There is an alternative to fossil fuels and it is NOT Electric Vehicles... and the difference is $660 billion VERSUS $51.1 quadrillion!

[BluesLegend]

They don't want to replace trucks....they want people to do without......force them to have smaller families, live in apartments instead of single family homes, eat less, eat less meat, and eat more crickets and bugs.....all part of their utopian/totalitarian dreams.

We will not be dictated to by the fruitcake insane left wingers and their dumbass climate BS.

 

[2aguy]

We will not be dictated to by the fruitcake insane left wingers and their dumbass climate BS.

If people keep voting for democrats...yes you will....

 

[BluesLegend]

If people keep voting for democrats...yes you will....

Civil disobedience, I'll flip them off and tell them to rot in hell.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Those of you that are reading this are among the first to learn of an alternative to doing what Biden has guaranteed!
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

So the reason for Biden's totally ignorant statement is to reduce global warming. Everyone agree?
We all agree "global warming" is due to CO2 emissions. Right?
So Biden and truly uninformed people advocate Electric Vehicles (EVs) for cars and trucks instead of fossil fuels.
But uninformed EV advocates don't seem to realize these simple facts:
1. To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!
Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
2. To replace at least 80% of all cars with EV(The average EV car gets .25 kWh per mile. The average American driver drives 14,263 miles per year.
There are 182 million drivers or a total drive miles of 2,603,853,280,000. At .25 kWh/mile that is a total of 650,963,320,000 kWh.
3. A total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh or more than 6 times the current electricity of
4,165,030,000,000 kWh done by 11,070 power plants or an average of 376,244,806 kWh.
Total kWh electricity generated In USA source: Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
4. To build the 68,038 ADDITIONAL power plants at a cost of $2,000/kWh will require: $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
This will destroy the annual revenue of the global oil and gas exploration and production industry is $5 trillion.fossil fuel industry

20 Incredible Oil And Gas Industry Statistics [2023]: Extraction, Products And Profit - Zippia

Research Summary. The oil and gas industry is a huge player in the world’s economy, and although it’s often controversial, there is no denying the impact it makes on our daily lives (and wallets). Here are some statistics about the oil and gas industry: In 2021, the world produced 4.2 billion...

www.zippia.com

BUT BUT BUT.... There is an alternative to "Rid of Fossil Fuels" and save the $5 Trillion into our GDP!

The alternative that will reduce or possibly rid the entire CO2 emissions!
CO2 can be used to produce fuels and chemical intermediates through several conversion routes but require significant energy input.
The chief cost factor is typically electricity, accounting for between 40-70% of the production costs,
and hence very low average grid electricity prices are required for CO2-derived methanol and methane to be competitive,

Putting CO2 to Use – Analysis - IEA

Putting CO2 to Use - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

So Electricity is the biggest COST!!! Wow...so the cost of EV conversions of just Trucks in the USA of building 68,038 nuclear power plants will be definitely more
expensive than using CO2 to produce fuels!!! People... there are some truly ignorant people in CHARGE!!!
Carbon Engineering (CE) has broken down the costs of a Direct air capture (DAC) systems
FACT:In a new research paper based on three years of data from a pilot plant, the CE team shows how it could be done for between $94 and $232 per metric ton.
At CE, we've been working on direct air capture since 2009, running our pilot plant since 2015, and we now have the data and engineering to prove that DAC can achieve costs below $100USD per ton

Pilot plant demonstrates low-cost conversion of CO2 into fuel

Reducing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is one of the most pressing concerns facing the world today. Cutting back the amount of CO2 that's newly pumped into the air is vital, but it might not be enough – we need to suck out some that's already up there. Direct air capture (DAC) systems have been…

newatlas.com

So in the USA the total CO2 emissions In 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled (6,600,000,000 tons) of carbon dioxide equivalents

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

So at $100 per ton of CO2 to be converted the cost will be $660,000,000,000! $660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
FOLKS!!! Do you understand?
We can all keep our gas cars/trucks...
we won't have to buy an EV unless we want too!
But more importantly... 129 million American households won't have to pay $1,653,679 per month for 20 years!

