Two indicators that Obama may have 2012 in the bag

[Cuyo]

Barack Obama hasn't done jack shit for me.

Interesting. What have the Republicans done for you?

For myself, it seems like the Repubs have caused more harm than good. IMO.

I think both parties are to blame for a lot of the mess.

For instance, if I had to list ONE THING that is causing most of our problems, it would be free trade.

Sending our manufacturing overseas, making American workers have to compete with people working in unsafe conditions, driving down wages, driving up unemployment, and sucking half a trillion out of our economy every year. Not to mention, turning China from a backward country with too many people into the second largest economy in the world.

Why would anyone think this was a good idea?

Oh, yeah, they all do. Because talking against free trade is political suicide.

They know the owners of this country have certain expectations of their lap-dogs.

 

[FuelRod]

One indicator he doesn't.

 

[JoeB131]

*10 Reasons Obama Won’t Win Reelection.

1. *Jobless rate too high: *

2. *Economy in doldrums: *

3. *ObamaCare looms: *

4. *Out-of-control debt and credit downgrade: *

5. *Depressed base:*

6. *Opposition energized: *

7. *Changes in battleground states: *

8. *Foreign policy mess:*

9. *Media less a adoring: *

10. *Aloof, inept: *

Top 10 Reasons Obama Won’t Win Reelection - HUMAN EVENTS

Well, I guess Human Events should rename itself "Happy Place".

Let's get real here. The economy and unemployment are in better shape than they were a year ago. So that dispenses with points 1 and 2.

3. Obamacare looms. Well, yeah. Kind of hard to make that argument if you run Romney, though. He invented it.

4. Probably a valid point.

5. Not that I'm seeing, really.

6. If the GOP is energized, why is primary participation DOWN from 4 years ago?

7. Irrelevent. All he has to do to win is carry every state Kerry did and either Florida or Ohio.

8. Not really. Bin Laden is dead, we are out of Iraq. Qadaffi is taking a dirt nap.

9. not so much.

10. Probably.

 

[Toro]

And yet, the GOP appears to be turning to a candidate whose core will likely make those points irrelevant.

If Santorum is nominated and loses, I wonder if conservatives will blame his loss on not really being conservative?

NO, we'll blame it on what it should be blamed on. He was a weak candidate who ran in a field of weak candidates against an incumbant.

Just like if Romney loses to Obama, you wont accept any of the blame, either.

First of all, you're not a conservative, so cut the "we" crap, uber-RINO.

But hyper-partisan conservatives - like all hyper-partisan ideologues - drone on about how "if we only had a REAL conservative running, we would win." So if Santorum wins the nomination, I'm betting that the drones will blame their loss on Santorum not being conservative enough.

 

[Cuyo]

I didnt realize Barack Obama was president in the 1930s.
You know that if Roosevelt hadn't pushed a bunch of socialist programs the country would have recovered within 18 months and your daddy could go back to cleaning spittoons in bar rooms, right?

Obama has done nothing for anyone who isn't a union thug. Look at black unemployment. Look at black teenage unemployment. Those at the bottom of the working rung have had that rung pulled out from under them as regulations and rising min wage requirements have zapped their jobs. Now they are doomed to be welfare dependents.

Your naivity is only exceeded by your goddam ignorance.

Translation: He sure is right but darned I can't admit that.
Thanks!

Nope, that's not what I read into it.

Hey dopey, remember when that idiot Perry was in the lead for like 15 minutes?

 

[Cuyo]

One indicator he doesn't.

Quite possibly true, but that blame would be misplaced.

 

[JoeB131]

First of all, you're not a conservative, so cut the "we" crap, uber-RINO.

But hyper-partisan conservatives - like all hyper-partisan ideologues - drone on about how "if we only had a REAL conservative running, we would win." So if Santorum wins the nomination, I'm betting that the drones will blame their loss on Santorum not being conservative enough.

I think the word "Conservative" became effectively meaningless five minutes after Ann Coulter endorsed health insurance mandates... if it wasn't already over when Republicans voted to bail out the Banksters.

So, really, I know you are feeling the butt-hurt right now. Romney spends all this corporate blood money, and he's losing to a guy who was carrying his own luggage back in December. That must really BURN.

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[Cuyo]

Start here...2012 Presidential Election Interactive Map and History of the Electoral College

From that map, I gave the Republicans MO, IA, OH, VA, NC and FL.

That's 272.

They're letting you divvy up those electoral college votes? How do I get in on that?

 

[Cuyo]

If we are still talking about contraception in November, Obama will win.

Now THAT I believe he played beautifully. Let the light of day shine on the issue and watch them hang themselves on all this archaic social con harangue. The hysterical thing about it is they have no clue just how out of touch they are.

 

[Toro]

First of all, you're not a conservative, so cut the "we" crap, uber-RINO.

