Trump falsely claims nearly 3,000 Americans in Puerto Rico 'did not die'

I've ignored this so far but can not longer let these lies pass.

Trump, Scientism, and Puerto Rico

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Oh really? 3,000 dead due to Hurricane Maria. Prove it!

In other words, to estimate, the experts first had to . . . you guessed it . . . estimate. Then they had to guess how many people might have left Puerto Rico—another estimate. Moreover, the total estimates are based on information from September 2017 to February 2018—five months! Worse still, they admit they cannot establish any actual causality for the estimated number of deaths. They had to estimate it!

No death certificates. No burial numbers. And with everyone having electronic devices, where are the personal stories of all these deaths?

Trump makes the only sane claim: we don’t really know how many people died as a result of the hurricane, but it is awfully suspicious that the numbers went up so dramatically only to be used as a cudgel in our hyperpartisan debate. This seems both factually correct and commonsensical. But a large segment of the population, including most of the “highly educated,” believed Trump has denied science because there exist charts that make different claims.

More of the farce @ Trump, Scientism, and Puerto Rico

The Democrats And The Media Are Lying About Hurricane Deaths In Puerto Rico… @ The Democrats And The Media Are Lying About Hurricane Deaths In Puerto Rico...
 
FEMA delivered the goods to the runway. And? Did the government let it rot, or was the absence of roads, bridges, and equipment where the ball was dropped? Take a wild guess?

Folks are explaining, but dumb asses like you aren't answering.


Again, FEMA is a relief agency, they provide supplies. They are not the government of Puerto Rico.

Where was Rossello with the billions in aid that has been provided to the Island? Why is Puerto Rico a third world shit hole when America has pumped billions and billions into it for decades?

Well, we all know. The money that we give to Puerto Rico goes into the pockets of crooks like Rossello.

But the question remains, did Rossello delibertely block the distribution of the FEMA aid that was put in his lap - that he and the Marxist press of LIED ABOUT for over a year, because he was attempting to sell the supplies?

Why did the NY Times lie that goods were not provided? Why has the Marxist press HIDDEN the fact that the relief goods were there all along? Why did it take a free lance photographer stumbling across the hidden supplies to bring to light the massive lies and cover up by the DNC controlled Marxist press?

WTP is a Trump-hating media zombie who thinks slinging insults and calling people with different perspectives “retards” makes him a great debater. Best leave him to his fantasyland and save yourself of the time it takes to try and instill reason into the unreasonable.
 
LOL I don’t know why I’m even trying with you. It’s evident you’ll cling to your precious CNN article and call anything I provide bullshit and I’ve no interest in completely wasting my time. You don’t understand that most of the mainstream media plays partisan politics and this has been intensified tenfold in the wake of Trump’s victory. And you, just like many people from both sides, only believe stories from outlets that echo your sentiment. The outlets that haven’t made it their mission to destroy Trump, you’re not going to believe bc they don’t wish to destroy Trump like you do so they MUST be wrong, right?

If you knew what I knew, could see what I’ve seen—numerous crafty “journalists” spinning stories to promote a certain narrative, you’d question everything you’ve read no matter what it’s about or who it’s trying to bash or protect. Much of the time I have the ability to isolate instances of deceit within a news piece and even one instance is too much, making whatever “information” provided therein worthless.

Do you know how maddening it is to, time and time again, spot out-and-out LIES disguised as truth and know there are tens of thousands of people who are going to fall for it?


Without lies and fake news these stupid Moon Bats have nothing.

That is why it is better to just ridicule them rather than try to educate them. They are not educable. If they were they wouldn't be Liberals.
The intellectual bankruptcy is on display in living color here folks. They can't even explain how those pallets were going to get from point A to point B. Lol! Maybe if they had thrown enough paper towels on top of those pallets, the great roads, bridges, and equipment that didn't exist then, would have gotten those pallets of water to their destination? And it was a great success according to Trump. What a bunch of friggin idiots.


Did you Communist deliberately block the delivery of food, water, and medicine to the people of Puerto Rico, which FEMA delivered? Was Rossello attempting to sell the supplies to enrich himself?
-------------------------------- i don't think that 'rosello' is a crook , think that it was everyone around him that was the crook and hinderer of anything TRUMP tried to do . Sure the roads were out but there was no TEAM of 'pr' workers and authorities except for teams working against the TRUMP . I think the enemies or crooks that hindered were the 'pr' mayors and others or many in any position of power or authority .

