The time has come to invade Canada!

[Vandalshandle]

You want a Canadian style of health care? What the heck, do you have a death wish?


"Father" of Canadian Health Care Admits its a Failure

"Just yesterday, I wrote about how unpopular the British healthcare system has become. Today comes news that the man largely responsible for Canada's conversion to a single-payer health care system has admitted the system's failure:"

Father of Canadian Health Care Admits its a Failure - Civitas Review

Report Health care failing to meet needs of Canadians

Why would I want us to accept commie healthcare where everyone is treated equal? Everyone knows the best healthcare should only be made available to those who can afford it
We need to invade Canada and stop this commie incursion into North America

Yes everyone is treated so equally that they make you wait months for a cancer operation, that had it been timely would have resolved the situation, but because they make you wait, you get to see it metastasize, and then you get to die. A friend who works for the BC Dept. of Corrections, sold his home so he could get his wife into a US cancer treatment center. She is still alive. The ones forced to wait, are dead.

No thanks.

Sniff....sniff

I smell bullshit

Yes, every time you open your trap it smells foul. Here you go. People who are famous enough that they get news coverage.........

Canadian Premier to travel to U.S. for heart surgery
Canadian Premier to travel to U.S. for heart surgery - Toronto Headlines Examiner.com

OTTAWA–Belinda Stronach, the MP for Newmarket-Aurora and former cabinet minister, travelled outside Canada's health-care system to California for some of her breast cancer treatment earlier this year.

Stronach, diagnosed in the spring with a type of breast cancer that required a mastectomy and breast reconstruction, went to California in June at her Toronto doctor's suggestion, a spokesperson confirmed.

Stronach travels to U.S. for cancer treatment Toronto Star

Canada, we are constantly being told by single-payer advocates, is a model social democracy with a medical delivery system that we should envy. Oddly, the people who make such claims never want to answer a question that Bill Steigerwald reiterates in a recent column

If Canada’s national health care system is so dang wonderful, why are so many Canadians coming to America to pay for their own medical care?

And it’s not only pregnant women, like the one who recently had to drive to Montana to have her baby, who cross into the U.S. on a daily basis seeking health care. Thus, Steigerwald inquires further:

Why is the hip replacement center of Canada in Ohio–at the Cleveland Clinic, where 10% of its international patients are Canadians … Why is Brain and Spine Center in Buffalo serving about 10 border-crossing Canadians a week?

By way of answering his own questions, Steigerwald provides the following datum:

Number of Canadians on waiting lists for referrals to specialists or for medical services–875,000.

It would appear that Canadians with sufficient financial means are seeking medical treatment in a country where such waiting lists exist only in the the fond dreams of single-payer advocates.

And what about the Canadians who don’t have the money to come here for care? I guess they just pray that their illnesses don’t kill them before the vaunted Canadian system can fit them in.

- See more at: Health Care BS - CANADIANS RUNNING TO U.S. FOR HEALTH CARE

Health Care BS - CANADIANS RUNNING TO U.S. FOR HEALTH CARE

So...the filthy rich can go anywhere they choose

Still doesn't back your bullshit sob story about Canadians dying for lack of cancer treatment

Well, if it was good enough for Sarah Palin, it is good enough for me!

 

[Vandalshandle]

I have to say, however, that I would have a cultural problem living in a country where people put mayonnaise on French fries.....

 

[rightwinger]

The White House Petition A Call To Invade Canada 8226 ChristWire

Mr. President, we haven’t seen eye to eye on many things, but I believe that we all have a common enemy. That enemy is Canada.

