There is No Home in the Universe but Earth

"EinsteinRosen bridges" or "wormholes"
This is a viable probability, especially if there are 4th and/or more spatial dimensions.
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A wormhole (or Einstein–Rosen bridge or Einstein–Rosen wormhole) is a speculative structure linking disparate points in spacetime, and is based on a special solution of the Einstein field equations.

A wormhole can be visualized as a tunnel with two ends at separate points in spacetime (i.e., different locations, or different points in time, or both).

Wormholes are consistent with the general theory of relativity by Einstein, but whether wormholes actually exist remains to be seen. Many scientists postulate that wormholes are merely projections of a fourth spatial dimension, analogous to how a two-dimensional (2D) being could experience only part of a three-dimensional (3D) object.[1]

A wormhole could connect extremely long distances such as a billion light years or more, short distances such as a few meters, different universes, or different points in time.[2]
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What Is Wormhole Theory?
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The Einstein-Rosen Bridge
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A new ‘Einstein’ equation suggests wormholes hold key to quantum gravity
ER=EPR summarizes new clues to understanding entanglement and spacetime

 
In the end we have to accept that God created ONLY the earth for Mankind.

There is no other world in the solar system or the universe


There may not be another world in the solar system for humankind, without doing some special habitat constructions and/or eventual terra-forming; but that's quite a leap to say such applies to the rest of the universe. Though not every star with planets may have an Earth like one orbiting it, there could still be hundreds to thousands or more "Earths" just in our own galaxy(Milky Way).

As for 'God' and creating; that in another post.
 
We just need the Devil's Anus...
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Looking to expand upon the work of Schwarszchild and other scientists seeking solutions to GR, they proposed the possible existence of "bridges" between two distant points in space time (known as "EinsteinRosen bridges" or "wormholes") that could theoretically allow for matter and objects to pass between them.

Simple.
A few solar panels should do it.
Another concept or similar one is the "warping" of space, or "discontinuity window" approach.
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Is NASA Actually Working On a Warp Drive?

Hyperspace, here we come!
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Is Warp Drive Real?
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The Tau Zero Foundation

Pioneering
Interstellar Flight

A coalition of researchers, educators, makers, and visionaries who pioneer bridge-building methods, develop solutions, and inspire us all toward interstellar flight.
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There's also the decades old concept of building colonies(cities) in space.

Interviews from the Vault October 12, 2017
Gerard K. O’Neill on Space Colonies
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Editor’s note: Gerard K. O’Neill pioneered the idea of human colonies in space. He conceived of human civilization throughout the solar system and said that by 2050, 200 million people could be living in habitats beyond the Earth, offering humanity a viable plan B. That date looks pretty unlikely now, but O’Neill’s ideas may still provide the blueprint for the future of humans in space.
by Monte Davis


Ever since Christopher Columbus made the rounds of potential royal backers, the exploration of new worlds has required as much persuasive salesmanship as it has intrepid navigation. Few men in that tradition have been as articulate as Professor Gerard K. O’Neill, a high-energy physicist who was a prominent advocate of human colonies in space.

In both scientific and popular articles, in lectures and on television, and in his successful books The High Frontier and 2081, O’Neill argued that the unlimited energy and materials of space could make possible a new and attractive life for millions of people. In his view, the established practice of launching costly chemical rockets would be replaced as soon by permanent habitation and large-scale manufacturing in space. What’s more, while his predecessors advocated metal-walled, compartmentalized “space stations,” O’Neill envisioned colonies that resembled the earth, with soil, greenery, even blue sky, sunshine, and clouds.

The concept behind O’Neill’s space colonies — that there’s more potential energy in high orbit than on earth — was elegantly simple. His first contribution to science came in 1956, when, as a 29-year-old physics instructor at Princeton, he worked on a new proton accelerator, a machine that made accelerating protons collide, permitting physicists to study the quirks of subatomic particles. Until that time, it was felt that particles had to accelerate and collide within the same chamber, a prerequisite that resulted in all sorts of design difficulties and expense. O’Neill’s “simple” solution? To have subatomic particles accelerate in one machine and collide in another. Though his skeptical colleagues challenged his ideas, O’Neill went on to design a “storage ring” that could store accelerated particles awaiting collision. Today, most subatomic particle accelerators are based on O’Neill’s storage ring concept.
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O’Neill colonies: A decades-long dream for settling space
Amazon's Jeff Bezos, like many before him, is enamored with the idea of spinning space cities that might sustain future humans.
By Korey Haynes | Published: Friday, May 17, 2019
RELATED TOPICS: PRIVATE SPACEFLIGHT | CREWED MISSIONS
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O’Neill colonies are an idea nearly as old as the space program, but they still hold value for the future.
NASA
Last week, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos revealed his spaceship company’s new lunar lander, dubbed Blue Moon, and he spelled out a bold and broad vision for humanity’s future in space. Faced with the limits of resources here on Earth, most fundamentally energy, he pointed to life in space as a solution.