Rossello is on the level of Idi Amin or Baby Doc in his gross embezzlement.

Puerto Rico, despite being an American territory, runs as a banana republic of open corruption and graft.

https://nypost.com/2017/09/30/inept-puerto-rican-government-riddled-with-corruption-ceo/
Puerto Rico’s Untold Tale of Corruption
Puerto Rico was a disaster long before Maria ravaged the island
Stupidity won't help you.
 
President Trump merely quoted the Puerto Rico governor. Where did George Washington U come up with the figures?

Those are projected numbers, expected deaths as per computer model.

Since it was expected for that many to die, why not to claim they died and make Trump to look bad.

The same model was used to project that Trump will be responsible for 80,000 deaths in the next decade. If they really want him to look bad, they should've said he's gonna be responsible for death of 800,000 in next hundred years. You see, he's almost like a Hitler.
More disguised dumb ass arguments just to make excuses for a failed operation. Trump made himself look bad by tossing out paper towels, when he should have been telling FEMA, that dumping off supplies at a runway with no way to get those supplies to the people is worth nothing. We need infrastructure, and equipment asap. But no! His shitty attitude and the pitiful paper towel toss is as far as he was going to go. That is why 3,000 people died.

What exactly has failed?

Please explain, what FEMA was required to do that they failed to do, and how Trump, or even Congress are responsible for Puerto Rico rotten infrastructure (power grid, water, sewer, etc)?
Sending supplies dumped off on a runway where no infrastructure or equipment exists, is a logistical disaster. And who is responsible for coordinating that effort again? Who would be responsible for knowing and understanding those limitations again? Take a wild guess? If the military decides to launch an invasion on a beach head, but there is no beach, who are the one's who would have screwed that up? Did FEMA and Trump sit down and talk about PR's limitations, while you blame PR for their limitations? You are using obvious excuses for a failed exercise in basic disaster operations.
 
FEMA delivered the goods to the runway. And? Did the government let it rot, or was the absence of roads, bridges, and equipment where the ball was dropped? Take a wild guess?

Folks are explaining, but dumb asses like you aren't answering.


Again, FEMA is a relief agency, they provide supplies. They are not the government of Puerto Rico.

Where was Rossello with the billions in aid that has been provided to the Island? Why is Puerto Rico a third world shit hole when America has pumped billions and billions into it for decades?

Well, we all know. The money that we give to Puerto Rico goes into the pockets of crooks like Rossello.

But the question remains, did Rossello delibertely block the distribution of the FEMA aid that was put in his lap - that he and the Marxist press of LIED ABOUT for over a year, because he was attempting to sell the supplies?

Why did the NY Times lie that goods were not provided? Why has the Marxist press HIDDEN the fact that the relief goods were there all along? Why did it take a free lance photographer stumbling across the hidden supplies to bring to light the massive lies and cover up by the DNC controlled Marxist press?

WTP is a Trump-hating media zombie who thinks slinging insults and calling people with different perspectives “retards” makes him a great debater. Best leave him to his fantasyland and save yourself of the time it takes to try and instill reason into the unreasonable.
You're right. I do hate liars. Especially the fake one's in charge.
 
Of those 3,000 I wonder how many died of natural causes. Looking at the death rate I would suggest that most if not all died naturally some from accident, some from drugs. Anyone have the real numbers?

Those ARE the real numbers - the OFFICIAL numbers from now until eternity.
And there is nothing you or the Orange Clown can do about it :)
They haven't quite finished making idiots out of themselves yet.

They'll be finished at that task somewhere around - - - > NEVER. :)
 
Without lies and fake news these stupid Moon Bats have nothing.

That is why it is better to just ridicule them rather than try to educate them. They are not educable. If they were they wouldn't be Liberals.
The intellectual bankruptcy is on display in living color here folks. They can't even explain how those pallets were going to get from point A to point B. Lol! Maybe if they had thrown enough paper towels on top of those pallets, the great roads, bridges, and equipment that didn't exist then, would have gotten those pallets of water to their destination? And it was a great success according to Trump. What a bunch of friggin idiots.


