UK: Racism has returned

[Phoenall]

The neo Marxists who held power for 14 years and introduced positive racism into the system. Putting immigrants to the front of the queue when it came to health care, housing, welfare, employment and advancement. How many times did we see court cases were immigrants were advanced above their skills and claimed millions for damage done to their reputations. How many times have we seen reports of immigrants getting London Mansions while the indigenous had to exist in overcrowded one room B&B's. How much of the racial hatred is down to the way the immigrants treat the indigenous, and the many recent cases of child rape and exploitation that were shown to be done in a racist manner. So I think this answers the question, the neo Marxists started the ball rolling and the immigrants picked up on the ease with which they could get an upper hand by screaming racist at every slight, this led to the indigenous thinking if we are to be called racists then we may as well be racists.

If an immigrant works hard and wise, he will end up in mansion. It is common sense. Your life will not be improved by being jealous of others. It can only be improved by working hard and smart.

What have you done to improve your life? You need to ask that question instead of doing nothing and expecting to move into mansion just because immigrants have mansions.

The thing is not one of the immigrants given a London mansion worked in all the time they scrounged of my country. They arrive on a plane go straight to the local government office and demand a 6 bedroom house for them and their family, and like the fools we are we give in to their demands.

What have I done with my life, I worked from leaving school right up until my health deteriorated so much that I could no longer work. I worked 12 to 16 hour shifts in appalling conditions often changing my clothes 3 or 4 times a shift. Working in hot steamy condition underneath a steel mill to keep it running. Then went on to working outdoors in all weathers and conditions. Paid over the odds into my pension fund as I knew steel workers died early due to the nature of the work and the working conditions. Retired at 55 due to ill health after working 32 years in conditions no immigrants would work in. So where is my free London mansion, latest video games, 48 inch led T.V. and BMW outside in my private parking space. Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense.

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

I educated myself well enough and progressed to a position of authority, did many courses and studied hard while I was working. I have an above average I.Q. and plenty of qualifications that allowed me to progress through life. Intellectually sound enough to know that I needed to pay more so that I would not lose out so not a worker bee but a drone. I now can afford to sit back and relax knowing that I have a good home paid for, a decent car, and a family that is provided for. But I detest immigrants coming here demanding everything and not working at all to pay for their luxury, and with the new rules imposed by the EU this will become a thing of the past.

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim. I am not doubting you but this would at least give reason for you to detest immigrants even though you having these misplaced feelings are not the immigrants fault if what you say is true.

Try reading my post again as I did mention this and it seems that you missed it

" Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense."


As for links here you go

Single mum of six finds mansion on the net and then gets YOU to pay 7 000 a month rent Daily Mail Online

Family on benefits move into 2 million home - Telegraph

UK Muslim refugee given 1.25m house in upmarket London street only to trash it The Muslim Issue

immigration what a joke Housing and schools )

 

[Phoenall]

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

One of the things we learn as grownups is that money is not everything. There is more to life than money. I do not have any problem with anyone who chose to become a factory worker. I do not think his life is any less valuable than of Bill Gates. But the important thing to realize is that you have to find satisfaction in your life that you have created through your choices.

I would agree with you. However, if you are complaining because you dont have the things that someone else has then you either have an insurmountable hurdle in front of you or you were not smart enough to do the things that person did to get those things. What you do for a living does not determine your worth as a human. It does however, determine your worth in regards to money and the ability to obtain the things you covet..

I agree. That is why I said that you have to learn to find satisfaction in the life who chose to create. If money is your primary objective in the life then choosing career of a factory worker is not going to be very satisfying.

It was very satisfying knowing that everything I owned was paid for and was not scrounged of those prepared to work hard.

You are not satisfied at all. If you were, you would not be fabricating falsehood about immigrants to justify your hatred born of your lack of accomplishments.

Far too many cases have been reported in the UK media of how immigrants are given everything while the indigenous get nothing. An example is an elderly person on the state pension who gets £6000 a year average to live on, an immigrant who is unemployable gets £27000 a year. The elderly pensioner will have worked for at least 50 years and paid taxes all their life, the immigrant gets of the plane and gets a home paid for and it is fully furnished out of the taxpayers pockets. I have produced the links regarding the problems caused by unemployable migrants getting treated better than the employed in the UK. I lost 30% OF MY PENSION FUND WHEN BROWN GRABBED IT TO FUND HIS WELFARE PAYMENTS TO THE IMMIGRANTS AFTER HE GAVE THEM FULL PENSION RIGHTS WITHOUT WORKING

 

[Asclepias]

If an immigrant works hard and wise, he will end up in mansion. It is common sense. Your life will not be improved by being jealous of others. It can only be improved by working hard and smart.

What have you done to improve your life? You need to ask that question instead of doing nothing and expecting to move into mansion just because immigrants have mansions.

The thing is not one of the immigrants given a London mansion worked in all the time they scrounged of my country. They arrive on a plane go straight to the local government office and demand a 6 bedroom house for them and their family, and like the fools we are we give in to their demands.