But hyper-partisan conservatives - like all hyper-partisan ideologues - drone on about how "if we only had a REAL conservative running, we would win." So if Santorum wins the nomination, I'm betting that the drones will blame their loss on Santorum not being conservative enough.

I think the word "Conservative" became effectively meaningless five minutes after Ann Coulter endorsed health insurance mandates... if it wasn't already over when Republicans voted to bail out the Banksters.

So, really, I know you are feeling the butt-hurt right now. Romney spends all this corporate blood money, and he's losing to a guy who was carrying his own luggage back in December. That must really BURN.

No, it doesn't. Romney is the best of a bad bunch running against a bad President. And he has done poorly lately. As I've said before, it doesn't much matter to me, but I sure as heck know it matters to you! Maybe if Romney wins, you can put "President of the United States" on your list of Mormons you won't do business with.







Oh, and I forgot - "Ampad!"

 

[Cuyo]

My father fought in WWII at 17, admired FDR but preferred Truman. Still, the WPA, CCC, and other programs kept us together. Calling the man who saved the US from Marxism/Fascism and perhaps civil war an idiot is sad. He always ranks among the greatest Presidents when historians are polled. Government grows because WE all demand THINGS; without interstate highways, DEFENSE, and FEMA, we could have a smaller government. But with 300 million people it will never be as it was 100 years ago. I live in Florida with a conservative governor, Rick Scott. Before him, two terms of Jeb! No less regulation, in fact, more and more rules, regs, and policies.

Actually, FDR enabled Marxism. It was confined to just the USSR when he took over and had most of Europe and Asia by the time he was done.

And frankly, I'm kind of with Pat Buchanan. The goings on in Europe really weren't any of our business.

Yeah, I guess my dad had a different view, considering the poor man had screaming nightmares thanks to the war for the rest of his life. (He was at Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge). I guess he didn't feel really grateful to the man who put him into the middle of that for some reason.

But to the point, the government should just pay private contractors to do most of those things, and the lowest bidder. But they like having an army of people waiting for the check. Especially the ones who don't do anything for that check.

Work Harder, millions on Welfare depend on you!

And now you just took a right turn into crazy town.

 

[JoeB131]

No, it doesn't. Romney is the best of a bad bunch running against a bad President. And he has done poorly lately. As I've said before, it doesn't much matter to me, but I sure as heck know it matters to you! Maybe if Romney wins, you can put "President of the United States" on your list of Mormons you won't do business with.

Oh, and I forgot - "Ampad!"

ROmney will never be president, I'm just upset I'm going to have to spend the next 9 months talking about why he's failing...

Of course, it might be over if he loses Michigan and Arizona.

 

[Toro]

My father fought in WWII at 17, admired FDR but preferred Truman. Still, the WPA, CCC, and other programs kept us together. Calling the man who saved the US from Marxism/Fascism and perhaps civil war an idiot is sad. He always ranks among the greatest Presidents when historians are polled. Government grows because WE all demand THINGS; without interstate highways, DEFENSE, and FEMA, we could have a smaller government. But with 300 million people it will never be as it was 100 years ago. I live in Florida with a conservative governor, Rick Scott. Before him, two terms of Jeb! No less regulation, in fact, more and more rules, regs, and policies.

Actually, FDR enabled Marxism. It was confined to just the USSR when he took over and had most of Europe and Asia by the time he was done.

And frankly, I'm kind of with Pat Buchanan. The goings on in Europe really weren't any of our business.

Yeah, I guess my dad had a different view, considering the poor man had screaming nightmares thanks to the war for the rest of his life. (He was at Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge). I guess he didn't feel really grateful to the man who put him into the middle of that for some reason.

But to the point, the government should just pay private contractors to do most of those things, and the lowest bidder. But they like having an army of people waiting for the check. Especially the ones who don't do anything for that check.

Work Harder, millions on Welfare depend on you!

And now you just took a right turn into crazy town.

Yeah, FDR "enabled Marxism." lol

JoeAmpad is confused. Who should he emulate, Naomi Klein or the John Birch Society?

 

[JoeB131]

My father fought in WWII at 17, admired FDR but preferred Truman. Still, the WPA, CCC, and other programs kept us together. Calling the man who saved the US from Marxism/Fascism and perhaps civil war an idiot is sad. He always ranks among the greatest Presidents when historians are polled. Government grows because WE all demand THINGS; without interstate highways, DEFENSE, and FEMA, we could have a smaller government. But with 300 million people it will never be as it was 100 years ago. I live in Florida with a conservative governor, Rick Scott. Before him, two terms of Jeb! No less regulation, in fact, more and more rules, regs, and policies.

Actually, FDR enabled Marxism. It was confined to just the USSR when he took over and had most of Europe and Asia by the time he was done.

And frankly, I'm kind of with Pat Buchanan. The goings on in Europe really weren't any of our business.