I KNOW I KNOW... what a ridiculous number BUT folks where have you heard any discussion of how we are going to pay for a total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh
or more than 6 times the current 4.15 Trillion kWh of electricity all needed by 80% of cars/Trucks in the USA!
$660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000! Is there any questions? Please folks tear the figures apart and EVEN IF I'm off by 90%...
$5,119,792,664,000,000 $5.19 Quadrillion Versus $660,000,000,000!

To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!

You might want to check your math.

You think there are 132 million tractor trailers in the US?

 

[healthmyths]

To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!

You might want to check your math.

You think there are 132 million tractor trailers in the US?

You are absolutely right about the massive error in the total required kWh was a typo error 132 million trucks is wrong!
So let's see if these numbers are correct.

1) How many kWh to go 1 mile in a EV truck?
The Port of Los Angeles and South Coast Air Quality Management District have demonstrated a short-range heavy-duty all-electric truck capable of hauling a fully loaded 40-foot (12.2 m) cargo container. It uses 2 kilowatt-hours per mile

Electric truck - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2) How many trucks are in the USA?
38.9 million trucks registered and used for business purposes (excluding government and farm) in 2020, representing 24.1% of all trucks registered Economics and Industry Data
3) How many miles traveled per year?
On average, a semi truck travels about 45,000 miles per year
How Many Miles Do Truckers Drive a Year?
80% trucks being EVs traveling 1,432,800,000,000 miles at 2 kWh per mile will use yearly about 2,865,600,000,000 kWh.
5) How much electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants?
4,165,030,000,000 kWh. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
6) There are 11,070 power plants generating an average of 376,244,806 kWh. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
7) Additional power plants needed: 2,865,600,000,000 kWh/generating 376,244,806kWh/plant or 7,616 new power plants.
8) Cost to build new power plants:
Modern-day reactors going for $5 billion to $10 billion.
Why America abandoned nuclear power (and what we can learn from South Korea)
Take a middle cost of $7.5 Billion times 7,616 NEW nuclear plants or total of : $57,122,383,272,149 .
9) Now which is the lower cost:
Building 7,616 new plants at $57,122,383,272,149 OR :
building Direct Air Capture(DAC) that would cost $660,000,000,000
Which is less expensive at $100 a ton to remove 100% of the CO2 in 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled 6,600,000,000 tons (13.2 trillion pounds) of carbon dioxide equivalents.Mar 24, 2023 or total cost of $660,000,000,000 remove ALL CO2.

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

Hmmm... $57,122,383,272,149 for 7,616 new electric generating plants or
$660,000,000,000 removes ALL USA CO2.

Please advise!!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are absolutely right about the massive error in the total required kWh was a typo error 132 million trucks is wrong!
So let's see if these numbers are correct.

1) How many kWh to go 1 mile in a EV truck?
The Port of Los Angeles and South Coast Air Quality Management District have demonstrated a short-range heavy-duty all-electric truck capable of hauling a fully loaded 40-foot (12.2 m) cargo container. It uses 2 kilowatt-hours per mile

Electric truck - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2) How many trucks are in the USA?
38.9 million trucks registered and used for business purposes (excluding government and farm) in 2020, representing 24.1% of all trucks registered Economics and Industry Data
3) How many miles traveled per year?
On average, a semi truck travels about 45,000 miles per year
How Many Miles Do Truckers Drive a Year?
80% trucks being EVs traveling 1,432,800,000,000 miles at 2 kWh per mile will use yearly about 2,865,600,000,000 kWh.
5) How much electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants?
4,165,030,000,000 kWh. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
6) There are 11,070 power plants generating an average of 376,244,806 kWh. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
7) Additional power plants needed: 2,865,600,000,000 kWh/generating 376,244,806kWh/plant or 7,616 new power plants.
8) Cost to build new power plants:
Modern-day reactors going for $5 billion to $10 billion.
Why America abandoned nuclear power (and what we can learn from South Korea)
Take a middle cost of $7.5 Billion times 7,616 NEW nuclear plants or total of : $57,122,383,272,149 .
9) Now which is the lower cost:
Building 7,616 new plants at $57,122,383,272,149 OR :
building Direct Air Capture(DAC) that would cost $660,000,000,000
Which is less expensive at $100 a ton to remove 100% of the CO2 in 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled 6,600,000,000 tons (13.2 trillion pounds) of carbon dioxide equivalents.Mar 24, 2023 or total cost of $660,000,000,000 remove ALL CO2.

