This Is What Happened On 9/11

[Terral]

Hi Mr. Fizz:

they arent conspiracy whackos like you. they gather evidence and look at it then come to a logical conclusion. you spew lies and come to conclusions with no basis in reality ...

Post #140 is more unsupported Official Cover Story Stupidity (#7-#10) by a guy sent here to defend Loyal Bushie/Obama LIES. If Mr. Fizz ever makes an Official Cover Story Case supported by ANYTHING, then perhaps we will have something to debate.

GL,

Terral

 

[Fizz]

Hi Mr. Fizz:

they arent conspiracy whackos like you. they gather evidence and look at it then come to a logical conclusion. you spew lies and come to conclusions with no basis in reality ...

Post #140 is more unsupported Official Cover Story Stupidity (#7-#10) by a guy sent here to defend Loyal Bushie/Obama LIES. If Mr. Fizz ever makes an Official Cover Story Case supported by ANYTHING, then perhaps we will have something to debate.

GL,

Terral

tell us again the mathematical formula that made the Pentagon only 10 feet tall.

thats one of my favorites.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hi Mr. Fizz:

they arent conspiracy whackos like you. they gather evidence and look at it then come to a logical conclusion. you spew lies and come to conclusions with no basis in reality ...

Post #140 is more unsupported Official Cover Story Stupidity (#7-#10) by a guy sent here to defend Loyal Bushie/Obama LIES. If Mr. Fizz ever makes an Official Cover Story Case supported by ANYTHING, then perhaps we will have something to debate.

GL,

Terral

so very true.that day will never come that he will have anything to support this theories he has.His bosses would stop sending him paychecks if he posted truthful information.

 

[Nonelitist]

wow.... get back on your medications and warn your neighbors to stay away.

 

[candycorn]

Hi Mr. Fizz:

they arent conspiracy whackos like you. they gather evidence and look at it then come to a logical conclusion. you spew lies and come to conclusions with no basis in reality ...

Post #140 is more unsupported Official Cover Story Stupidity (#7-#10) by a guy sent here to defend Loyal Bushie/Obama LIES. If Mr. Fizz ever makes an Official Cover Story Case supported by ANYTHING, then perhaps we will have something to debate.

GL,

Terral

so very true.that day will never come that he will have anything to support this theories he has.His bosses would stop sending him paychecks if he posted truthful information.

 

[Terral]

Hi Mr. Fizz:

Mr. Fizz has no Official Cover Story Case, so he wastes our time with his nonsense and stupidity ...

tell us again the mathematical formula that made the Pentagon only 10 feet tall.

thats one of my favorites ...

Mr. Fizz (Official Cover Story Stooge) is pointing at my 9:31:39 AM Missile Strike calculations from my 911Truth Blog Entry here:

April Gallop Injured During 9:32 AM Missile Strike

This is my diagram taken from the CCTV Pentagon Security Images (from here). My commentary goes like this:

The process for determining the size of our DoD Missile begins by opening up the first two frames for Camera #1 (left) and Camera #2 (right) here. We can see the nose section of our DoD Missile in the top right-hand picture and entering frame from our right. However, the initial Observational portion of our exercise requires us to place full attention on the Camera #1 frame (left) where the Missile has yet to enter the picture. We are looking through the lens of a security camera using a wide-angle lens, which accounts for the slopping roofline and the two columns having the appearance of leaning away from the centerline of the picture. The DoD bad guys errantly thought this wide-angle lens created insurmountable hurdles for our 911Truth investigation, because the sizes of the objects are skewed; but that is just another 9/11 MYTH that you are about to see debunked once and for all.

Camera 1 is positioned five feet above the ground, which matches the five feet elevation of the right-hand column ‘and’ a reference point five feet above the horizon in the distance. We have a straight line running through our security camera lens ‘and’ the top of that right-hand column ‘and’ our reference point just five feet above the horizon, which means all three of these points are on the same 5-feet X-axis Plane.

Follow the “Camera Height Is Also 5 Feet” line across the frame to realize the top of the right-hand column ‘and’ the nose of our DoD Missile ‘and’ that reference point five feet above the horizon are all on the same horizontal X-axis plane. We cannot actually see the missile nose in this Camera #1 frame, but we are able to locate the elevation of the missile nose by identifying the elevation of the center of the “Vapor Trail Exhaust Behind The Missile.” The “Magic Spot” marks the X-Y Axis Intersection Point location running from the security camera lens through the cap of the right-hand column through the centerline of the flying object and through to that reference point just five feet above the horizon that places ‘all’ of these horizontal points on the same 5-feet Elevation Plane from this diagram (pic). Once you have examined all the evidence from both diagrams, to conclude that our missile nose is definitely five feet above the ground, then we are ready to begin the second portion of our Observational Exercise.