What have I done with my life, I worked from leaving school right up until my health deteriorated so much that I could no longer work. I worked 12 to 16 hour shifts in appalling conditions often changing my clothes 3 or 4 times a shift. Working in hot steamy condition underneath a steel mill to keep it running. Then went on to working outdoors in all weathers and conditions. Paid over the odds into my pension fund as I knew steel workers died early due to the nature of the work and the working conditions. Retired at 55 due to ill health after working 32 years in conditions no immigrants would work in. So where is my free London mansion, latest video games, 48 inch led T.V. and BMW outside in my private parking space. Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense.

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

I educated myself well enough and progressed to a position of authority, did many courses and studied hard while I was working. I have an above average I.Q. and plenty of qualifications that allowed me to progress through life. Intellectually sound enough to know that I needed to pay more so that I would not lose out so not a worker bee but a drone. I now can afford to sit back and relax knowing that I have a good home paid for, a decent car, and a family that is provided for. But I detest immigrants coming here demanding everything and not working at all to pay for their luxury, and with the new rules imposed by the EU this will become a thing of the past.

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim. I am not doubting you but this would at least give reason for you to detest immigrants even though you having these misplaced feelings are not the immigrants fault if what you say is true.

Try reading my post again as I did mention this and it seems that you missed it

" Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense."


As for links here you go

Single mum of six finds mansion on the net and then gets YOU to pay 7 000 a month rent Daily Mail Online

Family on benefits move into 2 million home - Telegraph

UK Muslim refugee given 1.25m house in upmarket London street only to trash it The Muslim Issue

immigration what a joke Housing and schools )

No I didnt miss your statement. You said you furthered you education at your own expense. That could mean you bought a book and read it. You then said you worked from leaving school up until your health deteriorated. Right after that you claim you worked 12 - 16 hour shifts something doesnt pass the sniff test.

Like I told the other guy one offs of people gaming the system doesn't mean immigrants are given mansions and BMWs. Are you claiming only immigrants are gaming the system? That would make much more sense because you have yet to show me a policy that says only immigrants get mansions while on benefits.

 

[Phoenall]

It seems In-your-face racism has returned in UK. So who is at fault: racist whites or extremist Muslims?

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Last week on the No 9 bus, a middle-aged white woman shouted “bloody Paki” and spat at me. The sputum landed on the back of my seat, grey and revolting as she was.
No one said a thing, not even the black and Asian people around me. They all lowered or averted their eyes. I was spat at in 1972, too, after exiled Ugandan Asians with British passports arrived here. That time I was sitting quietly in a park in Oxford, reading Middlemarch. So you think it’s much better than the really bad old days? The truth is that, since 2001, in-your-face racism has returned. But those who suffer it just have to swallow the insults and degradation.

The difference is that, back then, we had politicians of all parties, including Tories, who felt keenly that racial prejudice and discrimination were unjust and reprehensible. They passed laws, used government purchasing power to get companies to operate fairly and, bit by bit, made racism unacceptable in the public space. Now those at the top – with the exception of Diane Abbott – say nothing and do even less about this stain on our society. Ethnic-minority politicians are the biggest cowards of the lot.

...

In-your-face racism has returned and few are fighting against it - Comment - Voices - The Independent

The neo Marxists who held power for 14 years and introduced positive racism into the system. Putting immigrants to the front of the queue when it came to health care, housing, welfare, employment and advancement. How many times did we see court cases were immigrants were advanced above their skills and claimed millions for damage done to their reputations. How many times have we seen reports of immigrants getting London Mansions while the indigenous had to exist in overcrowded one room B&B's. How much of the racial hatred is down to the way the immigrants treat the indigenous, and the many recent cases of child rape and exploitation that were shown to be done in a racist manner. So I think this answers the question, the neo Marxists started the ball rolling and the immigrants picked up on the ease with which they could get an upper hand by screaming racist at every slight, this led to the indigenous thinking if we are to be called racists then we may as well be racists.

If an immigrant works hard and wise, he will end up in mansion. It is common sense. Your life will not be improved by being jealous of others. It can only be improved by working hard and smart.

What have you done to improve your life? You need to ask that question instead of doing nothing and expecting to move into mansion just because immigrants have mansions.

The thing is not one of the immigrants given a London mansion worked in all the time they scrounged of my country. They arrive on a plane go straight to the local government office and demand a 6 bedroom house for them and their family, and like the fools we are we give in to their demands.

What have I done with my life, I worked from leaving school right up until my health deteriorated so much that I could no longer work. I worked 12 to 16 hour shifts in appalling conditions often changing my clothes 3 or 4 times a shift. Working in hot steamy condition underneath a steel mill to keep it running. Then went on to working outdoors in all weathers and conditions. Paid over the odds into my pension fund as I knew steel workers died early due to the nature of the work and the working conditions. Retired at 55 due to ill health after working 32 years in conditions no immigrants would work in. So where is my free London mansion, latest video games, 48 inch led T.V. and BMW outside in my private parking space. Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense.