Did you Communist deliberately block the delivery of food, water, and medicine to the people of Puerto Rico, which FEMA delivered? Was Rossello attempting to sell the supplies to enrich himself?
-------------------------------- i don't think that 'rosello' is a crook , think that it was everyone around him that was the crook and hinderer of anything TRUMP tried to do . Sure the roads were out but there was no TEAM of 'pr' workers and authorities except for teams working against the TRUMP . I think the enemies or crooks that hindered were the 'pr' mayors and others or many in any position of power or authority .

Rossello is on the level of Idi Amin or Baby Doc in his gross embezzlement.

Puerto Rico, despite being an American territory, runs as a banana republic of open corruption and graft.

https://nypost.com/2017/09/30/inept-puerto-rican-government-riddled-with-corruption-ceo/
Puerto Rico’s Untold Tale of Corruption
Puerto Rico was a disaster long before Maria ravaged the island
Stupidity won't help you.


Ah, cited facts are "stupid." :thup:

You're a good Communist, you have been trained to violently reject information.

The party will tell you what you need to know, beyond that you are merely an ox, you pull for your masters and never have a thought.
 
Trump stripped Hispanic families of their children. Then he stood by and watched as thousands died in Puerto Rico.

Trump really really hates Hispanics. If this doesn’t get them out to vote nothing will.
 
President Trump merely quoted the Puerto Rico governor. Where did George Washington U come up with the figures?

Those are projected numbers, expected deaths as per computer model.

Since it was expected for that many to die, why not to claim they died and make Trump to look bad.

The same model was used to project that Trump will be responsible for 80,000 deaths in the next decade. If they really want him to look bad, they should've said he's gonna be responsible for death of 800,000 in next hundred years. You see, he's almost like a Hitler.
More disguised dumb ass arguments just to make excuses for a failed operation. Trump made himself look bad by tossing out paper towels, when he should have been telling FEMA, that dumping off supplies at a runway with no way to get those supplies to the people is worth nothing. We need infrastructure, and equipment asap. But no! His shitty attitude and the pitiful paper towel toss is as far as he was going to go. That is why 3,000 people died.

What exactly has failed?

Please explain, what FEMA was required to do that they failed to do, and how Trump, or even Congress are responsible for Puerto Rico rotten infrastructure (power grid, water, sewer, etc)?
Sending supplies dumped off on a runway where no infrastructure or equipment exists, is a logistical disaster. And who is responsible for coordinating that effort again? Who would be responsible for knowing and understanding those limitations again? Take a wild guess? If the military decides to launch an invasion on a beach head, but there is no beach, who are the one's who would have screwed that up? Did FEMA and Trump sit down and talk about PR's limitations, while you blame PR for their limitations? You are using obvious excuses for a failed exercise in basic disaster operations.


There is no infrastructure in San Juan? Damn, a century of American territory status and over a trillion dollars in inflation adjusted aid over that time, and no infrastructure? What happened to all the money?

Oh and Comrade? Where are the names of the dead? Where are they buried?

I mean, they DO exist outside of a computer model, don't they?

WAIT, here is one of the victims.

iu
 
FEMA delivered the goods to the runway. And? Did the government let it rot, or was the absence of roads, bridges, and equipment where the ball was dropped? Take a wild guess?

Folks are explaining, but dumb asses like you aren't answering.


Again, FEMA is a relief agency, they provide supplies. They are not the government of Puerto Rico.

Where was Rossello with the billions in aid that has been provided to the Island? Why is Puerto Rico a third world shit hole when America has pumped billions and billions into it for decades?

Well, we all know. The money that we give to Puerto Rico goes into the pockets of crooks like Rossello.

But the question remains, did Rossello delibertely block the distribution of the FEMA aid that was put in his lap - that he and the Marxist press of LIED ABOUT for over a year, because he was attempting to sell the supplies?

Why did the NY Times lie that goods were not provided? Why has the Marxist press HIDDEN the fact that the relief goods were there all along? Why did it take a free lance photographer stumbling across the hidden supplies to bring to light the massive lies and cover up by the DNC controlled Marxist press?

