Those fiscally responsible Democrats...

[Zander]

The last budget produced by congressional Republicans was in 2007. That year, the deficit was approximately $160 billion. I was disgusted with that., there is simply no reason to spend more than you take in year after year after year. NONE. But it is getting far worse thanks to the Democrat Congress.

The next year 2008, under the Pelosi-Reid Democratic Congress, the deficit shot up to $458 billion. The next year, in 2009, it was a mind-boggling $1.4 trillion.

In this new budget, of course, The Democrats and Obama propose to spend $1.6 trillion more than we have! The Democrats are on pace to triple the national debt by 2020. Nice work assholes!!

No amount of fairy dust, unicorn rides, and "Hopeychangey" feelings can hide these facts. These aren't just abstract numbers on a graph. This is grotesque government spending - and the tax increases that inevitably accompany such spending –will only kill jobs. That is precisely what we don't need right now.

November cannot come soon enough......

The biggest problem with that fiscally irresponsible budget is paying for two fiscally irresponsible wars and using a fiscally irresponsible tax cut to pay for them

Tax revenues increased with the Bush tax cuts as the GDP increased from 9.7 trillion to 14.4 trillion - the problem is not revenue - it is SPENDING.

Congress controls spending. When Congress is run by Democrats deficits BALOOON larger than Hilary Clinton's cankles. Democrats simply can't help themselves, they are crack addicted spending whores. The figures don't lie leftwinger.

 

[Polk]

Nominal revenue increased because the economy grew, just like it does every year under normal conditions. The relevant measure is distance between peaks in real revenue (since if the economy is growing, real revenue will peak every year). The distance between peaks after the Bush tax cuts was the longest ever.

 

[Zander]

Nominal revenue increased because the economy grew, just like it does every year under normal conditions. The relevant measure is distance between peaks in real revenue (since if the economy is growing, real revenue will peak every year). The distance between peaks after the Bush tax cuts was the longest ever.

Once again our LAZY friend Polk makes a statement with no proof....Sorry Polk, that's not how it works here. You need to provide links, graphs, data to support you arguments. Why is that so hard for you?

 

[asaratis]

Liberalism is a mental disorder. The poor bastards do not know that they are STUPID!

Then tell the blacks and the women to thank the crazies they can vote.

Pelosi and Reid don't control congress.


The people who keep voting them in do.


If America is collapsing, it's because of the American people, who still have the ability to change it yet do nothing.

It is not the people that count. It is the people that count the people and count the votes of the people that count. The government is counting the people and their votes.

Pelosi and Reid do control things during their terms in Congress. Until they are removed, they are in control. It is beginning to sink in to a lot of Americans just how much damage a runaway Congress can do in a year or two. If we can stop this train before it results in a dictatorship, the system will have worked.

Then they're not liberals. Calling themselves such doesn't make them so any more than Lucifer is the Lord because he declares himself to be so.


Instead of spitting on the name of the ideals and ideology that this nation was founded upon, why don't you call those people out on their lies and stand up for true liberalism?

I agree. True liberalism is what some conservatives stand for today.

Wolves in sheep's clothing comes to mind when people label themselves.

 

[The Rabbi]

The Bush tax cuts alone are the source of over half of the deficit.

Escuse me? I couldn't hear what you said because it's your ass talking.

"Rabbi", don't you have another rant to go on about how Obama is a tool of the Rothschild family?

You really need to quit talking out of your ass because no one can understand you.

You also need to stop making stuff up. Of course if you did that you would become a GOP conservative.

 

[The Rabbi]

Nominal revenue increased because the economy grew, just like it does every year under normal conditions. The relevant measure is distance between peaks in real revenue (since if the economy is growing, real revenue will peak every year). The distance between peaks after the Bush tax cuts was the longest ever.

Once again our LAZY friend Polk makes a statement with no proof....Sorry Polk, that's not how it works here. You need to provide links, graphs, data to support you arguments. Why is that so hard for you?

He can't. Because he is wrong.

Looks like total revenue increased something like 25% from 2000 to 2008. Too bad spending increased more that under the Democratic Congress.

 

[Zander]

Nominal revenue increased because the economy grew, just like it does every year under normal conditions. The relevant measure is distance between peaks in real revenue (since if the economy is growing, real revenue will peak every year). The distance between peaks after the Bush tax cuts was the longest ever.

Once again our LAZY friend Polk makes a statement with no proof....Sorry Polk, that's not how it works here. You need to provide links, graphs, data to support you arguments. Why is that so hard for you?

He can't. Because he is wrong.

Looks like total revenue increased something like 25% from 2000 to 2008. Too bad spending increased more that under the Democratic Congress.

Maybe if lazy ass Polk stopped copying and pasting from the leftwingnut websites he plagarizes he'd learn a thing or two. I don't think I've ever seen him back up his bullshit with factual data. Maybe he's actually Obama?