You are simply jealous of success of hard working immigrants. There are lots of ill informed Americans say the exact same non-sense about American immigrants that you have posted about the immigrants in UK; they say as soon as immigrants arrive in the US, they receive $25K in cash. I came to the US as an immigrant and I can assure you that there is no such scheme. Lots of white folks when they see a successful immigrant, they assume that his expensive car or home or his wealth is due to social welfare benefits that he unfairly received. They are not willing to see the hard work and determination that went in and they fail to realize a simple fact that you cannot become rich on social welfare. You display the same symptoms.

If you think immigrants in UK are entitled to a six-bedroom home upon arrival. You should move to Pakistan and obtain the Pakistani citizenship. Then, move back to the UK as immigrant and claim your free six-bedroom home, BMW, etc.

Make some effort instead of whining.

In the US at least, most immigrants work very hard at jobs that others don't want. Their success comes fairly earned through the value of work and education. It's a common myth that they come just for welfare.

Until Obama changed the rules and started to flood the USA with unemployable muslim immigrants. You watch what happens now the doors have been opened.

 

[Saigon]

The whites who are fighting against foreign invaders cannot be blamed for defending their nation.

This is really a repulsive post, and you should be ashamed of it.

Since when is spitting on an innocent person a form of defense?!

 

[Saigon]

Until Obama changed the rules and started to flood the USA with unemployable muslim immigrants. You watch what happens now the doors have been opened.

Jesus wept....would you like to back this point up by posting the numbers of Muslims who moved to the US under Obama vs under Bush?

Or are you just straight out lying?

 

[Phoenall]

The thing is not one of the immigrants given a London mansion worked in all the time they scrounged of my country. They arrive on a plane go straight to the local government office and demand a 6 bedroom house for them and their family, and like the fools we are we give in to their demands.

What have I done with my life, I worked from leaving school right up until my health deteriorated so much that I could no longer work. I worked 12 to 16 hour shifts in appalling conditions often changing my clothes 3 or 4 times a shift. Working in hot steamy condition underneath a steel mill to keep it running. Then went on to working outdoors in all weathers and conditions. Paid over the odds into my pension fund as I knew steel workers died early due to the nature of the work and the working conditions. Retired at 55 due to ill health after working 32 years in conditions no immigrants would work in. So where is my free London mansion, latest video games, 48 inch led T.V. and BMW outside in my private parking space. Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense.

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

I educated myself well enough and progressed to a position of authority, did many courses and studied hard while I was working. I have an above average I.Q. and plenty of qualifications that allowed me to progress through life. Intellectually sound enough to know that I needed to pay more so that I would not lose out so not a worker bee but a drone. I now can afford to sit back and relax knowing that I have a good home paid for, a decent car, and a family that is provided for. But I detest immigrants coming here demanding everything and not working at all to pay for their luxury, and with the new rules imposed by the EU this will become a thing of the past.

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim.

Link:

A family of jobless refugees who allegedly wrecked a £1.25million house paid for by the taxpayer claim they are ‘entitled’ to live there.

Manal Mahmoud and her seven children moved into the Victorian end-of-terrace home after it was given a £76,000 facelift. . . .

In February it emerged that at least 100 families receiving housing benefit were living in luxury homes on handouts that could fund £1m mortgages.


More than 30 of those families were being given £1,500 a week to live 'swanky' lifestyles - more than three times the national average wage.

Of the 100 families, 60 have their rent paid by the state to the value of £5,000 a month, according to the Department for Work and Pensions.

In 2010 it emerged that a family of Somalian asylum seekers were getting £1.2m a year to live in Kensington, west London - a short walk from the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's home in Kensington Palace.

Abdi Nur, 42, an unemployed bus conductor, his wife Sayruq, 40, and their seven children moved to the three-storey home in the fashionable area of the capital after complaining that their previous home had been in a 'poor' part of the city.

In another case last year, a Somalian family moved from a house in Coventry to a £2m property in West Hampstead, north London.

Saeed Khaliiff was given £2,000 a week for the home despite having no links to the area, which has been home to George Michael, Sienna Miller, Jude Law and Helena Bonham Carter.

Meanwhile, Afghan mother of seven Toorpakai Saindi was handed £12,000 in housing benefit a month to be able to live in a £1.2million mansion in Acton, west London as there weren't enough council houses big enough.​

Link:

A family of former asylum-seekers from Somalia are living in a £2.1million luxury townhouse in one of Britain's most exclusive addresses at a cost to taxpayers of £8,000 a month.

Abdi and Sayruq Nur and their seven children moved into their three-storey property in a fashionable area of London last month because they didn't like the 'poorer' part of the city they were living in.

Mr Nur, 42, an unemployed bus conductor, and his 40-year-old wife, who has never worked, are now living in Kensington despite the fact that they are totally dependent on state benefits.

They live close to celebrities, including artist Lucian Freud, singer Damon Albarn and designer Stella McCartney, and their home is just minutes from the fashionable Kensington Place restaurant which was a favourite haunt of the late Princess Diana.

The family's new home is believed to be one of the most expensive houses ever paid for by housing benefit, which is administered by local councils but funded by the Department for Work and Pensions.

