Trump campaign DID collude with Russia

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JimH52

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What the F do you think the Junior meeting was about? They were seeking dirt on Hillary. That IS collusion.

Was there information passed during that meeting? Did this begin a system of criminal collaboration?

Mueller will find out. Please don't say there was NO COLLUSION. There clearly was....
 
What the F do you think the Junior meeting was about? They were seeking dirt on Hillary. That IS collusion.
Well no, that is SEEKING to colude.

It proves intent is there from Trump compaign - they had ZERO reservations about co-operating with Kremlin.

We know Russians were interested too, so it is LIKELY that they found a way to it, but we don't KNOW that.

Was there information passed during that meeting? Did this begin a system of criminal collaboration?

Mueller will find out. Please don't say there was NO COLLUSION. There clearly was....

There MAYBE was, that why we need the investigation to conclude.
 
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There is a difference between talking to Russians about legal issues, and doing something illegal. We'll see what Mueller ends up with regarding Trump "collusion", the general consensus is zero.

The dems/Hillary "colluded" with a foreign national (Mr. Steele) to collude with the Russians to publish the bogus Trump dossier. The dems also colluded with the Russians to do the UraniumOne deal, as well as other crimes such as her illegal server. I can't wait for the next special prosecutor to get some real indictments regarding election cheating.
 
The dems also colluded with the Russians to do the UraniumOne deal

Bullshit. If that was true and Republicans really did consider Uranium One deal a security threat they would actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Instead they put up theater about Hillary and voice exactly ZERO interest in protecting America form this supposed national security threat.
 
I'm sure it was all planned beginning in 2013 when Trump said he met a lot of oligarchs in Russia.
 
Attempted conspiracy to collude...wow

Dumbass, conspiracy happens as soon as the "attempting" beings.

Conspiracy to commit murder for example is a charge that does not require any successful murder.

One slight difference here in the US, murder is a crime, collusion is not.

CONSPIRACY is a CRIME.

Conspiracy - FindLaw

Conspiracy to commit wire fraud - would be the legal charge for colluding with Russians on publication of stolen emails.
 
November 2006: Manafort buys a condo in Trump Tower for $3.7 million through an LLC called John Hannah. John is Manafort’s middle name, and Hannah is the middle name of his then–business partner, Rick Davis. This is the first of several multimillion-dollar real estate deals Manafort does between 2006 and 2012, often all in cash

Paul Manafort and Donald Trump Have Known Each Other for a Very, Very Long Time
 
surely Trump will be impeached any day now

hopefully he can start rounding up dissidents for the concentration camps before they go through wih removing him from office...
 
Attempted conspiracy to collude...wow

Dumbass, conspiracy happens as soon as the "attempting" beings.

Conspiracy to commit murder for example is a charge that does not require any successful murder.

One slight difference here in the US, murder is a crime, collusion is not.

CONSPIRACY is a CRIME.

Conspiracy - FindLaw

Conspiracy to commit wire fraud - would be the legal charge for colluding with Russians on publication of stolen emails.

After the illegal surveillance by the Obama admin of the Trump campaign, if there was any such "collusion to commit wire fraud" the dems would have leaked it and been pushing for impeachment. Since that didn't happen, they simply want to keep chanting "collusion" in hopes someone will believe their hoax.
 
Attempted conspiracy to collude...wow

No, dope. Collusion with intent to conspire.
Manafort and Gates both charged. Gates pled guilty.

What is 'conspiracy against the United States'?

The detail is spelled out in the US Code of Laws - Title 18, Chapter 19, Section 371.

What does the law say?
Firstly, you cannot be charged with conspiracy alone. The law is used against "two or more people" - in this case, Mr Manafort and Mr Gates.

Secondly, the law is broad. It can be used against a group who "commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose".

In a 1924 case, Hammerschmidt v. United States, Chief Justice William Taft (who was US President from from 1909 to 1913) defined "defraud".

"To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money," he said.

"But it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest."
 
He also has his family in the WH without payment, due to nepotism laws. None of them have classified clearance but the GOP doesn't care. I'm sure that the Kushner's are getting many perks.
 
getting data on a political opponent from a foreign country is neither collusion or illegal. Paying for fake data on a political opponent is collusion and illegal. the Clinton campaign engaged in illegal acts, the Trump campaign did not.

Sorry, too. once again you are FOS
 
Attempted conspiracy to collude...wow

Dumbass, conspiracy happens as soon as the "attempting" beings.

Conspiracy to commit murder for example is a charge that does not require any successful murder.

One slight difference here in the US, murder is a crime, collusion is not.

Call it conspiracy , election fraud, or treason , whatever you want.

We call it winning the election, OH SNAP! :auiqs.jpg:
 
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