Now concentrate all of your focus on the first Camera #2 image (on right) and make the connection that this flying object is flying just five feet off the ground. I superimposed a clip from the Camera 2 image onto the chalkboard (above left), so you can begin making the determination about the diameter ‘size’ of the flying object in relation and proportion to the ‘clearance underneath.’ Run your eyes through the white arrow where you see “Clearance is Over Twice The Diameter,” because this is your key to accurately determining the diameter size of our flying object. Once we have the correct ‘proportions’ for establishing the values of our two coefficients (.5 and 2.5), then we are able solve the algebraic equation to find X.

The clearance under our Missile is clearly over twice the diameter, which I have assigned the measurement of 2.5X. We are looking at .5X added to the clearance, because our 5 feet dimension only includes the distance from the ground up to the 'nose' of the Missile; or measuring from the ground to the center of the flying object where “X” is the diameter size of our missile in feet. Referring to the chalkboard:

.5X plus 2.5X equals 5 feet.

We then multiply both sides of the equation by 2 to obtain:

X plus 5X equals 10 feet.

We then divide both sides of the equation by 6 to obtain:

X equals 10/6 or 1.6666667 feet, or,

X equals 20 inches.

The math says that an object flying with the nose just five feet off the ground 'and' two and a half times the clearance underneath has a diameter of 20 inches, which is obviously not the diameter of any 100-Ton Jetliner.

Mr. Fizz insists that the 77-foot tall Pentagon is only 10 feet tall, but remember that we are looking through a 'wide angle' lens that skews all dimensions beyond the X and Y Axis lines! There are only 'two' lines (one horizontal and one vertical) providing accurate measurements through any wide angle lens. The first line runs horizontally through the center of the photograph and the second runs vertically through the center of the photograph going the other way. Our 5-feet Horizontal X-Axis Line runs all the way across the photograph, which you can realize by recognizing how that line intersects the first-floor windows on your left. This 5-feet Horizontal X-axis Line runs over to touch the top of the right-hand column saying that column cap is on the same 5-feet Elevation.

The Security Camera holding this lens is set at 5-feet 'and' is positioned horizontal to the ground. We know that to be true, because our camera is pointed at a reference point in the distance just 5-feet above the ground. We are now going through the 'Observational' portion of the exercise, which locates the 5-feet horizontal X-axis Plane Line running through the center of the photograph. We are NOT trying to determine the heights of ANYTHING above or below that 5-feet X-axis Line! Why? That is easy: The dimensions are skewed in direct proportion to their distance 'away' from the X-axis line! We are ONLY interested in locating 'one' point along that X-axis line where the Y-axis line (vertical) makes the intersection.

All points in this photograph touching 'both' the X-axis and Y-axis lines are exactly 5 Feet above the ground! The center of our missile just happens to be centered on the right-hand column cap, which gives us the 'height' of the center of the flying object. Now look at the blackboard and the little missile clip (from here = look far right). The 'nose' of that missile is flying just 5 Feet Off The Ground, because that point in the photograph is on the X-axis/Y-axis Intersection Lines!

The next phase of the exercise requires you to recognize the 'difference' between the diameter of the flying object 'versus' the clearance underneath! There is 2.5 times more clearance underneath than the diameter of the flying object (missile). The diameter of the missile is "X." However, our 5-feet X-axis Line is 'centered' at the missile nose location. That is why you see .5X in the equation with the 2.5X (clearance) variable. Solving the equation requires us to multiply both sides by 2, which give us 6X = 10 feet, X = 1.6667, or X = 20 inches.

The CCTV Image cannot possibly be any 100-ton Jetliner, because the 'nose' is flying just 5 feet off the ground 'and' we have 2.5 times that diameter underneath! The diameter of this flying object (missile) is only 20 inches, which is definitely NO 100-ton Jetliner!

The problem is that Mr. Fizz cannot even begin to understand the math, so he embarrasses himself on a regular basis ...