WTP is a Trump-hating media zombie who thinks slinging insults and calling people with different perspectives “retards” makes him a great debater. Best leave him to his fantasyland and save yourself of the time it takes to try and instill reason into the unreasonable.

Hmmmm - Okay :rolleyes:

Yeah that’s why she’s a judge. Plenty of retarded people are judges LOL

What really makes me wanna :102: is the fact that those celebrating Infowars censorship are the same people who are supposedly so afraid of fascism taking over. I’m seriously saddened that people are this retarded. Also every time Trump threatens to shut down the media here those same people come whining about him being a threat to democracy, yet when big corporations silence a right-wing source they think it’s the best thing ever?
 
FEMA delivered the goods to the runway. And? Did the government let it rot, or was the absence of roads, bridges, and equipment where the ball was dropped? Take a wild guess?

Folks are explaining, but dumb asses like you aren't answering.


Again, FEMA is a relief agency, they provide supplies. They are not the government of Puerto Rico.

Where was Rossello with the billions in aid that has been provided to the Island? Why is Puerto Rico a third world shit hole when America has pumped billions and billions into it for decades?

Well, we all know. The money that we give to Puerto Rico goes into the pockets of crooks like Rossello.

But the question remains, did Rossello delibertely block the distribution of the FEMA aid that was put in his lap - that he and the Marxist press of LIED ABOUT for over a year, because he was attempting to sell the supplies?

Why did the NY Times lie that goods were not provided? Why has the Marxist press HIDDEN the fact that the relief goods were there all along? Why did it take a free lance photographer stumbling across the hidden supplies to bring to light the massive lies and cover up by the DNC controlled Marxist press?

WTP is a Trump-hating media zombie who thinks slinging insults and calling people with different perspectives “retards” makes him a great debater. Best leave him to his fantasyland and save yourself of the time it takes to try and instill reason into the unreasonable.

Hmmmm - Okay :rolleyes:

Yeah that’s why she’s a judge. Plenty of retarded people are judges LOL

What really makes me wanna :102: is the fact that those celebrating Infowars censorship are the same people who are supposedly so afraid of fascism taking over. I’m seriously saddened that people are this retarded. Also every time Trump threatens to shut down the media here those same people come whining about him being a threat to democracy, yet when big corporations silence a right-wing source they think it’s the best thing ever?


Seriously DeRpHate, you are a Marxist zombie.

You just spew whatever the hate sites put up on any given day. A drone mindlessly serving the collective.
 
FEMA delivered the goods to the runway. And? Did the government let it rot, or was the absence of roads, bridges, and equipment where the ball was dropped? Take a wild guess?

Folks are explaining, but dumb asses like you aren't answering.


Again, FEMA is a relief agency, they provide supplies. They are not the government of Puerto Rico.

Where was Rossello with the billions in aid that has been provided to the Island? Why is Puerto Rico a third world shit hole when America has pumped billions and billions into it for decades?

Well, we all know. The money that we give to Puerto Rico goes into the pockets of crooks like Rossello.

But the question remains, did Rossello delibertely block the distribution of the FEMA aid that was put in his lap - that he and the Marxist press of LIED ABOUT for over a year, because he was attempting to sell the supplies?

Why did the NY Times lie that goods were not provided? Why has the Marxist press HIDDEN the fact that the relief goods were there all along? Why did it take a free lance photographer stumbling across the hidden supplies to bring to light the massive lies and cover up by the DNC controlled Marxist press?

WTP is a Trump-hating media zombie who thinks slinging insults and calling people with different perspectives “retards” makes him a great debater. Best leave him to his fantasyland and save yourself of the time it takes to try and instill reason into the unreasonable.

Hmmmm - Okay :rolleyes:

Yeah that’s why she’s a judge. Plenty of retarded people are judges LOL

What really makes me wanna :102: is the fact that those celebrating Infowars censorship are the same people who are supposedly so afraid of fascism taking over. I’m seriously saddened that people are this retarded. Also every time Trump threatens to shut down the media here those same people come whining about him being a threat to democracy, yet when big corporations silence a right-wing source they think it’s the best thing ever?


Seriously DeRpHate, you are a Marxist zombie.

You just spew whatever the hate sites put up on any given day. A drone mindlessly serving the collective.