The disclosure that a single family has been paid so much will embarrass Ministers, who last month pledged to rein in Britain's £20billion-a-year housing benefit bill.

Mr Nur said his former five-bedroom home in the Kensal Rise area of Brent, which cost £900 a week in housing benefit, was suitable for the family's needs but he said they had felt compelled to move because they did not like living 'in a very poor area' and were unhappy with the quality of local shops and schools.

He said he found the new house through a friend who knew the landlord, arranged to rent it through an estate agent, then approached officials at Kensington and Chelsea council who said 'it would be no problem' to move.

Rules allow anyone who is eligible for housing benefit to claim for a private property in any part of the country they wish.

The £2,000 per week is paid directly to Mr Nur and his family, who then pay their landlord.​

Sorry but one offs dont count. Those examples sound like people gaming the system just like they do here. I need a link that specifies a policy of giving mansions and BMW's to immigrants.

Feds Seattle welfare recipient lives in million dollar home

Those are not ONE OFFS at all but examples of what is happening. There are cases of married couples with 3 or 4 children being housed in one room flats because the local council has no more money for the indigenous housing crisis.

 

[Phoenall]

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim.

Link:

A family of jobless refugees who allegedly wrecked a £1.25million house paid for by the taxpayer claim they are ‘entitled’ to live there.

Manal Mahmoud and her seven children moved into the Victorian end-of-terrace home after it was given a £76,000 facelift. . . .

In February it emerged that at least 100 families receiving housing benefit were living in luxury homes on handouts that could fund £1m mortgages.


More than 30 of those families were being given £1,500 a week to live 'swanky' lifestyles - more than three times the national average wage.

Of the 100 families, 60 have their rent paid by the state to the value of £5,000 a month, according to the Department for Work and Pensions.

In 2010 it emerged that a family of Somalian asylum seekers were getting £1.2m a year to live in Kensington, west London - a short walk from the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's home in Kensington Palace.

Abdi Nur, 42, an unemployed bus conductor, his wife Sayruq, 40, and their seven children moved to the three-storey home in the fashionable area of the capital after complaining that their previous home had been in a 'poor' part of the city.

In another case last year, a Somalian family moved from a house in Coventry to a £2m property in West Hampstead, north London.

Saeed Khaliiff was given £2,000 a week for the home despite having no links to the area, which has been home to George Michael, Sienna Miller, Jude Law and Helena Bonham Carter.

Meanwhile, Afghan mother of seven Toorpakai Saindi was handed £12,000 in housing benefit a month to be able to live in a £1.2million mansion in Acton, west London as there weren't enough council houses big enough.​

Link:

A family of former asylum-seekers from Somalia are living in a £2.1million luxury townhouse in one of Britain's most exclusive addresses at a cost to taxpayers of £8,000 a month.

Abdi and Sayruq Nur and their seven children moved into their three-storey property in a fashionable area of London last month because they didn't like the 'poorer' part of the city they were living in.

Mr Nur, 42, an unemployed bus conductor, and his 40-year-old wife, who has never worked, are now living in Kensington despite the fact that they are totally dependent on state benefits.

They live close to celebrities, including artist Lucian Freud, singer Damon Albarn and designer Stella McCartney, and their home is just minutes from the fashionable Kensington Place restaurant which was a favourite haunt of the late Princess Diana.

The family's new home is believed to be one of the most expensive houses ever paid for by housing benefit, which is administered by local councils but funded by the Department for Work and Pensions.

The disclosure that a single family has been paid so much will embarrass Ministers, who last month pledged to rein in Britain's £20billion-a-year housing benefit bill.

Mr Nur said his former five-bedroom home in the Kensal Rise area of Brent, which cost £900 a week in housing benefit, was suitable for the family's needs but he said they had felt compelled to move because they did not like living 'in a very poor area' and were unhappy with the quality of local shops and schools.

He said he found the new house through a friend who knew the landlord, arranged to rent it through an estate agent, then approached officials at Kensington and Chelsea council who said 'it would be no problem' to move.

Rules allow anyone who is eligible for housing benefit to claim for a private property in any part of the country they wish.

The £2,000 per week is paid directly to Mr Nur and his family, who then pay their landlord.​

Sorry but one offs dont count. Those examples sound like people gaming the system just like they do here. I need a link that specifies a policy of giving mansions and BMW's to immigrants.

Feds Seattle welfare recipient lives in million dollar home

Good point. Sometimes rich people experience bad lucks and end up losing all their bank balance therefore they perhaps have no other option but to apply for welfare. They probably live in mansion that they earned when the times were good. This does not mean the mansion was a product of welfare.

Vik----you are right---the system does not require that a person give up the home he owns -----to qualify for DISABILITY BENEFITS-----nor food stamps-----I have no idea what those other benefits are-----but most benefits are
a matter of INCOME-----not the house in which one lives----
anyway ---maybe it belongs to relative----giving the poor relatives a break-----sheeeeesh

You are right on the dot iRosie. It does not take a rocket science to figure out the ultimate agenda of these haters.

