The USS Liberty Memorial

[georgephillip]

No Love for Liberty?

"Many intelligence and military officials dispute Israel's explanation.[51]

"Dean Rusk, U.S. Secretary of State at the time of the incident, wrote:

"' I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander.

"'Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations.

"I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous'".[52]

USS Liberty - Wiki

 

[docmauser1]

"He further writes that timely knowledge of this decision and preparatory moves toward it might have frustrated Israeli designs for the conquest of Syria’s Golan Heights and, in the sense of Ennes’s accusations, provides 'a plausible thesis that Israel deliberately decided to incapacitate the signals-collecting American ship and leave no one alive to tell the story of the attack.'"

Spying for Syria! Who could've known.

 

[georgephillip]

Spying for USA

Who could miss it?

 

[docmauser1]

Spying for USA. Who could miss it?

Everybody, it seems.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

So George, are you saying the USS Liberty was spying for Syria?

 

[georgephillip]

DocDrivel is saying the Liberty was on a mission for Syria.

I'm saying Liberty was spying on all four countries involved in the June '67 war and overheard Israeli communications that elites in the Jewish state were willing to kill to keep out of the history books.

So far they've been successful.

Thanks to drivel like doc's.

 

[docmauser1]

DocDrivel

So feisty!

is saying the Liberty was on a mission for Syria.

Do I look like Ennes?

I'm saying Liberty was spying on all four countries involved in the June '67 war and overheard Israeli communications that elites in the Jewish state were willing to kill to keep out of the history books.

There's no shortage of individuals, alluding they were NSA directors, of course.

So far they've been successful.

Of course! That busted up bathtub is still sailin' the web under the green flag of islam, fully laden with arab propaganda.

 

[strollingbones]

I'm not a muslim. You know this. Why keep up with the silly accusations? I want to help you help yourself, and the only way I can do that is to simply encourage you to exterminate yourself before your stupidity rubs off on other people, mainly your children.

Does everyone know how much of a deranged psycho you are?...
Click http://www.usmessageboard.com/3142924-post149.html

Try the USS Cole. A pointless attack by Islamic extremists. The USS Liberty bombing is nothing but twisting shit to suit an argument by the verysame Islamic extremists and/or pathetic Islamic extremist support groups.

Grow up, rag head.

the uss liberty bombing in nothing...really? twisting shit by islamic extremists...really...so the men of the uss liberty are lying....or being used by islamics.....when the liberty was attacked...was it by an islamic country? islamic pilots....no.

again a rah rah military person who turns their backs on the men of the uss liberty.....out of a misguided loyality to a foreign country....i remember when that was a defination of a traitor

 

[strollingbones]

Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.

Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel.

The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery.

USS Liberty - Israeli Pilot Speaks Up

 

[strollingbones]

rai·tor
   /ˈtreɪtər/ Show Spelled[trey-ter] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust.
2.
a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.


if you deny what the men of the uss liberty say...then you fit the defination of a traitor

 

[georgephillip]

"Senator Adlai Stevenson III in 1980, his last year as a United States Senator from Illinois, invited Jim Ennes to his Senate office for a private, two hour meeting to discuss the USS Liberty attack and coverup.

"Following the private meeting, Ennes was invited back the next day to discuss the attack with members of Stevenson's staff, along with members of the staff of Senator Barry Goldwater and members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

"In that meeting, staff members told Ennes that they found his story convincing, but that they would recommend to both senators that they not pursue an investigation because an investigation would only antagonize Israeli interests while 'nothing good could come of it.'

"Goldwater accepted that staff recommendation. "Stevenson did not.

"Instead, Stevenson called a news conference in which he announced that he was convinced that the attack was deliberate and that the survivors deserved an investigation.

"He would, he said, spend the remaining few weeks of his Senate term attempting to arrange for an inquiry."

Israeli Pilot Speaks...

