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    "Esotericism, pure and simple, speaks of no personal God; therefore are we considered as Atheists. But, in reality, Occult Philosophy, as a whole, is based absolutely on the ubiquitous presence of God, the Absolute Deity; and if IT Itself is not speculated upon, as being too sacred and yet incomprehensible as a Unit to the finite intellect, yet the entire Philosophy is based upon Its Divine Powers as being the Source of all that breathes and lives and has existence.

    In every ancient Religion the ONE was demonstrated by the many. In Egypt and India, in Chaldæ and Phœnicia, and finally in Greece, the ideas about Deity were expressed by multiples of three, five and seven; and also by eight, nine and twelve great Gods, which symbolized the powers and properties of the One and Only Deity. This was related to that infinite subdivision by irregular and odd numbers to which the metaphysics of these nations subjected their ONE DIVINITY.

    Thus constituted, the cycle of the Gods has all the qualities and attributes of the ONE SUPREME AND UNKNOWABLE; for in this collection of divine Personalities, or rather of Symbols personified, dwells the ONE GOD, the GOD ONE, that God which, in India, is said to have no Second."

    HP Blavatsky in Esoteric Instructions pp. 99-100
     
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    "The tendency of modern civilization is a reaction towards animalism, towards a development of those
    qualities which conduce to the success in life of man as an animal in the struggle for animal existence.
    Theosophy seeks to develop the human nature in man in addition to the animal, and at the sacrifice of the
    superfluous animality which modern life and materialistic teachings have developed to a degree which is
    abnormal for the human being at this stage of his progress.

    Men cannot all be Occultists, but they can all be Theosophists. Many who have never heard of the Society are
    Theosophists without knowing it themselves; for the essence of Theosophy is the perfect harmonizing of the
    divine with the human in man, the adjustment of his god-like qualities and aspirations, and their sway over
    the terrestrial or animal passions in him. Kindness, absence of every ill feeling or selfishness, charity,
    goodwill to all beings, and perfect justice to others as to oneself, are its chief features. He who teaches
    Theosophy preaches the gospel of goodwill; and the converse of this is true also — he who preaches the
    gospel of goodwill, teaches Theosophy."

    Blavatsky letter of 1888
     
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    Madame Blavatsky and her teaching of Theosophy and the
    perceptions of the carnated spirit is somewhat how certain Jesuit sects perceived the process, but not the Michaeline sects.
    I don't believe in a literal physical soul or spirit I teach that you reflect the ESSENCE/nature about you not form type spirit. You do this by leaving your will or works or ideas that get emulated, but not literally pass on a physical ghostly spirit. This is why malakh or son of G0d means reflections of G0d which is not a form. The Creator of creation has an essence/nature that we reflect and thus can manifest in being in line with that will and way.
    The children of Israel who follow that non form G0d (an essence not a figure or physical form) are called sons of G0d for reflecting that essence of life (the creation). To be THE SON or TOP (arch) son arch malakh is to say you reflect that nature of the creation more then others and thus manifest that essence. But also the role is to describe what tha6t essence is so we understand our creation and our purpose and our direction better as well as understand right and wrong through this understanding based on knowing the will of G0d (the way of creation).
    Basically Religion is still a philosophy, man's quest to understand his life, his creation, his purpose and place in this world, thus Moshiach is another term for one finding that essence and best describing and bringing it to light in this world. (To Enlighten us means to end the darkness-end of our ignorance of our purpose, place and direction in life).
    Where we lift the veil and finally grasp the way things are.


    Soul flying life(Ezekiel 13:20-22).

    The soul is eternal in that the essense of ones knowledge and persona can be passed on in logic and ideas and formed ethics and opinions, through writing and shared learning one exists again as a replica of that original thinking being. Now body and soul being eternal is now a possibility.......

    soul has three garments: thought, speech, and action. In our world, the World of Action, the soul, which is spiritual in nature, does not have the means to give expression to thought, speech, or action unless it has a physical body in which it is united. Therefore, as a result of their transgression, the very thing which Adam's and Chava's souls lost was the ability to remain permanently in a physical world within a physical body.
     
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    Philosophy requires at lease One.

    There could be more though.

    The paradox of One is that He/She/It must have existed forever.

    But there is another paradox wherein all of us existed forever.

    If One can exist forever then logical all can also exist forever.
     
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    Your "belief" is irrelevant, if in fact man does possess a spirit.
     
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    Who is "your" bozo ??

    Can't tell who your antecedent is.

    You must have flunked every English class you ever took in public high school.
     
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    You take ear plugs, blind folds, put on oven mits on yourself and what can you feel, hear, or see outside of one's processor (the vessel body).
    Once your brain (memory processor) dies, all memory and breath (nepes)dies and as Psalms says, no more memory in death.

    Common reasoning, science, computer technology teaches us that memory and thought processes and the conveying energy all requires a processor.
    Our processor brain and vessel body once gone is liken to the computer hardrive and motherboard burning out.
    There's no more thought, memory until you place that back in a new fresh vessel.
    The Judaic teaching of Resurrection is to be able to see and be rewarded for what your good deeds brought a more perfected (paradise) in life, not in death.

    Deuteronomy..Devarim: 30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day,That I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse;Therefore choose life, that you may live.....
    Death was & is seen as unatural and was seen as something man could eventually overcome while working for a paradise in life by following a simple path of righteousness.

    The creation of man in the essence likeness(reflection) of that power of life (essence/spirit) we call G-d is then giving back that essence (spirit) to G-d at death (because it is not physical it never dies, it remains eternal that spirit).

    That's what King Solomon meant when he wrote, "The dust will return to the ground as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:17)


    “Soul in the OT [Old Testament] is nepe_s Nepe_s comes from an original root meaning to breathe, and thus since death is without breath then the soul (breath) ceases after death. “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) Num. 6:6, 9:7, Lev. 21:11 – a dead body is a dead “nephesh”As scripture tells us, when you die the body goes back to the dust of the earth (Ecc 3:20) and the soul (breath) or spirit (nature of your being) also dissipates into the energy surrounding this, our layer of existence, the earth(Ecc 12:7, Psalms 22:29 & 104:29-30, Ezekiel 18:4 & 20, Joshua 10:28-39)Our Spirit (which is an essence of our being & not an energy) shouldn't be portrayed as an energy, for even if it was described as such it could not escape from this earth or have any senses or conciousness without a processor for it, which is what our brain is. We were formed from processions, layer after layer of micro realms to have concious energy, by placing the soul into the body, which acts as the processor, otherwise there would be no "Life" to experience.
     
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    That is your understanding, nothing more.
     
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    Adam and Eve were never created immortal in the first place. They never had the ability to remain permanently in a physical body. No one ever had that ability......

    What they lost was the ability to remain in the highest realm of conscious existence where God dwells as a living being and not some impersonal essence.

    Thats why they did not die in the very day they ate of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, their death was not a biological death, but they were expelled from the realm of God to the east of Eden in the wilderness among every sort of foul and loathsome beast and bird where for the rest of their lives the sweat of their brow, thinking, would only produce thorns and thistles. This is the death they had to die for the rest of their days.


    If you really believe that Adam and Eve lost the ability to remain permanently in a physical body, you are no messiah, much less an educated Jew. You don't even qualify as a sunday school teacher, an agnostic or even an atheist...

    You do however bear a remarkable resemblance to that ever elusive talking serpent that crawls on its belly and eats dust....
     
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