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

Hmmm... $57,122,383,272,149 for 7,616 new electric generating plants or
$660,000,000,000 removes ALL USA CO2.

Please advise!!!

$660,000,000,000 removes ALL USA CO2.

I doubt this per ton number.
As I said, DAC is one of the biggest wastes of money and power I can think of.

 

[healthmyths]

$660,000,000,000 removes ALL USA CO2.

I doubt this per ton number.
As I said, DAC is one of the biggest wastes of money and power I can think of.

I apologize I didn't add the below link.
Keith explains, “Until now, research suggested it would cost $600USD per ton to remove CO2 from the atmosphere using DAC technology, making it too expensive to be a feasible solution to removing legacy carbon at scale. At CE, we’ve been working on direct air capture since 2009, running our pilot plant since 2015, and we now have the data and engineering to prove that DAC can achieve costs below $100USD per ton.

Carbon Engineering's Large-scale Direct Air Capture Breakthrough

Carbon Engineering founder David Keith publishes first viable solution for the commercialization of large-scale Direct Air Capture tech.

carbonengineering.com

OK so you doubt the number of $660 billion to rid 6.6 billion tons of CO2 in the USA.
Is it OK then to build 7,616 NEW nuclear plants at $57,122,383,272,149?
Why America abandoned nuclear power (and what we can learn from South Korea)
BECAUSE of 2,865,600,000,000 kWh be needed JUST for EV trucks?
Remember Biden's guarantee???
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are absolutely right about the massive error in the total required kWh was a typo error 132 million trucks is wrong!
So let's see if these numbers are correct.

1) How many kWh to go 1 mile in a EV truck?
The Port of Los Angeles and South Coast Air Quality Management District have demonstrated a short-range heavy-duty all-electric truck capable of hauling a fully loaded 40-foot (12.2 m) cargo container. It uses 2 kilowatt-hours per mile

Electric truck - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2) How many trucks are in the USA?
38.9 million trucks registered and used for business purposes (excluding government and farm) in 2020, representing 24.1% of all trucks registered Economics and Industry Data
3) How many miles traveled per year?
On average, a semi truck travels about 45,000 miles per year
How Many Miles Do Truckers Drive a Year?
80% trucks being EVs traveling 1,432,800,000,000 miles at 2 kWh per mile will use yearly about 2,865,600,000,000 kWh.
5) How much electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants?
4,165,030,000,000 kWh. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
6) There are 11,070 power plants generating an average of 376,244,806 kWh. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
7) Additional power plants needed: 2,865,600,000,000 kWh/generating 376,244,806kWh/plant or 7,616 new power plants.
8) Cost to build new power plants:
Modern-day reactors going for $5 billion to $10 billion.
Why America abandoned nuclear power (and what we can learn from South Korea)
Take a middle cost of $7.5 Billion times 7,616 NEW nuclear plants or total of : $57,122,383,272,149 .
9) Now which is the lower cost:
Building 7,616 new plants at $57,122,383,272,149 OR :
building Direct Air Capture(DAC) that would cost $660,000,000,000
Which is less expensive at $100 a ton to remove 100% of the CO2 in 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled 6,600,000,000 tons (13.2 trillion pounds) of carbon dioxide equivalents.Mar 24, 2023 or total cost of $660,000,000,000 remove ALL CO2.