I fear that we must once again rise up as a nation to meet a threat. A foe that is just beyond our borders. A enemy that looks just like us. Do not buy into their mild manners and PR machine. They are terrorists through and through. I do not believe that it was a coincidence that all of the 911 terrorists came to America through Canada. I believe they knew and were a party to the terrorist acts on that day.
I humbly suggest that we as a nation, launch a preemptive attack on the godless frozen god forsaken land, to safe guard our sovereignty and safety. Much as we invaded Afghanistan and then Iraq to rid those nations of Muslim extremists, we must now turn our gaze of indignant freedom and wrath to the north. Canada is a nation that knowingly harbors terrorists.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I'm more worried about the Dutch. Dutch Elm disease was not just an act of god, you know.....

 

[rightwinger]

More reason to invade Canada

They send these stupid geese down to shit on our golf courses

 

[rightwinger]

The US has spent BILLIONS erecting a wall between the US and Mexico

Yet, I have never had a Mexican shit on my lawn

Time to build a wall between the US and Canada to stop them from sending geese with orders to "Shit on the US"

 

[Toro]

Cancer is one of those little diseases where if you catch it in time you can beat it. The Canadian health system is all based on waiting. The waiting list right now is around 850,000. Most of those are not time sensitive. But there are a significant number that are.

Wait times for cancer treatment in Canada is 3.5 weeks, only slightly longer than in the US.

Wait times for medical treatment getting longer Fraser Institute report CTV News
Medscape Medscape Access

 

[RUNVS]

Cancer is one of those little diseases where if you catch it in time you can beat it. The Canadian health system is all based on waiting. The waiting list right now is around 850,000. Most of those are not time sensitive. But there are a significant number that are.

Wait times for cancer treatment in Canada is 3.5 weeks, only slightly longer than in the US.

Wait times for medical treatment getting longer Fraser Institute report CTV News
Medscape Medscape Access

Also while not necessarily the most reliable source wikipedia says that Canada sits at 11th for life expectancy at 82.5 years while the USA sits at 36th at 79.8 years. I could be wrong but I think Canada spends less per capita on healthcare than the USA does as well.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Toro]

Cancer is one of those little diseases where if you catch it in time you can beat it. The Canadian health system is all based on waiting. The waiting list right now is around 850,000. Most of those are not time sensitive. But there are a significant number that are.

Wait times for cancer treatment in Canada is 3.5 weeks, only slightly longer than in the US.

Wait times for medical treatment getting longer Fraser Institute report CTV News
Medscape Medscape Access

Also while not necessarily the most reliable source wikipedia says that Canada sits at 11th for life expectancy at 82.5 years while the USA sits at 36th at 79.8 years. I could be wrong but I think Canada spends less per capita on healthcare than the USA does as well.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Canada spends a little more than half per capita iirc.

 

[westwall]

Cancer is one of those little diseases where if you catch it in time you can beat it. The Canadian health system is all based on waiting. The waiting list right now is around 850,000. Most of those are not time sensitive. But there are a significant number that are.

Wait times for cancer treatment in Canada is 3.5 weeks, only slightly longer than in the US.

Wait times for medical treatment getting longer Fraser Institute report CTV News
Medscape Medscape Access

Also while not necessarily the most reliable source wikipedia says that Canada sits at 11th for life expectancy at 82.5 years while the USA sits at 36th at 79.8 years. I could be wrong but I think Canada spends less per capita on healthcare than the USA does as well.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yes it does. It benefits from a huge amount of subsidization from the US taxpayer. We pay very large medical experiment bills with the high cost of drugs we have to spend, while Canada gets those same drugs at a significant discount. We also have a large population of third world immigrants who have a lower life expectancy.

And you are incorrect, the wait time for a radiation treatment is 3.5 weeks. The time spent waiting for the diagnosis can be up to 8 months! In other words, from the initial diagnosis, to the actual visit with an oncologist can be more than half a year.

 

[Toro]

Cancer is one of those little diseases where if you catch it in time you can beat it. The Canadian health system is all based on waiting. The waiting list right now is around 850,000. Most of those are not time sensitive. But there are a significant number that are.

Wait times for cancer treatment in Canada is 3.5 weeks, only slightly longer than in the US.