“If we move out into the solar system, for all practical purposes, we have unlimited resources,” Bezos said. “We could have a trillion people out in the solar system.” And while colonies on other planets would be plagued by low gravity, long distances to Earth (leading to communication delays), and further limits down the road, those weaknesses are avoided if the colonies remain truly in space.

To that end, Bezos instead suggested people consider taking up residence in O’Neill colonies, a futuristic concept for space settlements first dreamed up decades ago. “These are very large structures, miles on end, and they hold a million people or more each.”
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The O'Neill cylinder (also called an O'Neill colony) is a space settlement concept proposed by American physicist Gerard K. O'Neill in his 1976 book The High Frontier: Human Colonies in Space.[1] O'Neill proposed the colonization of space for the 21st century, using materials extracted from the Moon and later from asteroids.[2]

An O'Neill cylinder would consist of two counter-rotating cylinders. The cylinders would rotate in opposite directions in order to cancel out any gyroscopic effects that would otherwise make it difficult to keep them aimed toward the Sun. Each would be 5 miles (8.0 km) in diameter and 20 miles (32 km) long, connected at each end by a rod via a bearing system. Their rotation would provide artificial gravity.[1]
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In the end we have to accept that God created ONLY the earth for Mankind.

There is no other world in the solar system or the universe


There are indeed planets around other stars. So God has nothing to do with them? Hmmmmm.... Food for thought.


He created them and can call the stars by name. All of them.
He created Earth and seeded it. He is the not so elusive alien that we keep searching for...
 
There's also the decades old concept of building colonies(cities) in space.

Interviews from the Vault October 12, 2017
Gerard K. O’Neill on Space Colonies
...

Editor’s note: Gerard K. O’Neill pioneered the idea of human colonies in space. He conceived of human civilization throughout the solar system and said that by 2050, 200 million people could be living in habitats beyond the Earth, offering humanity a viable plan B. That date looks pretty unlikely now, but O’Neill’s ideas may still provide the blueprint for the future of humans in space.
by Monte Davis


Ever since Christopher Columbus made the rounds of potential royal backers, the exploration of new worlds has required as much persuasive salesmanship as it has intrepid navigation. Few men in that tradition have been as articulate as Professor Gerard K. O’Neill, a high-energy physicist who was a prominent advocate of human colonies in space.

In both scientific and popular articles, in lectures and on television, and in his successful books The High Frontier and 2081, O’Neill argued that the unlimited energy and materials of space could make possible a new and attractive life for millions of people. In his view, the established practice of launching costly chemical rockets would be replaced as soon by permanent habitation and large-scale manufacturing in space. What’s more, while his predecessors advocated metal-walled, compartmentalized “space stations,” O’Neill envisioned colonies that resembled the earth, with soil, greenery, even blue sky, sunshine, and clouds.

The concept behind O’Neill’s space colonies — that there’s more potential energy in high orbit than on earth — was elegantly simple. His first contribution to science came in 1956, when, as a 29-year-old physics instructor at Princeton, he worked on a new proton accelerator, a machine that made accelerating protons collide, permitting physicists to study the quirks of subatomic particles. Until that time, it was felt that particles had to accelerate and collide within the same chamber, a prerequisite that resulted in all sorts of design difficulties and expense. O’Neill’s “simple” solution? To have subatomic particles accelerate in one machine and collide in another. Though his skeptical colleagues challenged his ideas, O’Neill went on to design a “storage ring” that could store accelerated particles awaiting collision. Today, most subatomic particle accelerators are based on O’Neill’s storage ring concept.
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O’Neill colonies: A decades-long dream for settling space
Amazon's Jeff Bezos, like many before him, is enamored with the idea of spinning space cities that might sustain future humans.
By Korey Haynes | Published: Friday, May 17, 2019
RELATED TOPICS: PRIVATE SPACEFLIGHT | CREWED MISSIONS
ON1
O’Neill colonies are an idea nearly as old as the space program, but they still hold value for the future.
NASA
Last week, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos revealed his spaceship company’s new lunar lander, dubbed Blue Moon, and he spelled out a bold and broad vision for humanity’s future in space. Faced with the limits of resources here on Earth, most fundamentally energy, he pointed to life in space as a solution.