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

Hmmm... $57,122,383,272,149 for 7,616 new electric generating plants or
$660,000,000,000 removes ALL USA CO2.

Please advise!!!

38.9 million trucks registered and used for business purposes (excluding government and farm) in 2020, representing 24.1% of all trucks registered Economics and Industry Data

How many big rigs?

 

[healthmyths]

38.9 million trucks registered and used for business purposes (excluding government and farm) in 2020, representing 24.1% of all trucks registered Economics and Industry Data

How many big rigs? .

There are 4.06 million semi-trucks operating in the U.S. as of 2021.

https://www.zippia.com/advice/trucking-industrystatistics/#:~:text=There%20are%204.06%20million%20semi,the%20U.S.%20as%20of%202021.

How many kWh to go 1 mile in a semi-truck?

Currently there are 4 million Class 8 trucks that drive, on average, 63,000 miles annually. While some regional trucks travel 30,000-40,000 miles in a year, other Class 8 tractors travel five times that amount.
A 300-kWh battery would go 150 miles before needing approximately an hour to recharge from a 300-kWh fast charger.
That works out to 2kWh/mile

Electrifying US long haul trucks will require 504 TWh a year. But that won’t be the hardest part.

The energy needed to support electric semis is enormous, from a generation perspective. However, it is the transmission and distribution angle that makes this challenge truly daunting for utility planning and investment.

www.utilitydive.com

Using the above figures...
4,000,000 semis average 63,000 miles or 252,000,000,000 miles X 2 miles/kWh or 504,000,000,000 kWh.
This is equal to 12% MORE electricity of the current electricity generated in the USA by 11,070 power plants...4,165,030,000,000.
That's a total of 376,244,806 kWh per plant or we'll need another 1,340 power plants that cost @ $2,000/kWh or
$1,008,000,000,000,000 JUST for 4 million All electric Semi-trucks!

 

[justoffal]

To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!

You might want to check your math.

You think there are 132 million tractor trailers in the US?

I doubt there are even close to that many world wide...in fact I doubt that there are even 13.2m....

 

[healthmyths]

I doubt there are even close to that many world wide...in fact I doubt that there are even 13.2m....

There are 4.06 million semi-trucks operating in the U.S. as of 2021.

https://www.zippia.com/advice/trucking-industrystatistics/#:~:text=There%20are%204.06%20million%20semi,the%20U.S.%20as%20of%202021.

How many kWh to go 1 mile in a semi-truck?
A 300-kWh battery would go 150 miles before needing approximately an hour to recharge from a 300-kWh fast charger.
That works out to 2kWh/mile
The average semi-truck, 63,000 miles annually.
While some regional trucks travel 30,000-40,000 miles in a year, other Class 8 tractors travel five times that amount.

• 38.9 million trucks registered and used for business purposes (excluding government and farm) in 2020, representing 24.1% of all trucks registered.
• 4.06 million Class 8 trucks (including tractors and straight trucks) in operation in 2021, up 2.3% from 2020.

Economics and Industry Data

www.trucking.org

They follow a regular route and stay within 250 miles of their home terminal.

OTR Driving vs. Regional vs. Local Trucking

Updated April 2022 Once you’ve completed your truck driver training courses and earned your Commercial Driver’s License (CDL), you still need to determine

advanced.edu

38.9 million local trucks average 250 miles/day 5 days 50 weeks = 2,431,250,000,000 miles. @ 1.89 kWh/mile:
4,595,062,500,000 kWh X 80% are EV trucks, NOT semi-trucks 3,676,050,000,000 kWh. Added to the semi-truck average of
63,000 miles/year or 201,600,000,000 miles by semis or at 1.89 kWh over 381,024,000,000 kWh for combined kWh of
4,976,086,500,000 kWh per year for 80% of Semi-trucks and non semi-Trucks More than all the kWh generated in the USA of
4,165,030,000,000 in 2021 by all 11,070 power plants
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
And this doesn't account for the cars.

