banana republic...good enough for our GOVERNMENT loving friends on the right...who cares if proper procedure was followed...
Prosecutor Manipulates Grand Jury Process to Shield Officer
You know the fix is in when a suspect who shot an unarmed man voluntarily provides four hours of un-cross examined testimony to a grand jury without taking the Fifth.
On August 9, Ferguson, Missouri Police Officer Darren Wilson gunned down 18-year-old African American Michael Brown. Since that fateful day, people across the country have protested against racial profiling, excessive police force, and the failure of the criminal justice system to provide accountability.
The nail in the coffin of "equal justice under law" came on November 24, when the St. Louis County grand jury refused to indict Wilson for any criminal charges in the shooting death of Brown. In a virtually unprecedented move, St. Louis Prosecutor Robert McCulloch in effect deputized the grand jurors to sit as triers of fact as in a jury trial.
In a normal grand jury proceeding, the prosecutor presents evidence for a few days and then asks the grand jurors to return an indictment, which they nearly always do. Of 162,000 federal cases in 2010, grand juries failed to indict in only 11 of them, according the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
The standard of proof for a grand jury to indict is only probable cause to believe the suspect committed a crime. It is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt, which is required for conviction at trial. Yet McCulloch's team presented testimony and documents to the panel for three months, evidence not subjected to adversarial testing by cross-examination.
The prosecutor did not ask these grand jurors for an indictment. They were left to sift through the evidence on their own, with no prosecutorial guidance about what to charge. Indeed, the transcripts indicated that prosecutors asked Wilson gentle, leading questions designed to bolster his self-defense claim. For example, a prosecutor told Wilson, "You felt like your life was in jeopardy," followed by, "And use of deadly force was justified at that point, in your opinion?" But prosecutors rigorously challenged witnesses who contradicted Wilson's testimony.
The prosecutor didn't have to send the case to the Grand Jury.
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Yes he did. But instead of asking the Grand Jury for an indictment, he vehemently defended Wilson. There was NONE of the fair trial procedures like cross examination. There were witnesses that testified Brown had his arms up and was surrendering when Wilson executed him. THAT ALONE should have been grounds for an indictment and REAL JURY trial...
This was a travesty. The irony is this is what we would expect to see in the old Soviet Union or Iron Curtain countries...it is good enough for commies, so it is good enough for right wingers in America.
Given the high black crime rate, let alone the high black on black murders, IF Michael Brown had been some random Hispanic or Asian or White kid, the so called black "community" would have NOT cared less. Given the high black murder rate, I am still wondering what the fuss is about. I have seen how some black "witnesses" lie through their friggin teeth like idiots to make "race' a issue when it was either a coincidence or tangential, made me question the Ferguson witnesses with the "Hands up don't shoot" stuff. And the Grand Jury found that also to be the case. People LIE.
What does the poor black youth have to look up to as role models?
Rappers that used to be gang members, gangs and drug sellers.
It does not help when 72% are raised by a single parent and 39.8% are on welfare.
Neil Degrasse Tyson, Opra Winfried, Hank Aaron, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Muhammed Ali, Arthur Ashe, Charles Barkley, Wilt Chamberlain, Alethea Gibson, Reggie Jackson, Michael Jordan, Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Sugar Ray Leonard, Alex Haley, Morgan Freeman, Gregory Hines, Lena Horne, James Earl Jones, Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy, Sidney Poitier, Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Ray Charles, Nat King Cole, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Aretha Franklin, Dizzy Gillespie, Robert Johnson, Diana Ross, Stevie Wonder.
Shall I continue?
Wow... poor obama and his butch-dyke wife. They didn't even make the cut in a run of Black CELEBRITIES, which the contributor hoped would be seen as role models... .
The narrative that Wilson tried to hit the two young men with his SUV was provided by Brown's little buddy, Dorian Johnson. Your problem with his testimony is that Dorian has a bad habit of lying his ass off to make himself look good. If you'll recall, Johnson originally said that he met up with Michael Brown outside of the convenience store. When it became public knowledge that there was a tape showing what happened inside of the store that day, Johnson changed that story completely, admitting he was in the store with Brown but that he (Johnson) didn't steal anything.
The more I read you posts here, it is clear you are a real piece of shit. Comparing human beings to hunting wild animals.
Wilson was not hunting wild animals. His job was to arrest and then let a judge and/or jury decide guilt or innocence and hand out proper justice. Wilson served as judge, jury and executioner. He executed a human being. This cop refused carry or use non lethal weapons or drive away and allow backup to arrive. He testified that a tazer was too cumbersome and pepper spray might get in his eyes. He made NO effort to seek a non lethal way to resolve this confrontation. He is not a peace officer. He is a thug with a badge.
I never said that Wilson was hunting animals. I simply made the point that someone can run quite a distance when shot. The fact that you turned what I said into my calling Michael Brown an animal shows just how over the top you're willing to go with this whole thing!
Officer Wilson didn't serve as "judge, jury and executioner"...he simply did his job that morning. What happened was totally the fault of the man who ended up dead on the ground. It wasn't Wilson who woke up with an attitude that day. It wasn't Wilson who decided to rob a store and push around the clerk who tried to stop him. It wasn't Wilson who decided to stroll down the center line of the street holding the cigars he's just stolen. It wasn't Wilson who refused to get out of the street. It wasn't Wilson who reached inside that SUV window and repeatedly struck a police officer. It wasn't Wilson who refused to surrender ever after being shot.
Darren Wilson had been on the job for six years and that was the first time he'd ever shot his gun. To call him a "thug with a badge" is such hyperbole that it's absurd even for you. Police don't "drive away" when they confront felons. They confront them. That's their JOB! That's what that officer did that day...HIS JOB! Nothing more...nothing less.
Michael Brown was executed. That is not the sentence for petty larceny and disobeying a police officer.
Officer Wilson's attitude created the scenario that ended with this tragedy. He rejected the use of all non lethal weapons at his disposal, because they were either too cumbersome or he might get a little pepper in his own eyes. So when a confrontation manifested, he had only ONE weapon at his disposal...a LETHAL one. There is nothing written in law that an officer can't retreat to a safe distance and wait for backup to arrive. He could have driven a few hundred feet to buy time for backup to arrive and assist in the apprehension of a UNARMED young man.
It is amazing just how incurious and unquestioning you folks are when it comes to the GOVERNMENT agencies you folks support. And it is ironic that all those agencies dole out death to citizens.
"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners"
Albert Camus
Micheal Brown didn't "disobey" a police officer...Michael Brown committed assault and battery on a police officer! Michael Brown tried to wrestle a police officer's gun away from him after striking him! What part of that concept don't you grasp? Do you think somehow that there should have been a "trial" conducted in the midst of that fight to determine what Officer Wilson's response was allowed to be? How does that work in your naive little world, Bfgrn? I'd really like to know...
Brown confronted an agent of GOVERNMENT. He was executed and you folks cheer for GOVERNMENT...
Got it!
Just so we get this fact clear going forward...
YOU folks on the right are supporting GOVERNMENT over individuals and over people.
However you want to twist it, that is an irrefutable FACT...
The history of mankind has been a struggle between those who want to increase freedom, opportunity and rights to all people and those who want to restrict them. The people who have always fought to increase freedom, opportunity and rights are liberals. The people who have fought to restrict them are conservatives.