“If we move out into the solar system, for all practical purposes, we have unlimited resources,” Bezos said. “We could have a trillion people out in the solar system.” And while colonies on other planets would be plagued by low gravity, long distances to Earth (leading to communication delays), and further limits down the road, those weaknesses are avoided if the colonies remain truly in space.

To that end, Bezos instead suggested people consider taking up residence in O’Neill colonies, a futuristic concept for space settlements first dreamed up decades ago. “These are very large structures, miles on end, and they hold a million people or more each.”
...
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The O'Neill cylinder (also called an O'Neill colony) is a space settlement concept proposed by American physicist Gerard K. O'Neill in his 1976 book The High Frontier: Human Colonies in Space.[1] O'Neill proposed the colonization of space for the 21st century, using materials extracted from the Moon and later from asteroids.[2]

An O'Neill cylinder would consist of two counter-rotating cylinders. The cylinders would rotate in opposite directions in order to cancel out any gyroscopic effects that would otherwise make it difficult to keep them aimed toward the Sun. Each would be 5 miles (8.0 km) in diameter and 20 miles (32 km) long, connected at each end by a rod via a bearing system. Their rotation would provide artificial gravity.[1]
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I USED TO love this stuff, but it can never happen.

Tell me how much fuel it would take to move this much material from the earth, into space. Then tell me how much fuel it would take to move this city and countryside and millions of gallons of water to escape velocity (7 miles per second) to escape earth orbit. And to leave the solar system you have to beat the sun's escape velocity (382 miles per second)

These are DREAMS. They're fun to theorize over, but it ain't possible
 
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There's also the decades old concept of building colonies(cities) in space.

Interviews from the Vault October 12, 2017
Gerard K. O’Neill on Space Colonies
...

Editor’s note: Gerard K. O’Neill pioneered the idea of human colonies in space. He conceived of human civilization throughout the solar system and said that by 2050, 200 million people could be living in habitats beyond the Earth, offering humanity a viable plan B. That date looks pretty unlikely now, but O’Neill’s ideas may still provide the blueprint for the future of humans in space.
by Monte Davis


Ever since Christopher Columbus made the rounds of potential royal backers, the exploration of new worlds has required as much persuasive salesmanship as it has intrepid navigation. Few men in that tradition have been as articulate as Professor Gerard K. O’Neill, a high-energy physicist who was a prominent advocate of human colonies in space.

In both scientific and popular articles, in lectures and on television, and in his successful books The High Frontier and 2081, O’Neill argued that the unlimited energy and materials of space could make possible a new and attractive life for millions of people. In his view, the established practice of launching costly chemical rockets would be replaced as soon by permanent habitation and large-scale manufacturing in space. What’s more, while his predecessors advocated metal-walled, compartmentalized “space stations,” O’Neill envisioned colonies that resembled the earth, with soil, greenery, even blue sky, sunshine, and clouds.

