To have a few politicians with this kind of agenda

[bigrebnc1775]

If not for the unions in America people could afford American products. I try to buy as much local nonunion things as I can.

It's the unions fault? So what? You feel we should have no regulations or a actual living wage?

This is where you are up over the top in delusion. Why is it tht a non union company can make a product cheaper then a company that is maned by union members?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Sonny, you will comply with the law or pay the cost.

 

[Greenbeard]

He's still a fucking socialist moron. Fuck you and the POS in the white house. fuck his policy's I will not comply

Comply with what?

Anything I damn welkl chose not to comply to namely the healthcare law.

I suspect you'll be on your parents' insurance for some time and won't have to give much thought to compliance.

 

[Modbert]

This is where you are up over the top in delusion. Why is it tht a non union company can make a product cheaper then a company that is maned by union members?

Got a link for that?

 

[L.K.Eder]

This is where you are up over the top in delusion. Why is it tht a non union company can make a product cheaper then a company that is maned by union members?

Got a link for that?

community service? heheh

asking that one a serious question is futile. but it is fun.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This is where you are up over the top in delusion. Why is it tht a non union company can make a product cheaper then a company that is maned by union members?

Got a link for that?

Studies commissioned by union contractor groups and independent research firms confirm that the cost advantages gained by nonunion contractors over union firms are achieved through the efficient management of operational costs and an innovative labor-management technique employed regularly by merit shop contractors called multiskilling.
Understanding the Merit Shop Contractor Cost Advantage | The Truth About PLAs

The Big Three are also distinguished not just by their size and geography, but also by their business model. The majority of their operations are unionized (United Auto Workers and Canadian Auto Workers), resulting in higher labor costs than other multinational automakers, including those with plants in North America.[7] The 2005 Harbour Report estimated that Toyota's lead in labour productivity amounted to a cost advantage of $350 US to $500 US per vehicle over American manufacturers.[1] The UAW agreed to a two-tier wage in recent 2007 negotiations, something which the CAW has so far refused.[8] Delphi, which was spun off from GM in 1999, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the UAW refused to cut their wages and GM is expected to be liable for a $7 billion shortfall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(automobile_manufacturers)

 

[JakeStarkey]

This is where you are up over the top in delusion. Why is it tht a non union company can make a product cheaper then a company that is maned by union members?

Got a link for that?

Studies commissioned by union contractor groups and independent research firms confirm that the cost advantages gained by nonunion contractors over union firms are achieved through the efficient management of operational costs and an innovative labor-management technique employed regularly by merit shop contractors called multiskilling.
Understanding the Merit Shop Contractor Cost Advantage | The Truth About PLAs

The Big Three are also distinguished not just by their size and geography, but also by their business model. The majority of their operations are unionized (United Auto Workers and Canadian Auto Workers), resulting in higher labor costs than other multinational automakers, including those with plants in North America.[7] The 2005 Harbour Report estimated that Toyota's lead in labour productivity amounted to a cost advantage of $350 US to $500 US per vehicle over American manufacturers.[1] The UAW agreed to a two-tier wage in recent 2007 negotiations, something which the CAW has so far refused.[8] Delphi, which was spun off from GM in 1999, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the UAW refused to cut their wages and GM is expected to be liable for a $7 billion shortfall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(automobile_manufacturers)

The point is that non-union businesses underpay their employees in relation to their worth (go back and check your article) and that union businesses often overpay their employees through the threat of strikes. There is a proper balance that requires management and labor to compromise. The problem, of course, is greed, by both sides, often impedes sensible negotiations.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Got a link for that?

Studies commissioned by union contractor groups and independent research firms confirm that the cost advantages gained by nonunion contractors over union firms are achieved through the efficient management of operational costs and an innovative labor-management technique employed regularly by merit shop contractors called multiskilling.
Understanding the Merit Shop Contractor Cost Advantage | The Truth About PLAs

The Big Three are also distinguished not just by their size and geography, but also by their business model. The majority of their operations are unionized (United Auto Workers and Canadian Auto Workers), resulting in higher labor costs than other multinational automakers, including those with plants in North America.[7] The 2005 Harbour Report estimated that Toyota's lead in labour productivity amounted to a cost advantage of $350 US to $500 US per vehicle over American manufacturers.[1] The UAW agreed to a two-tier wage in recent 2007 negotiations, something which the CAW has so far refused.[8] Delphi, which was spun off from GM in 1999, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the UAW refused to cut their wages and GM is expected to be liable for a $7 billion shortfall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Three_(automobile_manufacturers)

The point is that non-union businesses underpay their employees in relation to their worth (go back and check your article) and that union businesses often overpay their employees through the threat of strikes. There is a proper balance that requires management and labor to compromise. The problem, of course, is greed, by both sides, often impedes sensible negotiations.

oh let's just disregard the labor cost retirement plan benifits of union jobs versus non union jobs.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now you are demonstrating that you can't or won't read. Now go back, read fully what I wrote, and come back with a more relevant comment, bigreb.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Now you are demonstrating that you can't or won't read. Now go back, read fully what I wrote, and come back with a more relevant comment, bigreb.

It is you who is demonstrating that you do not understand that union works have a fat compensation retirement plan and non union workers do not union workers are over paid and under worked. The cost has for that plan has to be add to the cost of the product which in turn makes the price go up.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are seeing only one side of the issue. I agree that union plans can be counterproductive to business, but not to all business: the oil industry is unionized, and the oil industry's profits the last seven years has been incredible.

The challenge is to make business realize that paying employees equitably is good business. Short-sighted greed is the problem here.