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Yes all of our Founding Fathers were practicing Christians but Christianity had absolutely nothing to do with the founding of our nation. Seriously,you Socialist/Progressive nutters really do need to lay off the Al Jazeera,HuffPo,and Moveon.org stuff. Yikes!
Yes all of our Founding Fathers were practicing Christians but Christianity had absolutely nothing to do with the founding of our nation. Seriously,you Socialist/Progressive nutters really do need to lay off the Al Jazeera,HuffPo,and Moveon.org stuff. Yikes!
They were all white males.......so obviously this is a white male country
More stupidity & ignorance from the usual "God Damn America!!" suspects. Every political message board i've ever been on always has a couple of Socialist/Progressive nutters claiming our Founding Fathers weren't Christians. It's par for the course with these nutters. Al Jazeera,Huffington & Moveon.org told em so i guess. Kooky stuff.
Clueless as usual Libo
Nobody said they weren't Christians. The thread is about the US not being based on Christianity. Now you can participate in the thread with the rest of the grownups
LilOlLady said:Our Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity.
All men were not created equal in the Bible....slavery was openly accepted. As a matter of fact, when God passed down the Ten Comandments, he intentionally left slavery off the listWhy are Liberals so bound and determined to prove America was not founded on Religious Ideal at all. We have complete religious freedom in this country. What is the big deal if some of our core beliefs, Like the idea that all men are created equal(under god or not) and that you should not kill, or steal or Rape your own kids, Where inspired by Judeo/Christian Core values or not. They are still good Ideas are they not?
We do not need Christian (Jewish actually) values to know that killing, stealing and raping children is wrong. All societies have these values
If we are founded on Christian values, why are laws against having other gods, idol worshipping, keeping holy the sabbath, using the lords name in vain and coveting all considered to be unconstitutional?
No one said the Constitution ended slavery, they said the way was provided to bring it to an end through the Constitution.
Take a look at Article V.
The Constitution provides the American people the opportunity to do anything they want, including bringing back slavery, if enough of the American people vote for it. So what was your point, again?
not exactly-----if our congressmen won't give us an opportunity to vote on a constitutional amendment, we can't do shit.
The Constitution provides the American people the opportunity to do anything they want, including bringing back slavery, if enough of the American people vote for it. So what was your point, again?
not exactly-----if our congressmen won't give us an opportunity to vote on a constitutional amendment, we can't do shit.
If enough states call for a Constitutional convention they have to call one. Probably.
Our founding fathers were men of faith. Nuff said
They were less Christian than most of our political leaders today
But behaved more like a Christian should than our current politicians
Slavery was actively discouraged in the Bible.
All men were not created equal in the Bible....slavery was openly accepted. As a matter of fact, when God passed down the Ten Comandments, he intentionally left slavery off the listWhy are Liberals so bound and determined to prove America was not founded on Religious Ideal at all. We have complete religious freedom in this country. What is the big deal if some of our core beliefs, Like the idea that all men are created equal(under god or not) and that you should not kill, or steal or Rape your own kids, Where inspired by Judeo/Christian Core values or not. They are still good Ideas are they not?
We do not need Christian (Jewish actually) values to know that killing, stealing and raping children is wrong. All societies have these values
If we are founded on Christian values, why are laws against having other gods, idol worshipping, keeping holy the sabbath, using the lords name in vain and coveting all considered to be unconstitutional?
Slavery was actively discouraged in the Bible.
Why are Liberals so bound and determined to prove America was not founded on Religious Ideal at all. We have complete religious freedom in this country. What is the big deal if some of our core beliefs, Like the idea that all men are created equal(under god or not) and that you should not kill, or steal or Rape your own kids, Where inspired by Judeo/Christian Core values or not. They are still good Ideas are they not?
All men were not created equal in the Bible....slavery was openly accepted. As a matter of fact, when God passed down the Ten Comandments, he intentionally left slavery off the list
We do not need Christian (Jewish actually) values to know that killing, stealing and raping children is wrong. All societies have these values
If we are founded on Christian values, why are laws against having other gods, idol worshipping, keeping holy the sabbath, using the lords name in vain and coveting all considered to be unconstitutional?