 

[The Rabbi]

They all do that. There are certain beliefs that are unshakable. Bush lost the 2000 election. Bush lied so we would invade Iraq. Bush's tax cuts affected the wealthy only. The middle class is losing ground. Republicans only represent the interests of the rich. etc etc ad nauseam.
Every one of those statements has been disproven so many times one wonders why there is debate.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That argument makes no sense. If Reagan's "fiscally conservative" policies resulted in 17 years, why was the growth not harmed by the three rounds of tax increases?

CHeck this graph out.....

Marginal tax rates dropped from 70% down to under 30% during the Reagan era. Hence the 17 year sustained expansion. Even minor increases couldn't stop the momentum. Obama could turn his entire term around if he cut taxes, cut spending,and told the American people to take care of themselves. It is not the govt's job to play nursemaid to it citizenry.

Reagan lowered the top rates and produced massive peacetime deficits and accumulated hundreds of billions of debt that we effectively still pay interest on. Republicans love to cut taxes, increase spending, and then blame the consequences on the Democrats who are supposed to clean it up. Clinton DID clean it up, but as soon as the Republicans got him out of the way, they were off to the borrow and spend races again:

The Bush legacy:

Republican tax cuts, not paid for.
Republican war, not paid for.
Republican defense spending increases, not paid for.
Republican prescription drug plan, not paid for.

 

[Meister]

Where's your list with barry?

 

[The Rabbi]

That argument makes no sense. If Reagan's "fiscally conservative" policies resulted in 17 years, why was the growth not harmed by the three rounds of tax increases?

Marginal tax rates dropped from 70% down to under 30% during the Reagan era. Hence the 17 year sustained expansion. Even minor increases couldn't stop the momentum. Obama could turn his entire term around if he cut taxes, cut spending,and told the American people to take care of themselves. It is not the govt's job to play nursemaid to it citizenry.

Reagan lowered the top rates and produced massive peacetime deficits and accumulated hundreds of billions of debt that we effectively still pay interest on. Republicans love to cut taxes, increase spending, and then blame the consequences on the Democrats who are supposed to clean it up. Clinton DID clean it up, but as soon as the Republicans got him out of the way, they were off to the borrow and spend races again:

The Bush legacy:

Republican tax cuts, not paid for.
Republican war, not paid for.
Republican defense spending increases, not paid for.
Republican prescription drug plan, not paid for.

Once again facts defeat the Left's talking points. Here is a chart of Federal revenue. Note that from 1980 to about 1990 revenue increased by almost 90%

Spending, driven by Democratic Congresses, accounts for the deficits.

 

[Zander]

Marginal tax rates dropped from 70% down to under 30% during the Reagan era. Hence the 17 year sustained expansion. Even minor increases couldn't stop the momentum. Obama could turn his entire term around if he cut taxes, cut spending,and told the American people to take care of themselves. It is not the govt's job to play nursemaid to it citizenry.

Reagan lowered the top rates and produced massive peacetime deficits and accumulated hundreds of billions of debt that we effectively still pay interest on. Republicans love to cut taxes, increase spending, and then blame the consequences on the Democrats who are supposed to clean it up. Clinton DID clean it up, but as soon as the Republicans got him out of the way, they were off to the borrow and spend races again:

The Bush legacy:

Republican tax cuts, not paid for.
Republican war, not paid for.
Republican defense spending increases, not paid for.
Republican prescription drug plan, not paid for.

Once again facts defeat the Left's talking points. Here is a chart of Federal revenue. Note that from 1980 to about 1990 revenue increased by almost 90%

Spending, driven by Democratic Congresses, accounts for the deficits.

They conveniently forget that "Congress controls spending" regardless of who holds the Executive branch. Democrat controlled Congress' always spend far too much money. We are experiencing it now. $1.6 Trillion this year alone......and likely to be revised upward!! Wake up liberals, you're only fucking yourselves.

 

[rightwinger]

The last budget produced by congressional Republicans was in 2007. That year, the deficit was approximately $160 billion. I was disgusted with that., there is simply no reason to spend more than you take in year after year after year. NONE. But it is getting far worse thanks to the Democrat Congress.

The next year 2008, under the Pelosi-Reid Democratic Congress, the deficit shot up to $458 billion. The next year, in 2009, it was a mind-boggling $1.4 trillion.

In this new budget, of course, The Democrats and Obama propose to spend $1.6 trillion more than we have! The Democrats are on pace to triple the national debt by 2020. Nice work assholes!!

No amount of fairy dust, unicorn rides, and "Hopeychangey" feelings can hide these facts. These aren't just abstract numbers on a graph. This is grotesque government spending - and the tax increases that inevitably accompany such spending –will only kill jobs. That is precisely what we don't need right now.

November cannot come soon enough......

The biggest problem with that fiscally irresponsible budget is paying for two fiscally irresponsible wars and using a fiscally irresponsible tax cut to pay for them

Tax revenues increased with the Bush tax cuts as the GDP increased from 9.7 trillion to 14.4 trillion - the problem is not revenue - it is SPENDING.

