Trump campaign DID collude with Russia

[AntonToo]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

 

[Redfish]

He also has his family in the WH without payment, due to nepotism laws. None of them have classified clearance but the GOP doesn't care. I'm sure that the Kushner's are getting many perks.

its not illegal to work for the government for no pay.

funny how you libs are all spun up about security clearances when your wonderful hildebeast violated hers multiple times.

 

[AntonToo]

getting data on a political opponent from a foreign country

Since when is private citizen named Steele a COUNTRY?

 

[Redfish]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

 

[dcbl]

No, not surely.

It will be surely only after Mueller reports to congress a finding of criminal conduct by Trump.

You think he'll get him for deleting emails?

 

[Redfish]

getting data on a political opponent from a foreign country

Since when is private citizen named Steele a COUNTRY?

getting data on a political opponent from a foreign national is neither collusion or illegal.

 

[AntonToo]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

Actually bullshit

All wiretaps were legal and no court filing ever even TRIED to claim otherwise.

And by the way Manafort and Carter WERE NOT surveiled during their employment with Trump campaign.

 

[kyzr]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveillance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me

 

[AntonToo]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveillance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

It looks like Obama did spy on Trump, just as he apparently did to me

Find me the words ILLEGAL SURVEILANCE in there.

You fools don't understand what you read, thats why it so easy to manipulate you into beliving bullshit.

 

[Redfish]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

Actually bullshit

All wiretaps were legal and no court filing ever even TRIED to claim otherwise.

If the rationale for he wiretaps was fraudulent, as it appears to have been, then the FISA court was lied to and crimes were committed.

 

[AntonToo]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

Actually bullshit

All wiretaps were legal and no court filing ever even TRIED to claim otherwise.

If the rationale for he wiretaps was fraudulent

It wasn't

 

[Redfish]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

Actually bullshit

All wiretaps were legal and no court filing ever even TRIED to claim otherwise.

If the rationale for he wiretaps was fraudulent

It wasn't

so you think the Russian dossier was all true? if so, you are the only one who does.

 

[kyzr]

Put the word "inadvertent" in there instead of "illegal" and its just as bad. The NSA had no business monitoring the opposition party during an election. Instead of using "plumbers" use "legal surveillance" by bending the rules.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

There wasn't, dope.
Post up even one.

 

[Redfish]

try "extremely careless" vs "grossly negligent" but I guess that change can only be made when the Clintons commit a crime.

 

[AntonToo]

Put the word "inadvertent" in there instead of "illegal" and its just as bad.

Lets not change words.

Lets find a straigh forward, credible claim of illegal wiretaping.

Flynn got recorded talking to Kysliak because Kysliak was LEGALY wiretapped. This recording was inadvertent, but COMPLETELY APROPRIATE.


Illegal wireptapping claims are simply not true.

Carter and Mafort's wiretapping was done legaly with FISA warrant, in full compliance with the law. It was also done without White House participation.

 

[Redfish]

illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

There wasn't, dope.
Post up even one.

Mueller says different, the dems set him up and now he is bringing them down. Hilarious

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Bullshit. There was no illegal surveilance by Obama's admin of Trump campaign.

actually there was, illegal wiretaps on people working in Trump tower by the Obama FBI and DOJ using the fake Russian dossier as rationale.

Actually bullshit

All wiretaps were legal and no court filing ever even TRIED to claim otherwise.

If the rationale for he wiretaps was fraudulent

It wasn't

so you think the Russian dossier was all true? if so, you are the only one who does.

Who said it needs to all be true?

 

[Redfish]

Put the word "inadvertent" in there instead of "illegal" and its just as bad.

Lets not change words.

Lets find a straigh forward, credible claim of illegal wiretaping.

You will not, beccause it is not a fact.

Carter and Mafort's wiretapping was done legaly with FISA warrant, in full compliance with the law.

the FISA warrant was based on fraudulent data. The FISA court was lied to. the whole thing was illegal.

I don't give a shit if Manifort and Page are convicted. That's not what this is about, this is about a political campaign using the FBI and DOJ as weapons in a campaign.

Remember as you toss this off. Republicans could be in charge next time if this is allowed to go unpunished.

 

[blackhawk]

OMG you do of course realize using that logic the Clinton campiagn is guilty of collusion as well by using foreign sources to get dirt on Trump.