GL,

Terral

 

[Fizz]

before we even get to the mathematics involved your assumptions are fatally flawed. in order for your "all on the same plane" theory to be correct the camera would need to be pointed EXACTLY at 5 feet above the horizon. your theory also does not take into account any elevation changes between the camera, the pentagon and the horizon. the chances of them being at the same exact elevation are just about zero.


i dont mke the claim the pentagon is 10 feet tall. you do. your math proves that the pentagon near the horizon is 10 feet tall.

 

[Terral]

Hi Mr. Fizz:

before we even get to the mathematics involved your assumptions are fatally flawed ...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxYRhnBzp8U]Mr. Fizz. What A Joke!!![/ame]

GL,

Terral

 

[Fizz]

every time you get pwned you bring a out the laughing guy video.


YOU GOT NOTHING!!!

 

[Terral]

Greetings to All:

NIST is lying about building fires causing the controlled demolition collapse of the WTC Skycrapers:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqN4sTjgn-E]NIST Is LYING ...[/ame]

GL,

Terral

 

[DiveCon]

terral is a lying deadbeat

 

[elvis]

terral is a lying deadbeat

is he the deadbeat dad?

 

[DiveCon]

terral is a lying deadbeat

is he the deadbeat dad?

one of the two known deadbeat troofer morons, yes

 

[Fizz]

find any explosives yet?


...fucking moron.

 

[slackjawed]