Different rules in the UK and here we gave mansions to immigrants straight of the plane, then up to £50,000 in other welfare payments. All this while indigenous families were forced to cram 6 to a room in boarding houses with no cooking or pantry facilities. Many people complained about this and were told they would lose their place in the queue for housing if the carried on being racist.

 

[Saigon]

I lost 30% OF MY PENSION FUND WHEN BROWN GRABBED IT TO FUND HIS WELFARE PAYMENTS TO THE IMMIGRANTS AFTER HE GAVE THEM FULL PENSION RIGHTS WITHOUT WORKING

Really?

Interesting - because apparently that is not now the case, anyway....so perhaps you misunderstood what the previous government did?

Employment Minister Chris Grayling said: “The Government takes the very firm view there should be no opening up of our welfare system to people coming from abroad who do not intend to work and contribute to British society.

“Our arrangements are for Britain to decide, not Brussels. I’m not happy with the way that the EU is behaving.

“Europe should not be negotiating social security deals on our behalf. That’s why we’re going through the courts to stop them.”

All migrants to get a British pension UK News Daily Express

 

[Asclepias]

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

I educated myself well enough and progressed to a position of authority, did many courses and studied hard while I was working. I have an above average I.Q. and plenty of qualifications that allowed me to progress through life. Intellectually sound enough to know that I needed to pay more so that I would not lose out so not a worker bee but a drone. I now can afford to sit back and relax knowing that I have a good home paid for, a decent car, and a family that is provided for. But I detest immigrants coming here demanding everything and not working at all to pay for their luxury, and with the new rules imposed by the EU this will become a thing of the past.

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim.

Link:

A family of jobless refugees who allegedly wrecked a £1.25million house paid for by the taxpayer claim they are ‘entitled’ to live there.

Manal Mahmoud and her seven children moved into the Victorian end-of-terrace home after it was given a £76,000 facelift. . . .

In February it emerged that at least 100 families receiving housing benefit were living in luxury homes on handouts that could fund £1m mortgages.


More than 30 of those families were being given £1,500 a week to live 'swanky' lifestyles - more than three times the national average wage.

Of the 100 families, 60 have their rent paid by the state to the value of £5,000 a month, according to the Department for Work and Pensions.

In 2010 it emerged that a family of Somalian asylum seekers were getting £1.2m a year to live in Kensington, west London - a short walk from the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge's home in Kensington Palace.

Abdi Nur, 42, an unemployed bus conductor, his wife Sayruq, 40, and their seven children moved to the three-storey home in the fashionable area of the capital after complaining that their previous home had been in a 'poor' part of the city.

In another case last year, a Somalian family moved from a house in Coventry to a £2m property in West Hampstead, north London.

Saeed Khaliiff was given £2,000 a week for the home despite having no links to the area, which has been home to George Michael, Sienna Miller, Jude Law and Helena Bonham Carter.

Meanwhile, Afghan mother of seven Toorpakai Saindi was handed £12,000 in housing benefit a month to be able to live in a £1.2million mansion in Acton, west London as there weren't enough council houses big enough.​

Link:

A family of former asylum-seekers from Somalia are living in a £2.1million luxury townhouse in one of Britain's most exclusive addresses at a cost to taxpayers of £8,000 a month.

Abdi and Sayruq Nur and their seven children moved into their three-storey property in a fashionable area of London last month because they didn't like the 'poorer' part of the city they were living in.

Mr Nur, 42, an unemployed bus conductor, and his 40-year-old wife, who has never worked, are now living in Kensington despite the fact that they are totally dependent on state benefits.

They live close to celebrities, including artist Lucian Freud, singer Damon Albarn and designer Stella McCartney, and their home is just minutes from the fashionable Kensington Place restaurant which was a favourite haunt of the late Princess Diana.

The family's new home is believed to be one of the most expensive houses ever paid for by housing benefit, which is administered by local councils but funded by the Department for Work and Pensions.

The disclosure that a single family has been paid so much will embarrass Ministers, who last month pledged to rein in Britain's £20billion-a-year housing benefit bill.

Mr Nur said his former five-bedroom home in the Kensal Rise area of Brent, which cost £900 a week in housing benefit, was suitable for the family's needs but he said they had felt compelled to move because they did not like living 'in a very poor area' and were unhappy with the quality of local shops and schools.

He said he found the new house through a friend who knew the landlord, arranged to rent it through an estate agent, then approached officials at Kensington and Chelsea council who said 'it would be no problem' to move.

Rules allow anyone who is eligible for housing benefit to claim for a private property in any part of the country they wish.

The £2,000 per week is paid directly to Mr Nur and his family, who then pay their landlord.​

Sorry but one offs dont count. Those examples sound like people gaming the system just like they do here. I need a link that specifies a policy of giving mansions and BMW's to immigrants.

Feds Seattle welfare recipient lives in million dollar home

Those are not ONE OFFS at all but examples of what is happening. There are cases of married couples with 3 or 4 children being housed in one room flats because the local council has no more money for the indigenous housing crisis.