Yeah, I guess my dad had a different view, considering the poor man had screaming nightmares thanks to the war for the rest of his life. (He was at Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge). I guess he didn't feel really grateful to the man who put him into the middle of that for some reason.

But to the point, the government should just pay private contractors to do most of those things, and the lowest bidder. But they like having an army of people waiting for the check. Especially the ones who don't do anything for that check.

Work Harder, millions on Welfare depend on you!

And now you just took a right turn into crazy town.

Nope, just not seeing how a war in Europe was any of our business.

Germany didn't have a Navy- or much of one. We did. FDR wanted to get Hitler, but he didn't NEED to get Hitler.

 

[Toro]

No, it doesn't. Romney is the best of a bad bunch running against a bad President. And he has done poorly lately. As I've said before, it doesn't much matter to me, but I sure as heck know it matters to you! Maybe if Romney wins, you can put "President of the United States" on your list of Mormons you won't do business with.

Oh, and I forgot - "Ampad!"

ROmney will never be president, I'm just upset I'm going to have to spend the next 9 months talking about why he's failing...

Of course, it might be over if he loses Michigan and Arizona.

Why? Do you plan to shoot him before his inauguration?

 

[Toro]

Actually, FDR enabled Marxism. It was confined to just the USSR when he took over and had most of Europe and Asia by the time he was done.

And frankly, I'm kind of with Pat Buchanan. The goings on in Europe really weren't any of our business.

Yeah, I guess my dad had a different view, considering the poor man had screaming nightmares thanks to the war for the rest of his life. (He was at Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge). I guess he didn't feel really grateful to the man who put him into the middle of that for some reason.

But to the point, the government should just pay private contractors to do most of those things, and the lowest bidder. But they like having an army of people waiting for the check. Especially the ones who don't do anything for that check.

Work Harder, millions on Welfare depend on you!

And now you just took a right turn into crazy town.

Nope, just not seeing how a war in Europe was any of our business.

Germany didn't have a Navy- or much of one. We did. FDR wanted to get Hitler, but he didn't NEED to get Hitler.

And that's how FDR enabled Marxism.

Too bad Hitler wasn't gassing Mormons, eh?

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, FDR "enabled Marxism." lol

JoeAmpad is confused. Who should he emulate, Naomi Klein or the John Birch Society?

No confusion at all.

Before the war, Marxism only had Russia.

After the war, it had Poland, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, East Germany, Bulgaria, Albania, was making inroads into Greece, had a large working Army in China, North Korea...

Because FDR just had to save Stalin.

Even FDR's apologists try to claim that Stalin duped him or tricked him.

 

[JoeB131]

And now you just took a right turn into crazy town.

Nope, just not seeing how a war in Europe was any of our business.

Germany didn't have a Navy- or much of one. We did. FDR wanted to get Hitler, but he didn't NEED to get Hitler.

And that's how FDR enabled Marxism.

Too bad Hitler wasn't gassing Mormons, eh?

HItler and Stalin were determined to kill each other.

Why is that our problem?

Iran and Israel want to kill each other.

Why is that our problem.

I mean, here's a concept. Before we get into a war, tell me why it's OUR problem.

 

[Toro]

Nope, just not seeing how a war in Europe was any of our business.

Germany didn't have a Navy- or much of one. We did. FDR wanted to get Hitler, but he didn't NEED to get Hitler.

And that's how FDR enabled Marxism.

Too bad Hitler wasn't gassing Mormons, eh?

HItler and Stalin were determined to kill each other.

Why is that our problem?

Iran and Israel want to kill each other.

Why is that our problem.

I mean, here's a concept. Before we get into a war, tell me why it's OUR problem.

Nice deflection. You said he enabled Marxism. That presumes the Nazis would have conquered Moscow and Stalingrad, and the Russians wouldn't have overrun Eastern Europe to create client states as buffers against German invasions which killed millions of Russians, and Mao wouldn't have overrun China.

By your logic, Reagan enabled 9/11 because he funded the Islamists in Afghanistan.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He dominates the social media:

The commander-in-tweet has more than 25 million Facebook likes and upwards of 12.5 million Twitter followers -- significantly more than any of his Republican competitors. According to this infographic shown on Mashable, Romney and Newt tie for second, with Ron Paul, Rick Santorum and late-to-the-game Libertarian Gary Johnson trailing, in that order

Obama is winning the social vote by a landslide - msnNOW


Here is a prediction of the electoral vote. Obama wins 303 to 235:

Obama poised to win 2012 election with 303 electoral votes: The Signal Forecast | The Signal - Yahoo! News


Does all this mean for sure that Obama will win the election? No, but it is something for Obama supporters to be happy about for the time being.

Republicans=Support For Corporations, Bible Thumpers And The Wealthy
Democrats =Support For Civil Rights And Ordinary Americans

You're an idiot if you don't think obama and the democrats supports corporations hell they bailed them out and Dodd made sure the CEO's kept their bonus.