U.S. State Department: Israel is not a tolerant society

It is a specific and direct example of how the US WOULD respond to israel were israel were full of anything other than jews. Hell, we still recognized Germany as a sovereign nation while we were busy bombing the shit out of them in WW2 too. Your opinion fails on its face.

except we didn't recognize West Germany. We, the French, and British CREATED it.

Yea dude... we sure didn't put west germany on our maps in 1981.

:cuckoo:

Isn't it nice to live in a nation where you are no more or less equal in the eyes of the gov as whitey, Elvis? Gives you reasons to invest in our culture instead of rebuking and fighting against our gov, doesn't it?

you may want to research how the West German Mark and the NATION of West Germany were created. it prompted the Berlin Blockade.
 
so long, mental midgets. Keep up your "international law is meaningless, Israel has no right to exist, and Im not anti--Israel" pablam puke.
 
so long, mental midgets. Keep up your "international law is meaningless, Israel has no right to exist, and Im not anti--Israel" pablam puke.

Except troll, you take my points out of context. I'm saying all countries, not just Israel. So that is where you fail.

As I have just proven, International Law is useless if the current path continues.

And I'm not Anti-Israel.
 
Yea dude... we sure didn't put west germany on our maps in 1981.

:cuckoo:

Isn't it nice to live in a nation where you are no more or less equal in the eyes of the gov as whitey, Elvis? Gives you reasons to invest in our culture instead of rebuking and fighting against our gov, doesn't it?

World Map, 1981:

World Map 1981 by National Geographic from Maps.com -- World's Largest Map Store.

West and East Germany are both there.
pretty sure they were there in 1948.
 
Figures...Obama on the wrong side. What else is new?
 
Some countries ignore some international laws. Most countries adhere to most international law. As for your question about Africa- it is philosophically due, at least in part, to the belief many share with you that they noone has a right to live.

And THIS is my damn point. If SOME countries are allowed to ignore international laws, then those laws become meaningless because they are not enforced.

That is true in a domestic context, not so in an international one.


You can not have two sets of laws/standards on the global scale. And you can go fuck yourself, I never said anyone doesn't have the right to live.

True. You said you have the right to take anyone's life.

Those genocides in Africa are breaking International Law, YET you see NOTHING being done about it.

Its primarily a domestic issue, and its international implications are localized. You dont expect England to enforce our Immigration laws along the Texas/Mexico border, do you?
 
Its primarily a domestic issue, and its international implications are localized. You dont expect England to enforce our Immigration laws along the Texas/Mexico border, do you?

Well then why should we expect people to come to the aid of Israel?

Or why did we come to the aid of Jews during WWII?

Spoiler Alert: It was the right thing to do.

If countries like China, Russia, Iran, etc are not following International Laws then those laws are meaningless. Especially when two of those countries are on the Security Council.
 
The state department many times in its history have acted like a fourth branch of government, the bueacracy that wrote the report are unelected bueacrats who forge ahead under the own ideals.

Of course the state department is busy appeasing many people like Saudi Arabia, I am sure this report pleases the King of Saudi Arabia Obama bowed to.
 
U.S. State Department: Israel is not a tolerant society - Haaretz - Israel News

Israel dismally fails the requirements of a tolerant pluralistic society, according to a new report from the U.S. State Department.

Despite boasting religious freedom and protection of all holy sites, Israel falls short in tolerance toward minorities, equal treatment of ethnic groups, openness toward various streams within society, and respect for holy and other sites.

The comprehensive report, written by the State Department's Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, says Israel discriminates against groups including Muslims, Jehova's Witnesses, Reform Jews, Christians, women and Bedouin.

The report says that the 1967 law on the protection of holy places refers to all religious groups in the country, including in Jerusalem, but "the government implements regulations only for Jewish sites. Non-Jewish holy sites do not enjoy legal protection under it because the government does not recognize them as official holy sites."

At the end of 2008, for example, all of the 137 officially recognized holy sites were Jewish. Moreover, Israel issued regulations for the identification, preservation and guarding of Jewish sites only. Many Christian and Muslim sites are said to be neglected, inaccessible or at risk of exploitation by real estate entrepreneurs and local authorities.

And the kicker:

The report makes it clear that practices that have become routine in Israel are considered unacceptable in enlightened countries and should be corrected.

Among other examples, the report notes that more than 300,000 immigrants who are not considered Jewish under rabbinical law are not allowed to marry and divorce in Israel or be buried in Jewish cemeteries.

You know, we have a word for this in the United States. Whoever can say the word I'm thinking of gets some rep.


Whoever said Israelis have to be tolerant to other peoples? Wouldn't that kind of fly in the face of the idea of Zionism itself? Do we really need a State Department report to state the obvious?
 
Of course Israel fails tests of social tolerance. And yes, being surrounded by a shitton of hostile neighbors is primary driver of that.
 
Of course Israel fails tests of social tolerance. And yes, being surrounded by a shitton of hostile neighbors is primary driver of that.

Thats why the Temple Mount is administered by Arabs, right? And why Israeli Arabs have their own parties and sit in the Knesset, right? And why Muslims, Christians and Druze all have their own agencies, right? Unlike their neighbors in say Syria or Jordan where there is no oppression or disenfranchisement, right?
You are an ill informed tool. At best.
 
I wonder if the fact that they are surrounded by enemies has anything to do with that.
It certainly does.
Racism, even when motivated by survival, is an ugly facet of human behavior.
It is ugly because it gets out of hand. What begins as checkpoints for those most likely to be problems, morphs into harassment of everyone who does not fit in. That Israel is surrounded by Islamic states with even less tolerance of outsiders is not justification for their own behavior. Israel needs a line beyond which they refuse to step, but it is probably not a realistic expectation - their political leaders are as subject to short sighted voting pressures as those in the US and too many Israeli citizens have lost family members to Islamic terrorists for all those families to forgive the ethnic group from which their pain arose. Those citizens create pressure on politicians to "do something" and the politicians respond typically, which is to say with hasty ill conceived action.

Perhaps if the Palestinians were to stop the terrorists who make these attacks something could change, but until then Israel is unlikely to act unilaterally.
 
I wonder if the fact that they are surrounded by enemies has anything to do with that.
It certainly does.
Racism, even when motivated by survival, is an ugly facet of human behavior.
It is ugly because it gets out of hand. What begins as checkpoints for those most likely to be problems, morphs into harassment of everyone who does not fit in. That Israel is surrounded by Islamic states with even less tolerance of outsiders is not justification for their own behavior. Israel needs a line beyond which they refuse to step, but it is probably not a realistic expectation - their political leaders are as subject to short sighted voting pressures as those in the US and too many Israeli citizens have lost family members to Islamic terrorists for all those families to forgive the ethnic group from which their pain arose. Those citizens create pressure on politicians to "do something" and the politicians respond typically, which is to say with hasty ill conceived action.

Perhaps if the Palestinians were to stop the terrorists who make these attacks something could change, but until then Israel is unlikely to act unilaterally.

No, they do not. A nation whose existence is threatened should, and will, fight tooth and nail for their survival.

your point about the Palestininas is 100% accurate. Israel can do nothing to become more "tolerant" until the dunerats stop attacking.
 
Of course Israel fails tests of social tolerance. And yes, being surrounded by a shitton of hostile neighbors is primary driver of that.

yea... that and the rationalized excuses which allow israel to put a premium on being jewish. We all know how jews would tolerate being treated like Palis in America. Ironically, ethnic equality is a necessity HERE but not in zion. Quite telling. If white America behaved like Jewish isreal we'd still have race riots. Clearly, what is good for the goyim goose is not required of the jewish gander.
 

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