Why are Liberals so bound and determined to prove America was not founded on Religious Ideal at all. We have complete religious freedom in this country. What is the big deal if some of our core beliefs, Like the idea that all men are created equal(under god or not) and that you should not kill, or steal or Rape your own kids, Where inspired by Judeo/Christian Core values or not. They are still good Ideas are they not?
All men were not created equal in the Bible....slavery was openly accepted. As a matter of fact, when God passed down the Ten Comandments, he intentionally left slavery off the list
We do not need Christian (Jewish actually) values to know that killing, stealing and raping children is wrong. All societies have these values
If we are founded on Christian values, why are laws against having other gods, idol worshipping, keeping holy the sabbath, using the lords name in vain and coveting all considered to be unconstitutional?
Because we have religious freedom dude. Figure it out.
The ten commandments have very little to do with the principles of freedom.
But the founding fathers all agreed freedom is a Christian tenet, and that freedom emanates from God.
All men were not created equal in the Bible....slavery was openly accepted. As a matter of fact, when God passed down the Ten Comandments, he intentionally left slavery off the list
We do not need Christian (Jewish actually) values to know that killing, stealing and raping children is wrong. All societies have these values
If we are founded on Christian values, why are laws against having other gods, idol worshipping, keeping holy the sabbath, using the lords name in vain and coveting all considered to be unconstitutional?
Because we have religious freedom dude. Figure it out.
Let me do some figger'n....
Oh I see now.....So we WEREN'T founded as a Christian nation
Thanks for clarifying
The U.S. NOT founded upon Christianity
Many Christian's who think of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as "proof" of a Christian America. ...
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Our Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. .... Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural .... He led the men who turned America from an English colony into a self-governing nation. ...
Thomas Jefferson - John Adams - Benjamin Franklin - Thomas Painefreethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html - Cached - Similar
Because we have religious freedom dude. Figure it out.
Let me do some figger'n....
Oh I see now.....So we WEREN'T founded as a Christian nation
Thanks for clarifying
I never claimed we were founded as a Christian Nation. Of course we were not. We were founded as a nation with the freedom to worship as you please.
This argument was never about whether or not we were a christian Nation. It is about whether or not Our Founders used Christian ideals when they formed this Nation. Or at least I thought that was what we were debating.
The U.S. NOT founded upon Christianity
Many Christian's who think of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as "proof" of a Christian America. ...
The U.S. NOT founded upon Christianity - Cached - Similar
Our Founding Fathers Were NOT Christians They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. .... Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural .... He led the men who turned America from an English colony into a self-governing nation. ...
Thomas Jefferson - John Adams - Benjamin Franklin - Thomas Painefreethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html - Cached - Similar
America was not founded upon Christianity, it was founded upon Christian principles. On that there is proof in the Declaration of Independence.
Today, America has crumbled because the Christian principles that made this nation great have been exchanged for immorality and stupidity.
In the current administration, with an unamerican as president, and idealists as his puppets, and Muslim religion as it's new master, America is a lost nation.
May God help America, and those who are following the Almighty in their lives.
The proof of the above will play itself out as each day passes. I know you can all see it, but fools are willingly blind.
Slavery was actively discouraged in the Bible.
That is a very matter-of-fact-sounding statement, QW.
Can you provide scriptural evidence?
Slavery was actively discouraged in the Bible.
That is a very matter-of-fact-sounding statement, QW.
Can you provide scriptural evidence?
The word translated as slave in the Old Testament is more accurately translated as servant or hired worker. Israelites were forbidden to own have fellow Israelites as servants for more than 6 years, they had to be released from their contracts on the seventh year. (Exod 21:2-6, Deut 15:12-15, and Jer 34:14) Exceptions were made for foreign born and thier children (Lev 25:44-47) but they seemed to be more like serfs than slaves, and Israel was enjoined to treat them as quests and respect them. If they ever mistreated them, and the servant was injured as a result, they were freed from the contract. (Exod 21:26-27) They were also specifically prohibited from returning escaped slaves. (Deut 23:15-16)