THE SMITH GANG
.
(The following article, Days of Destiny, is a fair representation of the activities of the Smith Gang).
Author: Unknown
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Bill Smith and his three brothers trekked across the New Mexico border into eastern Arizona in the late 1890s and settled near Springerville in the White Mountains.
The community of St. Johns had its first encounter with him in 1898. Charges of cattle rustling landed him in the local jail, but his stay was short.
Brother Al smuggled a pistol into Bill's cell, and the gang leader was soon free to continue what had made him infamous in New Mexico-holdups, cattle and horse thievery, and killings.
Former Apache County Sheriff Commodore Perry Owens, who had killed three men and wounded another in a gunfight, described the Smith gang as the "toughest bunch to ever drink water from the Hassayampa (River)."
These thugs certainly weren't alone in the realm of lawbreaking in Arizona at that time. But Bill Smith, along with brothers Al, Floyd, and George, seems to have taken particular hold of the public's imagination.
Descriptions of Bill Smith, said to be a handsome, gap-toothed cowpuncher, drip with images of a man who lived the romance of the West.
Even Burt Mossman, the first captain of the Arizona Rangers, described Smith as a person who lived by strict code of honor.
Writers spoke of Smith in wildly inflated, flowery terms. The Arizona Daily Star in 1910 had this to say about the notorious New Mexican: An accurate description of the man's deeds and characteristics would make of him, in the eyes of the average romantically inclined maiden, an intensely interesting personage, endowed with the most heroic qualities.
Standing 6 feet in his socks, with a figure slender but straight as an arrow, firm and regular features, black eyes that flashed with fire and thick black hair, he was almost 35 years of age when he went on the 'scout' back in 1900.
Whatever his reason for doing so may have been, he succeeded quickly in gathering about him a band of seven other desperate characters, including three brothers, all of whom would have followed him into the jaws of purgatory.
Such grandiose attitudes obscured the cold facts, making it difficult to clearly track the Smith Gang's many vile deeds. But reasonable observers, recognizing the incompleteness of the record and the necessity for informed supposition, have attributed to the gang at least five killings, including a member of the newly-formed Arizona Rangers.
The prolonged chase of the Smith gang began March 26, 1900, with the arrival in St. Johns of a mail driver bearing the news that five men had been seen butchering a beef on the road to Springerville. Sheriff Ed Beeler quickly organized a posse and engaged the outlaws at the county bridge three miles west of town.
Although no one in the law party was injured, more than 50 shots were fired and the hunt was on.
By the next morning, Apache County rancher Dick Gibbons was leading a second posse to back up Beeler. Gibbons divided his men into two groups. He headed one of them and told the second group to stay on the rustlers' trail and drive them into his bunch.
The second group - consisting of Dick's nephew, Gus Gibbons, 24, Frank Lesueur, 21 and Antonio Armijo and Frank Ruiz - planned to stay on the rustlers' trail and meet up with Dick Gibbons on the following morning.
The four young men didn't show up for the meeting. Later, Dick Gibbons met Armijo and Ruiz on the trail. The two explained they had quit the hunt the night before, leaving the younger Gibbons and Lesueur alone.
A short time later, Dick Gibbons came to the crest of a gorge covered with boulders and cedar brush. His diary contains a powerful description of what he saw:
"It looked like the body of a man, but I would not admit it to myself. I was still too far away to be able to identify it, and while I was thinking about it I saw another object that looked like a quilt had been thrown away by the outlaws and had been rolled up by the wind and lodged in the wash where it now laid, but as we drew nearer, I saw that it was the body of my nephew Gus Gibbons.
It was lying in the bottom of a little draw with head down hill and face upwards, with three ghastly bullet holes through the head. One of them had entered his mouth and had come out the back of his neck. One had gone in at the left ear and had come out below the mouth, breaking the lower jaw and disfiguring the face awfully.
We well knew what the other object was that we had noticed lying on the hillside. The sight was horrifying to the senses. To see the two boys lying there, boys I had known since they were in the cradle and had watched them grow up. They were just in the pink of manhood and for them to be ambushed and shot down like dogs, without even a chance to fight for their lives, made me sick.
It was murder in its worst form and there is not another crime beneath the roof of heaven that can stain the soul of man with a more infernal hue than an assassination such as this."
The scene was easy to reconstruct. The young men were on foot, leading their horses up the ridge, when the rifles, hidden in ambush barely 30 feet off, opened up. Adding outrage to the horror, the two were robbed of all possessions, including their hats.
Words were inadequate to convey the feelings that gripped St. Johns. As the St. Johns Herald wrote:
"Our town is overwhelmed with sadness and two homes are bursting full of grief. Two noble, manly youths have fallen, victims of fiends in human shape."
In Reserve, New Mexico, the next night, the Smith gang stole seven horses and rode off in the direction of the Chiricahua Mountains in southeastern Arizona.
Posses were now in pursuit, but the bad fortune of catching up to them fell to U.S. Marshall George Scarborough and Deputy Walter Birchfield. A fatal joust occurred April 3 in a remote Chiricahua Mountain spot called Triangle Springs.
According to the Santa Fe New Mexican of April 5, 1900, Scarborough and Birchfield were victimized in the same fashion as Gibbons and Lesueur—ambushed by rifle fire. The first volley shattered Marshal Scarborough's leg. Another round struck Birchfield, the deputy, in the arm, but he was still able to build a crude rock wall to protect his wounded comrade
As soon as darkness cloaked his movements, Birchfield mounted a horse and galloped away in search of assistance. He returned at daybreak to find Scarborough suffering mightily from pain and exposure to overnight rain and snow.
Scarborough, a former Texas Ranger who had once captured famed stage robber Pearl Hart after her escape from a Tucson jail, died at Deming, New Mexico, after surgery to amputate his leg.