Examples are one offs. Until you can show me a policy that states immigrants are to be given mansions and BMWs I simply have to call your claim hogwash.

 

[High_Gravity]

Returned? lol it never left.

 

[irosie91]

Returned? lol it never left.

the brits all but INVENTED IT-----well---actually that was
the greeks------then the romans EAGERLY adopted it---
and handed it to the Brits----as they jumped out of the trees-------after they stopped painting themselves blue----they realized that their only claim to fame was-----very white skin---
so WHITE SKIN became the biggie for the next 2000
years

 

[Vikrant]

If an immigrant works hard and wise, he will end up in mansion. It is common sense. Your life will not be improved by being jealous of others. It can only be improved by working hard and smart.

What have you done to improve your life? You need to ask that question instead of doing nothing and expecting to move into mansion just because immigrants have mansions.

The thing is not one of the immigrants given a London mansion worked in all the time they scrounged of my country. They arrive on a plane go straight to the local government office and demand a 6 bedroom house for them and their family, and like the fools we are we give in to their demands.

What have I done with my life, I worked from leaving school right up until my health deteriorated so much that I could no longer work. I worked 12 to 16 hour shifts in appalling conditions often changing my clothes 3 or 4 times a shift. Working in hot steamy condition underneath a steel mill to keep it running. Then went on to working outdoors in all weathers and conditions. Paid over the odds into my pension fund as I knew steel workers died early due to the nature of the work and the working conditions. Retired at 55 due to ill health after working 32 years in conditions no immigrants would work in. So where is my free London mansion, latest video games, 48 inch led T.V. and BMW outside in my private parking space. Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense.

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

I educated myself well enough and progressed to a position of authority, did many courses and studied hard while I was working. I have an above average I.Q. and plenty of qualifications that allowed me to progress through life. Intellectually sound enough to know that I needed to pay more so that I would not lose out so not a worker bee but a drone. I now can afford to sit back and relax knowing that I have a good home paid for, a decent car, and a family that is provided for. But I detest immigrants coming here demanding everything and not working at all to pay for their luxury, and with the new rules imposed by the EU this will become a thing of the past.

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim. I am not doubting you but this would at least give reason for you to detest immigrants even though you having these misplaced feelings are not the immigrants fault if what you say is true.

Try reading my post again as I did mention this and it seems that you missed it

" Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense."


As for links here you go

Single mum of six finds mansion on the net and then gets YOU to pay 7 000 a month rent Daily Mail Online

Family on benefits move into 2 million home - Telegraph

UK Muslim refugee given 1.25m house in upmarket London street only to trash it The Muslim Issue

immigration what a joke Housing and schools )

Can you point me to a website where an immigrant can apply for his/her free six-bedroom house and free BMW?

The links that you have posted talk about special cases where bureaucracy failed to find housing for the applicants so the applicants took the matter into their own hands and found the housing on their own. According to the law at that time they were entitled to a maximum of £1,600 per week in benefits. Later on law changed and there is a cap of £400 per week. Anyone who is on welfare is entitle to those benefits. It has nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. Now, it is quite possible that Muslims may constitute a larger portion than any other group of welfare recipients in the UK but that is a different issue.

Unlike what the other guy is saying, it is not about people gaming the system. It is about people claiming their welfare benefits as they were entitled under the law. You need to read and comprehend the links you are posting. The problem here is your lack of knowledge not the immigrants.

 

[Phoenall]

I lost 30% OF MY PENSION FUND WHEN BROWN GRABBED IT TO FUND HIS WELFARE PAYMENTS TO THE IMMIGRANTS AFTER HE GAVE THEM FULL PENSION RIGHTS WITHOUT WORKING

Really?

Interesting - because apparently that is not now the case, anyway....so perhaps you misunderstood what the previous government did?

Employment Minister Chris Grayling said: “The Government takes the very firm view there should be no opening up of our welfare system to people coming from abroad who do not intend to work and contribute to British society.

“Our arrangements are for Britain to decide, not Brussels. I’m not happy with the way that the EU is behaving.

“Europe should not be negotiating social security deals on our behalf. That’s why we’re going through the courts to stop them.”

All migrants to get a British pension UK News Daily Express

Read what I posted again "under the last Government" and Brown stole pension money to fund the welfare payments of immigrants

The man who stole your old age How Gordon Brown secretly imposed a ruinous tax that has wrecked the retirements of millions Daily Mail Online


The Brown cabal needed to find ways to raise extra tax revenues for the wide-ranging programme of reforms New Labour planned.
So, on one fateful night in that suite overlooking Hyde Park, they decided that, once in power, they would launch a massive multi-billion-pound raid on a gold-plated, copper-bottomed sector of the British economy - its pension funds.

 

[Saigon]

Phoenell -

Interesting article, and one it would be interesting to read from a less laughably partisan source, but it doesn't have a hell of a lot to do with what you posted, does it?

I agree that Brown's tax removed a large chunk of money from pension schemes and possibly shouldn't have been introduced - but this does not mean that the money was a) given to migrants or b) that migrants receive full pensions in the UK. They don't.

