'This is not a do-over': Trump jurors told sexual abuse is undeniable in Carroll case

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump is on his back and whimpering.

 

[Lastamender]

‘Former President Donald Trump's liability for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carroll case cannot be revisited or relitigated, a state judge instructed a jury today, reported ABC News on Tuesday.

"Judge Lewis Kaplan told the nine jurors that they must accept as true that Trump forcibly sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll and defamed her when he denied it," said the report. "'Ms. Carroll did not make up her claim of forcible sexual abuse,' Judge Kaplan told the panel. 'His false statements tended to disparage Ms. Carroll or tended to expose her to hatred or to induce an unsavory opinion of her.' The judge made it clear the jury was only determining damages related to two defamatory statements Trump made in June 2019 when he denied Carroll's rape allegation."

Ultimately, Kaplan instructed the jury, "This trial is not a do-over of the previous trial which determined those facts."’

'This is not a do-over': Trump jurors told sexual abuse is undeniable in Carroll case

Former President Donald Trump's liability for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carroll case cannot be revisited or relitigated, a federal judge instructed a jury today."Judge Lewis Kaplan told the nine jurors that they must accept as true that Trump forcibly sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll and...

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And a majority of Republicans in Iowa want to put Trump in the WH – someone who forcibly sexually assaulted a woman.

Like Trump, Republicans have no shame.

"Like Trump, Republicans have no shame."

And you have incest Joe. That is no shame. Next.

 

[forkup]

no police report filed when this supposed assault happened over 30 yrs ago .. no witnesses to the so called assault in a crowded clothing store .. it smells like a scam ..

2 witnesses provided willing to state she told them of it at the time. And 2 witnesses who worked at that "crowded clothing store" willing to state under oath that on the day it happened the store usually wasn't crowded and the floor on which it happened often unattended.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

‘Former President Donald Trump's liability for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carroll case cannot be revisited or relitigated, a state judge instructed a jury today, reported ABC News on Tuesday.

"Judge Lewis Kaplan told the nine jurors that they must accept as true that Trump forcibly sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll and defamed her when he denied it," said the report. "'Ms. Carroll did not make up her claim of forcible sexual abuse,' Judge Kaplan told the panel. 'His false statements tended to disparage Ms. Carroll or tended to expose her to hatred or to induce an unsavory opinion of her.' The judge made it clear the jury was only determining damages related to two defamatory statements Trump made in June 2019 when he denied Carroll's rape allegation."

Ultimately, Kaplan instructed the jury, "This trial is not a do-over of the previous trial which determined those facts."’

'This is not a do-over': Trump jurors told sexual abuse is undeniable in Carroll case

Former President Donald Trump's liability for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carroll case cannot be revisited or relitigated, a federal judge instructed a jury today."Judge Lewis Kaplan told the nine jurors that they must accept as true that Trump forcibly sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll and...

www.rawstory.com

And a majority of Republicans in Iowa want to put Trump in the WH – someone who forcibly sexually assaulted a woman.

Like Trump, Republicans have no shame.

She made it up based on a Law and Order episode and is on record about having rape fantasies

 

[yidnar]

Trump is on his back and whimpering.

he's standing tall and winning !

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/16/trump-iowa-caucuses-takeaways

 

[yidnar]

2 witnesses provided willing to state she told them of it at the time. And 2 witnesses who worked at that "crowded clothing store" willing to state under oath that on the day it happened the store usually wasn't crowded and the floor on which it happened often unattended.

why didnt they file a police report ?

 

[Clipper]

Kaplan is a leftwing activist appointed by Clinton. This is purely another partisan witch hunt. The idea that Trump would go after an old hag then in her 50s, now in her 80s, several years older than him is absurd when he could get women in their 20s.

If you notice, every leftwing media photo of Carroll shows her with her new facelift and new do. All with the intention of trying to make it plausible Trump would be interested.

Kaplan is one of the most respected judges in the entire Country.

Rape Ape Trump has met his match in Judge Kaplan.

Thoughts and Prayers.

 

[forkup]

why didnt they file a police report ?

Because in cases of sexual assault you look at what the victim wants. That's why sexual assault is often unreported. It takes a lot of courage to report it. Because all victims know that doing so exposes them to an adversarial legal system, providing the culprits of all kinds of protections and forcing them to not only confront but be called a liar by their lawyer. Much like you are doing now.

So, what we have is 5 people willing to state under oath that they either were victims of sexual assault or told about sexual assault. A video where Trump describes the actions he's accused off. And a deposition where he both lies and can't even tell you if powerful people getting away with sexual assault is good or bad.

What you have is questions that are answered by common reactions to sexual assault.

 

[BackAgain]

‘Former President Donald Trump's liability for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carroll case cannot be revisited or relitigated, a state judge instructed a jury today, reported ABC News on Tuesday.

"Judge Lewis Kaplan told the nine jurors that they must accept as true that Trump forcibly sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll and defamed her when he denied it," said the report. "'Ms. Carroll did not make up her claim of forcible sexual abuse,' Judge Kaplan told the panel. 'His false statements tended to disparage Ms. Carroll or tended to expose her to hatred or to induce an unsavory opinion of her.' The judge made it clear the jury was only determining damages related to two defamatory statements Trump made in June 2019 when he denied Carroll's rape allegation."