The concept behind O’Neill’s space colonies — that there’s more potential energy in high orbit than on earth — was elegantly simple. His first contribution to science came in 1956, when, as a 29-year-old physics instructor at Princeton, he worked on a new proton accelerator, a machine that made accelerating protons collide, permitting physicists to study the quirks of subatomic particles. Until that time, it was felt that particles had to accelerate and collide within the same chamber, a prerequisite that resulted in all sorts of design difficulties and expense. O’Neill’s “simple” solution? To have subatomic particles accelerate in one machine and collide in another. Though his skeptical colleagues challenged his ideas, O’Neill went on to design a “storage ring” that could store accelerated particles awaiting collision. Today, most subatomic particle accelerators are based on O’Neill’s storage ring concept.
...
~~~~~~~~~~~
O’Neill colonies: A decades-long dream for settling space
Amazon's Jeff Bezos, like many before him, is enamored with the idea of spinning space cities that might sustain future humans.
By Korey Haynes | Published: Friday, May 17, 2019
RELATED TOPICS: PRIVATE SPACEFLIGHT | CREWED MISSIONS
ON1
O’Neill colonies are an idea nearly as old as the space program, but they still hold value for the future.
NASA
Last week, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos revealed his spaceship company’s new lunar lander, dubbed Blue Moon, and he spelled out a bold and broad vision for humanity’s future in space. Faced with the limits of resources here on Earth, most fundamentally energy, he pointed to life in space as a solution.

“If we move out into the solar system, for all practical purposes, we have unlimited resources,” Bezos said. “We could have a trillion people out in the solar system.” And while colonies on other planets would be plagued by low gravity, long distances to Earth (leading to communication delays), and further limits down the road, those weaknesses are avoided if the colonies remain truly in space.

To that end, Bezos instead suggested people consider taking up residence in O’Neill colonies, a futuristic concept for space settlements first dreamed up decades ago. “These are very large structures, miles on end, and they hold a million people or more each.”
...
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The O'Neill cylinder (also called an O'Neill colony) is a space settlement concept proposed by American physicist Gerard K. O'Neill in his 1976 book The High Frontier: Human Colonies in Space.[1] O'Neill proposed the colonization of space for the 21st century, using materials extracted from the Moon and later from asteroids.[2]

An O'Neill cylinder would consist of two counter-rotating cylinders. The cylinders would rotate in opposite directions in order to cancel out any gyroscopic effects that would otherwise make it difficult to keep them aimed toward the Sun. Each would be 5 miles (8.0 km) in diameter and 20 miles (32 km) long, connected at each end by a rod via a bearing system. Their rotation would provide artificial gravity.[1]
...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Page of images;

I USED TO love this stuff, but it can never happen.

Tell me how much fuel it would take to move this much material from the earth, into space. Then tell me how much fuel it would take to move this city and countryside and millions of gallons of water to escape velocity (7 miles per second) to escape earth orbit. And to leave the solar system you have to beat the sun's escape velocity (382 miles per second)

These are DREAMS. They're fun to theorize over, but it ain't possible
I doesn't all have to come from Earth. Much could come from the Moon or asteroids steered to Earth's orbit. In fact hollowing out interior chambers in a large asteroid to make habitat, and use the asteroid for the raw materials needed, are one of the options that has been kicked around.

For that matter, such has been speculated with regard to Saturn's moon Iapetus. Hitch is it wasn't likely done by we humans, or the present era anyway;
(First of a six part series of long articles)
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Also, the future may hold new solutions to leaving Earth's gravity well, such as effective zero point energy systems.
 
It is fascinating to think and talk about, but another place for humans to live other than Earth is at least as fantastic as to discuss life after death, etc. It is as as likely (and perhaps more than) that there is paradise as that there is another planet that we could get to that would be habitable.
 
In the end we have to accept that God created ONLY the earth for Mankind.

There is no other world in the solar system or the universe


There are indeed planets around other stars. So God has nothing to do with them? Hmmmmm.... Food for thought.


He created them and can call the stars by name. All of them.
He created Earth and seeded it. He is the not so elusive alien that we keep searching for...

Many identify the deity you describe as being extraterrestrial.
 
In the end we have to accept that God created ONLY the earth for Mankind.

There is no other world in the solar system or the universe


There are indeed planets around other stars. So God has nothing to do with them? Hmmmmm.... Food for thought.


He created them and can call the stars by name. All of them.
He created Earth and seeded it. He is the not so elusive alien that we keep searching for...

Many identify the deity you describe as being extraterrestrial.

He is, but he exists outside of the universe we live in
 
In the end we have to accept that God created ONLY the earth for Mankind.

There is no other world in the solar system or the universe




The only life in the universe is on Earth. End of discussion. :cool:

Only applies to you and those of similar mindsets. In which case, just pass on by and don't bother to participate.

Others of us are on the other side of this coin, having already 'been there-done that' so to speak.
 
Before signing off for the next couple of days, this thread seems the best current one for this;
Fossil Discoveries Challenge Ideas About Earth’s Start
A series of fossil finds suggests that life on Earth started earlier than anyone thought, calling into question a widely held theory of the solar system’s beginnings.
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I'd pay to watch closed circuit tv of the naysayers go to Mars, for example, to live there.
 
We’re either alone or we’re not.

Both ideas are equally disturbing.
I dont believe we are alone at all, but EVERY planet we encounter seems to be a nightmarish world where no living thing can survive
We have only encountered a fraction of a fraction of .0000000000000000001 of the planets out there. There have to be earth like planets just based on odds alone.
 

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