 

[Phoenall]

The thing is not one of the immigrants given a London mansion worked in all the time they scrounged of my country. They arrive on a plane go straight to the local government office and demand a 6 bedroom house for them and their family, and like the fools we are we give in to their demands.

What have I done with my life, I worked from leaving school right up until my health deteriorated so much that I could no longer work. I worked 12 to 16 hour shifts in appalling conditions often changing my clothes 3 or 4 times a shift. Working in hot steamy condition underneath a steel mill to keep it running. Then went on to working outdoors in all weathers and conditions. Paid over the odds into my pension fund as I knew steel workers died early due to the nature of the work and the working conditions. Retired at 55 due to ill health after working 32 years in conditions no immigrants would work in. So where is my free London mansion, latest video games, 48 inch led T.V. and BMW outside in my private parking space. Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense.

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

I educated myself well enough and progressed to a position of authority, did many courses and studied hard while I was working. I have an above average I.Q. and plenty of qualifications that allowed me to progress through life. Intellectually sound enough to know that I needed to pay more so that I would not lose out so not a worker bee but a drone. I now can afford to sit back and relax knowing that I have a good home paid for, a decent car, and a family that is provided for. But I detest immigrants coming here demanding everything and not working at all to pay for their luxury, and with the new rules imposed by the EU this will become a thing of the past.

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim. I am not doubting you but this would at least give reason for you to detest immigrants even though you having these misplaced feelings are not the immigrants fault if what you say is true.

Try reading my post again as I did mention this and it seems that you missed it

" Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense."


As for links here you go

Single mum of six finds mansion on the net and then gets YOU to pay 7 000 a month rent Daily Mail Online

Family on benefits move into 2 million home - Telegraph

UK Muslim refugee given 1.25m house in upmarket London street only to trash it The Muslim Issue

immigration what a joke Housing and schools )

Can you point me to a website where an immigrant can apply for his/her free six-bedroom house and free BMW?

The links that you have posted talk about special cases where bureaucracy failed to find housing for the applicants so the applicants took the matter into their own hands and found the housing on their own. According to the law at that time they were entitled to a maximum of £1,600 per week in benefits. Later on law changed and there is a cap of £400 per week. Anyone who is on welfare is entitle to those benefits. It has nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. Now, it is quite possible that Muslims may constitute a larger portion than any other group of welfare recipients in the UK but that is a different issue.

Unlike what the other guy is saying, it is not about people gaming the system. It is about people claiming their welfare benefits as they were entitled under the law. You need to read and comprehend the links you are posting. The problem here is your lack of knowledge not the immigrants.

Did you miss the part were one man demanded to be rehoused, an unemployed bus conductor, because his current home was not is a "posh" enough area. So not special cases at all but immigrants working the system for their own gain. Now they can no longer do this and they are claiming racial discrimination. The most recent case involves an Eastern European who is working and claiming all he can, and has told his wife and family to get over here because they will get £1500 a month on top of what he can fiddle working cash in hand. That is £1200 a month more than he gets in his own country, now you know why the Brits want out of Europe

 

[Phoenall]

Phoenell -

Interesting article, and one it would be interesting to read from a less laughably partisan source, but it doesn't have a hell of a lot to do with what you posted, does it?

I agree that Brown's tax removed a large chunk of money from pension schemes and possibly shouldn't have been introduced - but this does not mean that the money was a) given to migrants or b) that migrants receive full pensions in the UK. They don't.

Benefits for non-UK nationals nidirect


This shows what migrants get and how they don't need to have first paid into the system. They can get of the plane and go to a local government office in the part of the UK they wish to live and be given a furnished home free. I had to pay for mine and for the right to live in it. Do you accept that this is RACIST and unfair to all the hard working British indigenous subjects ?

 

[Saigon]

Phoenell -

Do you ever READ the links you post?!

Nothing in the link provided says anything even remotely like that!

The link includes points such as:

"for asylum seekers and those who are destitute, for example, you are homeless or can’t buy food, financial support may be provided by the Home Office."

That does not sound racist or unreasonable to me.

I don't know pretend to know the details of the UK system, but so far nothing you have presented comes within miles of backing up your claims.

The funny thing is, I probably would also agree that some benefits for non-EU migrants are excessive, but you don't do yourself any favours by making claims that don't appear to be true.

 

[irosie91]

The thing is not one of the immigrants given a London mansion worked in all the time they scrounged of my country. They arrive on a plane go straight to the local government office and demand a 6 bedroom house for them and their family, and like the fools we are we give in to their demands.

What have I done with my life, I worked from leaving school right up until my health deteriorated so much that I could no longer work. I worked 12 to 16 hour shifts in appalling conditions often changing my clothes 3 or 4 times a shift. Working in hot steamy condition underneath a steel mill to keep it running. Then went on to working outdoors in all weathers and conditions. Paid over the odds into my pension fund as I knew steel workers died early due to the nature of the work and the working conditions. Retired at 55 due to ill health after working 32 years in conditions no immigrants would work in. So where is my free London mansion, latest video games, 48 inch led T.V. and BMW outside in my private parking space. Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense.