 

[docmauser1]

rai·tor 1. a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust. 2. a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.

Sounds like schmuks I'm bashin here.

 

[georgephillip]

"Senator Adlai Stevenson III in 1980, his last year as a United States Senator from Illinois, invited Jim Ennes to his Senate office for a private, two hour meeting to discuss the USS Liberty attack and coverup.

"Following the private meeting, Ennes was invited back the next day to discuss the attack with members of Stevenson's staff, along with members of the staff of Senator Barry Goldwater and members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

"In that meeting, staff members told Ennes that they found his story convincing, but that they would recommend to both senators that they not pursue an investigation because an investigation would only antagonize Israeli interests while 'nothing good could come of it.'

"Goldwater accepted that staff recommendation. "Stevenson did not.

"Instead, Stevenson called a news conference in which he announced that he was convinced that the attack was deliberate and that the survivors deserved an investigation.

"He would, he said, spend the remaining few weeks of his Senate term attempting to arrange for an inquiry."

Israeli Pilot Speaks...

"Almost immediately, the government of Israel contacted the White House and offered to settle the outstanding $40million damage claims for $6million an amount equal to one dollar for each Jewish victim of the Holocaust.

"Vice President Walter Mondale quickly agreed to that offer just before Christmas while Congress and President Carter were on vacation.

"The Department of State followed immediately with a press release, reported on the front page of the New York Times, which announced, 'The book is now closed on the USS Liberty.'

"Indeed, from that point on, it was impossible to generate any congressional interest in the Liberty at all.

"Senator Stevenson's staff told me later that they felt the settlement was directly related to Senator Stevenson's announced plan to hold an inquiry, and was engineered to block forever any inquiry plans."

Israeli Pilot...

 

[u2scram]

USS LIBERTY - THE SHIP WITHOUT A COUNTRY

"Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the identity of the USS Liberty.[5] Some survivors, in addition to some U.S. diplomats and intelligence officials involved in the incident continue to dispute these official findings, saying the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was not a mistake,[6] and it remains "the only maritime incident in U.S. history where [U.S.] military forces were killed that was never investigated by the [U.S.] Congress."[7]" WIKIPEDIA

 

[georgephillip]

Also from Wiki

President Lyndon B. Johnson's soaring defense of Liberty:

"This time President Johnson ordered the recall with the comment that he did not care if everyman drowned and the ship sank, but that he would not embarrass his allies..."

"U.S. rescue attempts: At least two rescue attempts were launched from U.S. aircraft carriers nearby but were recalled, according to the Liberty's senior Naval Security Group officer, Lieutenant Commander David Lewis. Lewis made an audio recording and later wrote about a meeting 6th Fleet Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis requested in his cabins: 'He told me that since I was the senior Liberty survivor on board he wanted to tell me in confidence what had actually transpired. He told me that upon receipt of our SOS, aircraft were launched to come to our assistance and then Washington was notified. He said that the Secretary of Defense (Robert McNamara) had ordered that the aircraft be returned to the carrier, which was done.

"'RADM Geis then said that he speculated that Washington may have suspected that the aircraft carried nuclear weapons so he put together another flight of conventional aircraft that had no capability of carrying nuclear weapons. These he launched to assist us and again notified Washington of his actions. Again McNamara ordered the aircraft recalled.

"'He requested confirmation of the order being unable to believe that Washington would let us sink. This time President Johnson ordered the recall with the comment that he did not care if every man drowned and the ship sank, but that he would not embarrass his allies. This is, to the best of my ability, what I recall transpiring 30 years ago.'"

Lyndon Johnson allegedly made a great deal of money from the Vietnam War. (which killed millions of Vietnamese and almost 60,000 Americans)

He may have been protecting US arms sales to the Jewish State when he ordered that second rescue called off.

The skipper of Liberty was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his service that day.

Maybe some of the vets on this board would know if the CMO is ever given in friendly fire incidents?