My post had nothing to do with "hate sites" and everything to do with H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y
 
President Trump merely quoted the Puerto Rico governor. Where did George Washington U come up with the figures?

Those are projected numbers, expected deaths as per computer model.

Since it was expected for that many to die, why not to claim they died and make Trump to look bad.

The same model was used to project that Trump will be responsible for 80,000 deaths in the next decade. If they really want him to look bad, they should've said he's gonna be responsible for death of 800,000 in next hundred years. You see, he's almost like a Hitler.
More disguised dumb ass arguments just to make excuses for a failed operation. Trump made himself look bad by tossing out paper towels, when he should have been telling FEMA, that dumping off supplies at a runway with no way to get those supplies to the people is worth nothing. We need infrastructure, and equipment asap. But no! His shitty attitude and the pitiful paper towel toss is as far as he was going to go. That is why 3,000 people died.

What exactly has failed?

Please explain, what FEMA was required to do that they failed to do, and how Trump, or even Congress are responsible for Puerto Rico rotten infrastructure (power grid, water, sewer, etc)?
Sending supplies dumped off on a runway where no infrastructure or equipment exists, is a logistical disaster. And who is responsible for coordinating that effort again? Who would be responsible for knowing and understanding those limitations again? Take a wild guess? If the military decides to launch an invasion on a beach head, but there is no beach, who are the one's who would have screwed that up? Did FEMA and Trump sit down and talk about PR's limitations, while you blame PR for their limitations? You are using obvious excuses for a failed exercise in basic disaster operations.


There is no infrastructure in San Juan? Damn, a century of American territory status and over a trillion dollars in inflation adjusted aid over that time, and no infrastructure? What happened to all the money?

Oh and Comrade? Where are the names of the dead? Where are they buried?

I mean, they DO exist outside of a computer model, don't they?

WAIT, here is one of the victims.

iu
Do you know what infrastructure is? Lol! I'm dealing with a total dumb ass. Here's a hint dumbo, it isn't a statue.
 
Last month it was widely reported the death toll was around 1400. Now it's absolutely definitely 3000. These reports are written to influence how much rebuilding money is appropriated and for what purpose. More dead, more money. Sad, but true. Trump is going to say what he wants for his reasons and the other side is going to be morally outraged for theirs. Just another day in the 24hr meaningless news cycle.
 
Those are projected numbers, expected deaths as per computer model.

Since it was expected for that many to die, why not to claim they died and make Trump to look bad.

The same model was used to project that Trump will be responsible for 80,000 deaths in the next decade. If they really want him to look bad, they should've said he's gonna be responsible for death of 800,000 in next hundred years. You see, he's almost like a Hitler.
More disguised dumb ass arguments just to make excuses for a failed operation. Trump made himself look bad by tossing out paper towels, when he should have been telling FEMA, that dumping off supplies at a runway with no way to get those supplies to the people is worth nothing. We need infrastructure, and equipment asap. But no! His shitty attitude and the pitiful paper towel toss is as far as he was going to go. That is why 3,000 people died.

What exactly has failed?

Please explain, what FEMA was required to do that they failed to do, and how Trump, or even Congress are responsible for Puerto Rico rotten infrastructure (power grid, water, sewer, etc)?
Sending supplies dumped off on a runway where no infrastructure or equipment exists, is a logistical disaster. And who is responsible for coordinating that effort again? Who would be responsible for knowing and understanding those limitations again? Take a wild guess? If the military decides to launch an invasion on a beach head, but there is no beach, who are the one's who would have screwed that up? Did FEMA and Trump sit down and talk about PR's limitations, while you blame PR for their limitations? You are using obvious excuses for a failed exercise in basic disaster operations.


There is no infrastructure in San Juan? Damn, a century of American territory status and over a trillion dollars in inflation adjusted aid over that time, and no infrastructure? What happened to all the money?

Oh and Comrade? Where are the names of the dead? Where are they buried?

I mean, they DO exist outside of a computer model, don't they?

WAIT, here is one of the victims.

iu
Do you know what infrastructure is? Lol! I'm dealing with a total dumb ass. Here's a hint dumbo, it isn't a statue.

DERP

A trillion dollars, but not a road or bridge in the country?

Your about as dishonest as a person can be.

So where are the mass graves, Comrade?
 

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