 

[justoffal]

There are 4.06 million semi-trucks operating in the U.S. as of 2021.

https://www.zippia.com/advice/trucking-industrystatistics/#:~:text=There%20are%204.06%20million%20semi,the%20U.S.%20as%20of%202021.

How many kWh to go 1 mile in a semi-truck?
A 300-kWh battery would go 150 miles before needing approximately an hour to recharge from a 300-kWh fast charger.
That works out to 2kWh/mile
The average semi-truck, 63,000 miles annually.
While some regional trucks travel 30,000-40,000 miles in a year, other Class 8 tractors travel five times that amount.

• 38.9 million trucks registered and used for business purposes (excluding government and farm) in 2020, representing 24.1% of all trucks registered.
• 4.06 million Class 8 trucks (including tractors and straight trucks) in operation in 2021, up 2.3% from 2020.

Economics and Industry Data

www.trucking.org

They follow a regular route and stay within 250 miles of their home terminal.

OTR Driving vs. Regional vs. Local Trucking

Updated April 2022 Once you’ve completed your truck driver training courses and earned your Commercial Driver’s License (CDL), you still need to determine

advanced.edu

38.9 million local trucks average 250 miles/day 5 days 50 weeks = 2,431,250,000,000 miles. @ 1.89 kWh/mile:
4,595,062,500,000 kWh X 80% are EV trucks, NOT semi-trucks 3,676,050,000,000 kWh. Added to the semi-truck average of
63,000 miles/year or 201,600,000,000 miles by semis or at 1.89 kWh over 381,024,000,000 kWh for combined kWh of
4,976,086,500,000 kWh per year for 80% of Semi-trucks and non semi-Trucks More than all the kWh generated in the USA of
4,165,030,000,000 in 2021 by all 11,070 power plants
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
And this doesn't account for the cars.

Yikes

 

[healthmyths]

Yikes

It is MORE than "YIKES" as you and all Americans with this promotion of EVs are evidently not being informed by the biased and "uninformed" MSM that only discusses just the EV cars.

To provide all the electricity that 80% of EV trucks will use, i.e. 4,976,086,500,000 kWh per year it will require based on the cost of the following:

Nuclear Power plants: cost per kWh:
Using the average costs: of $10,300/kWh or total of $51,253,690,950,000,000
Using the average power generated by average power plant that as of Today the 11,070 power plants or an average of 376,244,806 kWh each or total number of nuclear power plants JUST for truck EVs: 13,225 power plants.
Source: U.S. energy capital costs by source 2021 | Statista.

Wind Turbine Power Plants average cost: $875 per kWh or total of $4,229,673,525,000,000
Wind turbine prices averaged $800–$950 per kilowatt (kW) in 2021

Land-Based Wind Market Report: 2022 Edition

The U.S. wind industry installed 13,413 megawatts (MW) of new wind capacity in 2021, bringing the cumulative total to 135,886 MW.

www.energy.gov

Solar Panel Power Plants average cost: An average commercial solar system will cost around $2.87 per watt

How Much Do Commercial Solar Panels Cost?

Here we’re looking at whether commercial solar panels are worth it for businesses, how much they cost, and what they could save you on your bills.

greenbuildingelements.com

Using the average costs: of $2.87 Wh times 4,976,086,500,000,000 or $14,281,368,255,000,000
Since Biden " guarantees to rid fossil fuels"

• Nuclear plants $51,253,690,950,000,000
• Wind Turbines:$ 4,229,673,525,000,000
• Solar Panels: $14,281,368,255,000,000

Note the above numbers are in Quadrillions!
At the lowest price wind turbines of $4.229 Quadrillion that works out per 129 million American households per month for
20 years or $138,617 per month for 20 years per American household. Where will that come from???

Please find where these numbers are wrong!

