Thoughts. Porn, good, bad or indifferent?

[catzmeow]

I suppose you're right about that.

Degradation comes in many forms.

One person's degradation is another person's titillation.

One thing I've learned about sex as I get older is that people have unique tastes and interests. As long as the partners are consenting adults, and no laws are broken, I try not to judge. It's really none of my business what other people are into.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If you care to look there are many erotic films that could be classified as pornographic.

My wife and I will watch soft core porn and erotica. A bottle of wine, a little honey, some massage oil along with the film. try it sometime.

I will add that many of you seem to be talking more on the line of the real hardcore stuff. You know with the extreme close ups of uglies bumping. And I would agree that those movies are really unappealing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I like images of beautiful women without too many clothes on.

Is that pornographic?

The one and only pornographic movie I saw was in 1970. It was entitled Teenie Tulip.

It was so stupid and so UNSEXY I walked out about half way through it.

So much porn seems aimed at men seeinto dominance, power and abuse I find it rather absurd.

Do the producers of this crap not know any real women, or do they just understand their (rather small I think) audience's sickness?

I don't necessarily know that people are "sick" if that is what they're into. Would you say Marilyn Chambers was sick for saying she has S&M fantasies? That's why people are drawn to watch porn -- it brings to "life" what they only fantasize about in real life. "Power, dominance and abuse" also sells papers, books, magazines, movie tickets, etc. We must have society full of "sick" people.

 

[RodISHI]

If you care to look there are many erotic films that could be classified as pornographic.

My wife and I will watch soft core porn and erotica. A bottle of wine, a little honey, some massage oil along with the film. try it sometime.

I will add that many of you seem to be talking more on the line of the real hardcore stuff. You know with the extreme close ups of uglies bumping. And I would agree that those movies are really unappealing.

You may have a point there skull. There could be a difference. Personally I don't care to do a study on it though. Rod and I never needed anything extra. Just being with one another has been adequate. Soft music and candle light is nice but not mandatory.


From seeing the results of a few people over the years we have known I think on a whole that porn or extracurricular activities may possibly do more damage to a normal loving relationship than help the relationship. Then again it may be that those people I have known were not stable to begin with or it could be they were inable to reach a point of being stable due to the extra factors in their lives. I'm thinking more along the lines that those extra factors played a large part of their demise.

 

[stekim]

I've never understood what the big deal is with porn. Who cares?

 

[RodISHI]

We must have society full of "sick" people.

Well if one takes the time to look at all the current circumstances of people in general you could have a point there PC.

 

[catzmeow]

I don't necessarily know that people are "sick" if that is what they're into. Would you say Marilyn Chambers was sick for saying she has S&M fantasies? That's why people are drawn to watch porn -- it brings to "life" what they only fantasize about in real life. "Power, dominance and abuse" also sells papers, books, magazines, movie tickets, etc. We must have society full of "sick" people.

Is it sick if two consenting adults enjoy it and no laws are broken? Sick is in the eye of the beholder. I don't really see the point of sitting in judgement on other people's sexual tastes. It doesn't harm me in any way if the guy down the street likes to spank his wife occasionally, or if she likes to spank him.

I fail to see how it is any of my business, frankly.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you care to look there are many erotic films that could be classified as pornographic.

My wife and I will watch soft core porn and erotica. A bottle of wine, a little honey, some massage oil along with the film. try it sometime.

I will add that many of you seem to be talking more on the line of the real hardcore stuff. You know with the extreme close ups of uglies bumping. And I would agree that those movies are really unappealing.

You may have a point there skull. There could be a difference. Personally I don't care to do a study on it though. Rod and I never needed anything extra. Just being with one another has been adequate. Soft music and candle light is nice but not mandatory.


From seeing the results of a few people over the years we have known I think on a whole that porn or extracurricular activities may possibly do more damage to a normal loving relationship than help the relationship. Then again it may be that those people I have known were not stable to begin with or it could be they were inable to reach a point of being stable due to the extra factors in their lives. I'm thinking more along the lines that those extra factors played a large part of their demise.

You're right. Every couple is different. To me when I think of romance, porn is not what comes to mind. If people can watch it for what it is, then I think it's fine. I'm not talking about you RodISHI, but there are people are there that make judgements about others who view it. It's not for everyone, but I don't think people who are watch it are either evil or sick. There's a difference between casual observers and those who seem addicted to it to the point where they can't have sex without it.

 

[manifold]

I find it's useful to masturbate to, or to spice up sex with the misses, but other than that it doesn't offer much in the way of value.

 

[catzmeow]

You're right. Every couple is different. To me when I think of romance, porn is not what comes to mind. If people can watch it for what it is, then I think it's fine. I'm not talking about you RodISHI, but there are people are there that make judgements about others who view it. It's not for everyone, but I don't think people who are watch it are either evil or sick. There's a difference between casual observers and those who seem addicted to it to the point where they can't have sex without it.

I would say that if porn offends you, don't watch it. But, don't assume that you know what is best for other people.

 

[RodISHI]

If you care to look there are many erotic films that could be classified as pornographic.

My wife and I will watch soft core porn and erotica. A bottle of wine, a little honey, some massage oil along with the film. try it sometime.

I will add that many of you seem to be talking more on the line of the real hardcore stuff. You know with the extreme close ups of uglies bumping. And I would agree that those movies are really unappealing.