Congress controls spending. When Congress is run by Democrats deficits BALOOON larger than Hilary Clinton's cankles. Democrats simply can't help themselves, they are crack addicted spending whores. The figures don't lie leftwinger.

Hmmm...Tax revenues increased? And yet the deficit doubled from $5 Trillion to $10 Trillion?
We are still adding to the deficit through those ill conceived tax cuts.
Check your deficits........80% of our existing deficit occured while REPUBLICANS were in control.
Presidents Carter and Clinton had Ballanced Budgets
Reagan, Bush and Bush ran record deficits

 

[Zander]

The biggest problem with that fiscally irresponsible budget is paying for two fiscally irresponsible wars and using a fiscally irresponsible tax cut to pay for them

Tax revenues increased with the Bush tax cuts as the GDP increased from 9.7 trillion to 14.4 trillion - the problem is not revenue - it is SPENDING.

Congress controls spending. When Congress is run by Democrats deficits BALOOON larger than Hilary Clinton's cankles. Democrats simply can't help themselves, they are crack addicted spending whores. The figures don't lie leftwinger.

Hmmm...Tax revenues increased? And yet the deficit doubled from $5 Trillion to $10 Trillion?
We are still adding to the deficit through those ill conceived tax cuts.
Check your deficits........80% of our existing deficit occured while REPUBLICANS were in control.
Presidents Carter and Clinton had Ballanced Budgets
Reagan, Bush and Bush ran record deficits

You're gonna have to do what intelligent people do leftiwnger - prove it. Go get the data, post it here for all to see. You might be surprised at how wrong you are.

 

[Ame®icano]

"When George W. Bush entered the White House in January 2001, he inherited peace and prosperity. The military, the Constitution and New Orleans were intact

Bush caused Katrina?

Well, he didn't inherited it from Clinton.

 

[Meister]

Reagan lowered the top rates and produced massive peacetime deficits and accumulated hundreds of billions of debt that we effectively still pay interest on. Republicans love to cut taxes, increase spending, and then blame the consequences on the Democrats who are supposed to clean it up. Clinton DID clean it up, but as soon as the Republicans got him out of the way, they were off to the borrow and spend races again:

The Bush legacy:

Republican tax cuts, not paid for.
Republican war, not paid for.
Republican defense spending increases, not paid for.
Republican prescription drug plan, not paid for.

Once again facts defeat the Left's talking points. Here is a chart of Federal revenue. Note that from 1980 to about 1990 revenue increased by almost 90%

Spending, driven by Democratic Congresses, accounts for the deficits.

They conveniently forget that "Congress controls spending" regardless of who holds the Executive branch. Democrat controlled Congress' always spend far too much money. We are experiencing it now. $1.6 Trillion this year alone......and likely to be revised upward!! Wake up liberals, you're only fucking yourselves.

Not to mention that the interest rates will be increasing.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Once again facts defeat the Left's talking points. Here is a chart of Federal revenue. Note that from 1980 to about 1990 revenue increased by almost 90%

Spending, driven by Democratic Congresses, accounts for the deficits.

Gee, I could have sworn I was told a few zillion times that Ronald Reagan won the Cold War by massively increasing our defense spending.

Now you're telling me that the Democrats in Congress in the 80's won the Cold War?

fascinating!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Liberalism is a mental disorder. The poor bastards do not know that they are STUPID!

Then tell the blacks and the women to thank the crazies they can vote.

Pelosi and Reid don't control congress.


The people who keep voting them in do.


If America is collapsing, it's because of the American people, who still have the ability to change it yet do nothing.

Today's Liberals have about as much in common with the liberals of yesteryear as todays Greens have in common with Collards or Mustards.

I love this nonsenical conservative talking point. Liberals of yesteryear? Like when? The 50's? Last week I posted the Republican 1956 party platform and it was so far to the left of where modern day conservatives are, all things considered, that it was hardly recognizable as the GOP. And OF COURSE Democrats were the party to the left of the Republicans at that time.

Sure, modern day conservatives love old timey liberalism. Give me a break!

 

[NYcarbineer]

No amount of fairy dust, unicorn rides, and "Hopeychangey" feelings can hide these facts. These aren't just abstract numbers on a graph. This is grotesque government spending - and the tax increases that inevitably accompany such spending –will only kill jobs. That is precisely what we don't need right now.

November cannot come soon enough......

In 2000 the budget debate was about what would be done with the projected future budget surpluses in the coming years.

 

[The Rabbi]

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Once again facts defeat the Left's talking points. Here is a chart of Federal revenue. Note that from 1980 to about 1990 revenue increased by almost 90%

Spending, driven by Democratic Congresses, accounts for the deficits.

Gee, I could have sworn I was told a few zillion times that Ronald Reagan won the Cold War by massively increasing our defense spending.

Now you're telling me that the Democrats in Congress in the 80's won the Cold War?

fascinating!

When faced with contradictory evidence you change the subject. True sign of a loser.