 

[healthmyths]

Biden "guaranteed"!
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM


Since Biden said, I assume that he also meant to get rid of ALL FOSSIL Fuels electric generating plants.
So how many of the 11,070 current power plants are fossil fueled?
Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
Current type of fossil fuel power plants

• 4,240 natual gas 38.30%
• 2,413 coal 21.80%
• 100 petroleum 0.90%
• 6,753 plants 61.00% of the 11,170 in 2021 generated of the 4.12 trillion kWh or 2,513,200,000,000 kWh.

So according to Biden then we'll need to replace 6,753 plants at a lowest priced method, wind turbines at average cost per wind turbine farm construction averaging $800–$950 per kilowatt (kW) in 2021 replacing 6,753 fossil fuel plants is: 2,513,200,000,000 kWh X $875/kWh or $2,199,050,000,000,000 to replace current fossil fuel plants as Biden has guaranteed!

Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

U.S. annual electricity generation and generation capacity by fuel/energy sources and definitions of important electricity terms.

www.eia.gov

Nuclear plants $51,253,690,950,000,000
Wind Turbines:$ 4,229,673,525,000,000 plus $2,199,050,000,000,000 to replace current fossil fuel plants.
Solar Panels: $14,281,368,255,000,000

Again PLEASE all you defenders of EVs and believers of this Biden statement:
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM


someone has to pay!

 

[healthmyths]

Will any of you that believe Biden's guarantee to rid fossil fuels, please correct any of the previous comments I posted?
I really want to see what alternative financing you might come up with to add 20,000 NEW non fossil fuel plants replacing the 6,753 current fossil fuel and 13,225 new plants required by EV Trucks/cars!

 

[justoffal]

It is MORE than "YIKES" as you and all Americans with this promotion of EVs are evidently not being informed by the biased and "uninformed" MSM that only discusses just the EV cars.

To provide all the electricity that 80% of EV trucks will use, i.e. 4,976,086,500,000 kWh per year it will require based on the cost of the following:

Nuclear Power plants: cost per kWh:
Using the average costs: of $10,300/kWh or total of $51,253,690,950,000,000
Using the average power generated by average power plant that as of Today the 11,070 power plants or an average of 376,244,806 kWh each or total number of nuclear power plants JUST for truck EVs: 13,225 power plants.
Source: U.S. energy capital costs by source 2021 | Statista.

Wind Turbine Power Plants average cost: $875 per kWh or total of $4,229,673,525,000,000
Wind turbine prices averaged $800–$950 per kilowatt (kW) in 2021

Land-Based Wind Market Report: 2022 Edition

The U.S. wind industry installed 13,413 megawatts (MW) of new wind capacity in 2021, bringing the cumulative total to 135,886 MW.

www.energy.gov

Solar Panel Power Plants average cost: An average commercial solar system will cost around $2.87 per watt

How Much Do Commercial Solar Panels Cost?

Here we’re looking at whether commercial solar panels are worth it for businesses, how much they cost, and what they could save you on your bills.

greenbuildingelements.com

Using the average costs: of $2.87 Wh times 4,976,086,500,000,000 or $14,281,368,255,000,000
Since Biden " guarantees to rid fossil fuels"

• Nuclear plants $51,253,690,950,000,000
• Wind Turbines:$ 4,229,673,525,000,000
• Solar Panels: $14,281,368,255,000,000

Note the above numbers are in Quadrillions!
At the lowest price wind turbines of $4.229 Quadrillion that works out per 129 million American households per month for
20 years or $138,617 per month for 20 years per American household. Where will that come from???

Please find where these numbers are wrong!

Good job with the numbers.
I'm not in disagreement with you. I knew it was impossible... Just didn't do the numbers.... Now I have them. One correction though The cost is not calculator per kilowatt hour The cost is calculated per kilowatt yield.

Jo

 

[BluesLegend]

Look these climate morons are not just against fossil fuel energy, they are against ALL forms of energy including solar and wind. Ditto for hydroelectric and nuclear. Their position is that any energy use by humans hurts the environment.