You may have a point there skull. There could be a difference. Personally I don't care to do a study on it though. Rod and I never needed anything extra. Just being with one another has been adequate. Soft music and candle light is nice but not mandatory.


From seeing the results of a few people over the years we have known I think on a whole that porn or extracurricular activities may possibly do more damage to a normal loving relationship than help the relationship. Then again it may be that those people I have known were not stable to begin with or it could be they were inable to reach a point of being stable due to the extra factors in their lives. I'm thinking more along the lines that those extra factors played a large part of their demise.

You're right. Every couple is different. To me when I think of romance, porn is not what comes to mind. If people can watch it for what it is, then I think it's fine. I'm not talking about you RodISHI, but there are people are there that make judgements about others who view it. It's not for everyone, but I don't think people who are watch it are either evil or sick. There's a difference between casual observers and those who seem addicted to it to the point where they can't have sex without it.

People do need to make their own choices no doubt. I do think though if they are aware of the pitfalls as with anything that could harm them or another it could help them through this world.

 

[Terry]

To each their own... Someone who needs porn on a regular bases is someone who has issues. If a man watches it to spice up thier sex with a spouse...perhaps you should question why you need that spice...did you lose your love and attraction for said spouse?

Like I stated, to each thier own.

 

[catzmeow]

To each their own...

Warning...judgemental section ahead...

Someone who needs porn on a regular bases is someone who has issues. If a man watches it to spice up thier sex with a spouse...perhaps you should question why you need that spice...did you lose your love and attraction for said spouse?

Like I stated, to each thier own.

You realize your post has a significant internal logical conflict, right?

It's like this:

"Who am I to judge."
"But you know, they have huge issues, and what the hell is their problem?"
"But I never judge."

LMFAO.

Like I said, if you don't like it, don't watch it. You have no clue, from the outside, what someone else's marriage is, needs, or should be.

 

[Terry]

To each their own...

Warning...judgemental section ahead...

Someone who needs porn on a regular bases is someone who has issues. If a man watches it to spice up thier sex with a spouse...perhaps you should question why you need that spice...did you lose your love and attraction for said spouse?

Like I stated, to each thier own.

You realize your post has a significant internal logical conflict, right?

It's like this:

"Who am I to judge."
"But you know, they have huge issues, and what the hell is their problem?"
"But I never judge."

LMFAO.

Like I said, if you don't like it, don't watch it. You have no clue, from the outside, what someone else's marriage is, needs, or should be.

I'm not judging far from it, it is what it is and I only pointed that out.

 

[Sky Dancer]

I watched two porn movies when I was taking a sex education class in college. They showed straight heterosexual porn, one porn film with gay men, and one with lesbians. From a strictly educational standpoint, it was helpful. We had some very interesting conversations in that class.

I didn't find them a particular personal turn on for me one way or the other. There was a reaction at the time, I suppose, because it new to me, and I wasn't very experienced, and I had been raised a Catholic--so seeing these films would have been a major no-no at the time.

I watched a porn movie one other time under very odd circumstances and it creeped me out.

Many movie dramas have lovemaking scenes in them, and some are quite beauitful, and I enjoy them. The L Word is pretty hot.

 

[catzmeow]

I'm not judging far from it, it is what it is and I only pointed that out.

Terry, when you write the following:

Someone who needs porn on a regular bases is someone who has issues. If a man watches it to spice up thier sex with a spouse...perhaps you should question why you need that spice...did you lose your love and attraction for said spouse?

You're judging. You have no basis on which to make that judgement, it is totally unsupported by any kind of scientific research, and you're revealing your personal biases.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You may have a point there skull. There could be a difference. Personally I don't care to do a study on it though. Rod and I never needed anything extra. Just being with one another has been adequate. Soft music and candle light is nice but not mandatory.


From seeing the results of a few people over the years we have known I think on a whole that porn or extracurricular activities may possibly do more damage to a normal loving relationship than help the relationship. Then again it may be that those people I have known were not stable to begin with or it could be they were inable to reach a point of being stable due to the extra factors in their lives. I'm thinking more along the lines that those extra factors played a large part of their demise.

You're right. Every couple is different. To me when I think of romance, porn is not what comes to mind. If people can watch it for what it is, then I think it's fine. I'm not talking about you RodISHI, but there are people are there that make judgements about others who view it. It's not for everyone, but I don't think people who are watch it are either evil or sick. There's a difference between casual observers and those who seem addicted to it to the point where they can't have sex without it.

People do need to make their own choices no doubt. I do think though if they are aware of the pitfalls as with anything that could harm them or another it could help them through this world.

I keep thinking about the high school girl that your brother had a crush on. She sounds like a lost soul and that might be why she ended up in the porn industry. I have an inkling that if her homelife was better and that there was a parent around that did some decent supervision that she might have made better choices in life.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Personally, I find giant images of gonads in action, educational but not particularly sexy.

 

[catzmeow]

I keep thinking about the high school girl that your brother had a crush on. She sounds like a lost soul and that might be why she ended up in the porn industry. I have an inkling that if her homelife was better and that there was a parent around that did some decent supervision that she might have made better choices in life.

There are a surprising amount of lost souls out there in the U.S., people who fall through the net of our society. It's very sad.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Let's see if I get this right. There are people who enjoy porn, who purchase it and find it fulfills some need, but they consider the actors in the movie 'lost souls'? Isn't there some kind of split going on?

If you purchase porn and watch it, you're a part of the industry as a customer. Why judge the people who work to make YOU happy?