That seems to be your problem. You only worked hard but did not work smart. You left yourself no time to educate yourself and instead you just became a worker bee very similar to poor uneducated whites in the US. Like the poor unedcuated whites here you cant seem to understand your lack of intellect is not the fault of people more intelligent than yourself.

I educated myself well enough and progressed to a position of authority, did many courses and studied hard while I was working. I have an above average I.Q. and plenty of qualifications that allowed me to progress through life. Intellectually sound enough to know that I needed to pay more so that I would not lose out so not a worker bee but a drone. I now can afford to sit back and relax knowing that I have a good home paid for, a decent car, and a family that is provided for. But I detest immigrants coming here demanding everything and not working at all to pay for their luxury, and with the new rules imposed by the EU this will become a thing of the past.

Kind of odd you suddenly saying you did many courses and studied hard after claiming you worked practically all the time until you got too sickly to continue working. Are you really claiming that immigrants to the UK are given mansions and BMW's? Do you have a link or something to support this claim. I am not doubting you but this would at least give reason for you to detest immigrants even though you having these misplaced feelings are not the immigrants fault if what you say is true.

Try reading my post again as I did mention this and it seems that you missed it

" Or aren't I dark skinned enough to warrant that treatment, just a hard working indigenous who gave his all for the country and furthered his education at his own expense."


As for links here you go

Single mum of six finds mansion on the net and then gets YOU to pay 7 000 a month rent Daily Mail Online

Family on benefits move into 2 million home - Telegraph

UK Muslim refugee given 1.25m house in upmarket London street only to trash it The Muslim Issue

immigration what a joke Housing and schools )

Can you point me to a website where an immigrant can apply for his/her free six-bedroom house and free BMW?

The links that you have posted talk about special cases where bureaucracy failed to find housing for the applicants so the applicants took the matter into their own hands and found the housing on their own. According to the law at that time they were entitled to a maximum of £1,600 per week in benefits. Later on law changed and there is a cap of £400 per week. Anyone who is on welfare is entitle to those benefits. It has nothing to do with Muslim immigrants. Now, it is quite possible that Muslims may constitute a larger portion than any other group of welfare recipients in the UK but that is a different issue.

Unlike what the other guy is saying, it is not about people gaming the system. It is about people claiming their welfare benefits as they were entitled under the law. You need to read and comprehend the links you are posting. The problem here is your lack of knowledge not the immigrants.

Vik-----one of the issues in "benefits"----is a kind of HUGE family communal living arrangement ----and ALSO ---mulit-
wives arrangements that is rampant-----affecting those countries that have PER PERSON benefits. --------It can be
abused------in one of the states in which I once lived----there
came to be a law that a person ALREADY on welfare---who
became pregnant AGAIN----would not qualify for MORE
welfare benefits-------it was a huge controversy. Right now--even I am aware of specific cases of persons from muslim countries who have mutti wives spread over various
European countries that have especially good benefits for
"UNWED" mothers------there are lots of ways to scam
the "SYSTEMS" and once people become aware----they
get angry In the USA---an unwed woman with ten children on "food stamps-----would be entitled to something like. $1400 per month---just as a food allotment-----when
there are cases of muslims with four wives -----each with 10
kids claiming to be "unwed" and impoverished---people get upset (I refuse to tell you how I know about specific cases---but I do know)

 

[ThirdTerm]

Under the new system of Universal Credit, which will replace all mean-tested benefits from next year, polygamous marriages will not be recognised at all. Instead, a husband and one wife will claim as a couple – with any other adults living in the household claiming as single people.

Chris Grayling, the Employment Minister, said: "We currently have an absurd situation where polygamous marriages are outlawed in the UK but recognised in the benefits system because of a loophole. "This really has to change. We are now altering our systems as part of the introduction of Universal Credit, to put an end to a situation which only has the effect of undermining confidence in the benefits system." Under the 1988 Immigration Act, a man was "generally" banned from bringing a "second or subsequent wife" into Britain "if another woman is already living as his wife in the UK".

Ministers ban extra benefits for multiple wives - Telegraph

In a decision hailed as a rare outbreak of common sense, the European Court of Justice declared that national governments can crack down on benefit tourism. David Cameron last night said the ruling was a step in the right direction in his drive to cut immigration by curbing unrestricted freedom-of-movement for EU citizens.

The Luxembourg-based European Court of Justice, the highest legal body in the EU, made the ruling yesterday in a case involving a Romanian woman and her son who were denied benefits in Germany. She received child benefit and social security but her application for a subsistence allowance available to the unemployed in Germany was blocked. Officials argued that German law did not allow such handouts to be paid to EU citizens seeking work in the country. The judges said the woman should have had sufficient means of her own to reside in Germany as she was economically inactive. They added that domestic legislation can exclude EU nationals from benefits that are available to nationals of that country if they do not have a right of residence.

European judges rule migrants be refused benefits if they milk system UK News Daily Express