For some observers, the identity of the quarry has always been in doubt. Newspapers of the day published the names of numerous suspects, the numbers undoubtedly inflated by the common use of aliases. An outlaw's alias also was not always unique. A rookie would often adopt the alias of whichever notorious outlaw he wanted to emulate. Or a seasoned robber on the run might deliberately use the real name of someone he knew to confuse the trail.
Rustlers George Stevenson and James Brooks, recent escapees from jail, were two of this crowd of suspects. They were captured in Sonora, Mexico, and taken to jail in Silver City, New Mexico. But they escaped on May 28 and were never retaken, leaving forever unanswered the question of their guilt or innocence in Scarborough's death.
Stevenson and Brooks were said to have been associates of Butch Cassidy's famed Wild Bunch, as was a desperado named Todd Carver. He, too, was named in Scarborough's death.
As always, however, the Smith gang seemed the most likely perpetrators, and Sheriff Beeler evidently agreed. He traveled to New Mexico to dredge up whatever information he could on the notorious family.
The press pointed a finger at the Smiths , too.
The Tombstone Prospector and the Phoenix Herald reported that the same men had committed both attacks. The Prospector named them, misidentifying Bill Smith as Dick Smith:
"The five men whose names are John Hunter, alias Dick smith; Bob Johnson; Wilson, alias Smith; Kid Carver and one man unknown.. .
The newspapers wrote of the $2,000 in reward money offered by Apache County and proudly reported that the outlaws would shortly be intercepted by lawmen.
But capture never came and that didn't sit with Dick Gibbons. His outrage at the killings prompted him to run for the Territorial Legislature in the elections of September, 1900. Gibbons won the seat by campaigning on the need to form the Arizona Rangers, and the Rangers came into existence in March, 1901.
Not surprisingly, the Arizona Rangers had their first and deadliest fight with Bill Smith.
The action started in early October, 1901, when Bill Smith's gang was spotted south of Springerville with a herd of stolen horses.
Lawmen organized a posse that included Carlos Tafolla (Tafoya), a Ranger stationed in the area for the sole purpose of keeping watch over the Smiths.
On October 8, after tracking the gang along the Black River in northern Graham County, the posse came to the Smiths' camp, located at the bottom of a draw about 100 feet deep and 200 yards wide.
At dusk the lawmen made their move, crawling to the western peak of the draw. That decision - which put the setting sun at their backs, illuminating them as targets - proved deadly.
Posse member, Bill Maxwell, a one-time friend of Bill Smith's, called out: "Bill Smith, we arrest you in the name of the law and the name of the Territory of Arizona, and call upon you and your companions to lay down your arms."
But the gang would have none of that.
In a 1947 interview, former Ranger Joe Pearce, chief of the Apache tribal police at the time of the shoot-out, told what happened next:
"The guns opened up - mostly 30-30s, but Bill Smith was using a new Savage rifle that shot a .303 bullet. When you got hit with one of them, you stayed hit.
"Well, the fight was soon over, but it was plenty hot while it lasted. When the smoke settled, the Smiths were high-tailing for the timber.
"Ranger Tafolla (Tafoya) was on his back, shot twice through the middle and calling for water. Bill Maxwell was dead, the crown of his big hat shot out. . . "
Separated from their horses, the Smiths made another escape, dashing away on foot through the mountain snow.
A Ranger posse led by Mossman hurried to the scene and a massive manhunt followed. Among the pursuers was George Scarborough Jr., son of the recently murdered marshal, who boldly told reporters: "If necessary, I will devote the rest of my life to the capture of the Smith outlaws, one of whom is the slayer of my father."
But with snow obscuring their tracks, the Smiths eluded the Rangers and crossed the border into Mexico. They never again were known to set foot in Arizona, although conflicting tales abounded.
The only evidence of their later whereabouts came from the boys' mother. She told Pearce that they hopped a boat at Galveston, Texas and sailed to Argentina.
The Smith saga has two strange postscripts. The first involves the crown of Bill Maxwell's big hat, which remained on the ground for several years, a cloth monument that cowboys were afraid to touch in a place they called the Battle Ground.
The other concerns the legend of Bill Smith.
Numerous reports state that he grieved at killing Maxwell, and that his gang's intention had been to shoot another posse member with whom they'd been feuding.
According to these stories, Smith insisted that his heartfelt apologies reach Maxwell's mother.
Smith also wrote a letter to Mossman, explaining in great detail what happened in the fight at the deep draw.
These two actions played a large role in furthering Bill Smith's image for chivalry and honor.
But his most enduring legacy was ruthlessness - and the resulting creation of the Arizona Rangers, who operated until 1909, when peace settled over Arizona.
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Becker Note: The members of the posse at the October 8,1901 gunfight with the Smith gang included Apache County Deputy ,Sheriff C.H Sharp, Pete Peterson, Elijah Holgate, Lorenzo Crosby, Carlos Tafolla (Tafoya) Bill Maxwell, Henry Barrettand, and Duane Hamblin (Arizona Ranger).
George Scarborough
Augustus Gibbons and Frank LeSueur


from ;
St Johns Herald, 1891

 

[slackjawed]

I maintain my information is just as valuable as Terrals, christofecal's, or any of the other twoofers, and much more interesting.

 

[Fizz]

I maintain my information is just as valuable as Terrals, christofecal's, or any of the other twoofers, and much more interesting.

its certainly equally as relevant.

 

[Terral]

Greetings to All:

Somebody please try to 'debunk' anything from my 911Truth Presentation in the Opening Post ... IF you can ...

GL,

Terral

 

[SFC Ollie]

Greetings to All:

Somebody please try to 'debunk' anything from my 911Truth Presentation in the Opening Post ... IF you can ...

GL,

Terral

There is nothing there to Debunk. You have presented no physical evidence of any missile or A3. Please play again.

 

[Terral]

Greetings to All:

The Opening Post describes what really happened on 9/11 (here) and nobody can 'debunk' a single word. Go ahead and try to find one error. Make my day ...

GL,

Terral