Ultimately, Kaplan instructed the jury, "This trial is not a do-over of the previous trial which determined those facts."’

'This is not a do-over': Trump jurors told sexual abuse is undeniable in Carroll case

Former President Donald Trump's liability for sexual abuse in the E. Jean Carroll case cannot be revisited or relitigated, a federal judge instructed a jury today."Judge Lewis Kaplan told the nine jurors that they must accept as true that Trump forcibly sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll and...

www.rawstory.com

And a majority of Republicans in Iowa want to put Trump in the WH – someone who forcibly sexually assaulted a woman.

Like Trump, Republicans have no shame.

Lol

That question suggests that the damages jury might be fed up with this charade.

It might be my natural optimism; but I wonder if the “damages” awarded are going to be small.

 

[forkup]

why didnt they file a police report ?

Oh, and by the way. Billy Bush isn't the only person he ever confessed too.


1,50 min in he says he does this.

Teen Beauty Queens Say Trump Walked In On Them Changing

“Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”

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One of them was 15.

But hey everybody is lying about that right? Including Donald Trump himself.

 

[forkup]

Lol

That question suggests that the damages jury might be fed up with this charade.

It might be my natural optimism; but I wonder if the “damages” awarded are going to be small.

Sure, because juries are usually very sympathetic to people who are determined to have committed sexual assault, defamed the victim and got slapped with a 5 million dollar fine because of it. Only to turn around to do the exact same thing a day later on national television.

I'm sure they'll be understanding.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Has the winning started?

The sexual battery is fact and cannot be questioned.

It certainly can be questioned. She didn't do anything until long after any reasonable defense could be mounted. Any witnesses would have long forgotten any details of just another unremarkable day at work. She lodged no complaint at the time. made no criminal report. didn't even raise a fuss to attract sales staff for intervention. This trumped-up case is a perfect example why statute of limitation laws exist.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump acted the fool again today. He truly is a jerk.

 

[forkup]

It certainly can be questioned. She didn't do anything until long after any reasonable defense could be mounted. Any witnesses would have long forgotten any details of just another unremarkable day at work. She lodged no complaint at the time. made no criminal report. didn't even raise a fuss to attract sales staff for intervention. This trumped-up case is a perfect example why statute of limitation laws exist.

You can question it. As a matter of law, you can't. You can't relitigate facts another jury has already established. As for the staff. They found 2. Corroborating, why it's at least possible this happened including details. And as I stated before. Not filing a report is neither remarkable or hard to understand. In fact, it is the norm, if anything.

 

[yidnar]

Oh, and by the way. Billy Bush isn't the only person he ever confessed too.


1,50 min in he says he does this.

Teen Beauty Queens Say Trump Walked In On Them Changing

“Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”

www.buzzfeednews.com

One of them was 15.

But hey everybody is lying about that right? Including Donald Trump himself.

where does he say that he assaults them ?

 

[yidnar]

Because in cases of sexual assault you look at what the victim wants. That's why sexual assault is often unreported. It takes a lot of courage to report it. Because all victims know that doing so exposes them to an adversarial legal system, providing the culprits of all kinds of protections and forcing them to not only confront but be called a liar by their lawyer. Much like you are doing now.

So, what we have is 5 people willing to state under oath that they either were victims of sexual assault or told about sexual assault. A video where Trump describes the actions he's accused off. And a deposition where he both lies and can't even tell you if powerful people getting away with sexual assault is good or bad.

What you have is questions that are answered by common reactions to sexual assault.

so Tara Reed is more credible because she accused Briben of assault soon after she said it happened ..

 

[BackAgain]

Sure, because juries are usually very sympathetic to people who are determined to have committed sexual assault, defamed the victim and got slapped with a 5 million dollar fine because of it. Only to turn around to do the exact same thing a day later on national television.

I'm sure they'll be understanding.

Wrong. A prior jury made a determination. The present jury seems concerned about the fact that they don’t get to have a say in whether the first jury got it right.

Therefore, they might make their opinion known via the damages issue.

The psycho already got awarded money. Such crap.

 

[forkup]

so Tara Reed is more credible because she accused Briben of assault soon after she said it happened ..

First of all. Let's establish one thing here. What you're doing is called an appeal to hypocrisy. Even IF you could assert that Biden did anything it doesn't get you an inch closer to proving Trump's innocence. It's deflecting so you don't have to actually engage the premise.

As for what you said about credibility. I tend to be skeptical about people who make allegations have NO WITNESSESS whatsoever besides her word (the same reason by the way, I didn't accept the claim of the OP) and you know.... ask asylum in Russia. But hey if you think having no physical evidence is nullified by "oh, but she filed immediately" (although not actually for sexual assault) is stronger than five (5) people willing to step in front of a judge and testify to sexual assault and knowing about sexual assault. That seems a problem no amount of reason can fix.

 

[forkup]

where does he say that he assaults them ?

He says he steps into their dressing rooms obviously to see them naked, and in this case MINORS.

 

[forkup]

Wrong. A prior jury made a determination. The present jury seems concerned about the fact that they don’t get to have a say in whether the first jury got it right.

Therefore, they might make their opinion known via the damages issue.

The psycho already got awarded money. Such crap.

LOL, the jury isn't "concerned". The judge is explaining to them the scope of the decision they have to make. It's not a matter of concern, it's a matter of law. Now please tell me some more lies about jury instructions.

I'll wait with bated breath.