Wait times for medical treatment getting longer Fraser Institute report CTV News
Medscape Medscape Access

Also while not necessarily the most reliable source wikipedia says that Canada sits at 11th for life expectancy at 82.5 years while the USA sits at 36th at 79.8 years. I could be wrong but I think Canada spends less per capita on healthcare than the USA does as well.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yes it does. It benefits from a huge amount of subsidization from the US taxpayer. We pay very large medical experiment bills with the high cost of drugs we have to spend, while Canada gets those same drugs at a significant discount. We also have a large population of third world immigrants who have a lower life expectancy.

And you are incorrect, the wait time for a radiation treatment is 3.5 weeks. The time spent waiting for the diagnosis can be up to 8 months! In other words, from the initial diagnosis, to the actual visit with an oncologist can be more than half a year.

Link?

 

[westwall]

Cancer is one of those little diseases where if you catch it in time you can beat it. The Canadian health system is all based on waiting. The waiting list right now is around 850,000. Most of those are not time sensitive. But there are a significant number that are.

Wait times for cancer treatment in Canada is 3.5 weeks, only slightly longer than in the US.

Wait times for medical treatment getting longer Fraser Institute report CTV News
Medscape Medscape Access

Also while not necessarily the most reliable source wikipedia says that Canada sits at 11th for life expectancy at 82.5 years while the USA sits at 36th at 79.8 years. I could be wrong but I think Canada spends less per capita on healthcare than the USA does as well.

List of countries by life expectancy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Yes it does. It benefits from a huge amount of subsidization from the US taxpayer. We pay very large medical experiment bills with the high cost of drugs we have to spend, while Canada gets those same drugs at a significant discount. We also have a large population of third world immigrants who have a lower life expectancy.

And you are incorrect, the wait time for a radiation treatment is 3.5 weeks. The time spent waiting for the diagnosis can be up to 8 months! In other words, from the initial diagnosis, to the actual visit with an oncologist can be more than half a year.

Link?

Section D refers to Canada specifically....

http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~idjlaw/PDF/15-2/15-2 Ma.pdf

 

[percysunshine]

.

This is the Google Map of every McDonalds in Canada:


Mc Donalds - Google Maps


We already invaded them, and they did not even notice...

.

 

[Toro]

Section D refers to Canada specifically....

http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~idjlaw/PDF/15-2/15-2 Ma.pdf

No, I mean to link where it can take up to 8 months to see an oncologist for diagnosis.

That does happen for non-critical things. My father had to wait about a year to see a neurologist for a pinched nerve. However, I've never heard that for a cancer diagnosis.

 

[westwall]

Section D refers to Canada specifically....

http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~idjlaw/PDF/15-2/15-2 Ma.pdf

No, I mean to link where it can take up to 8 months to see an oncologist for diagnosis.

That does happen for non-critical things. My father had to wait about a year to see a neurologist for a pinched nerve. However, I've never heard that for a cancer diagnosis.

Yes, Canada's emergency treatments are fine. It's when you get into the morass of the paperwork that the misery begins.

This is an older study, it has been updated (the results were worse) but I can't find a link to it right now.

Critical Issues Bulletin - Waiting Your Turn Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada


Edit: This is for non-oncology related medical wait times. I can't find the one for the oncology rates at the moment.

 

[David Jeffrey Spetch]

Gee US citizens are bright (sarcasm) one would think they have made enugh enemies as it is. I know you guys are jealous of us Canadians, I mean you don't ever hear of us wanting to invade you guys.

You name yourselves after the continent many countries reside upon instead of naming yourselves after your own country. Is that because you are too ashamed of your own country to name yourselves after it instead of priding yourselves on a continent shared by many countries?

That is kind of how it looks and I can't blame anyone for not being interested in taking over the USA.

Taking over the USA would be like painting a bulls eye on your head with a shoot me sign.

Hey if you guys are going to dish it out, you had better be willing to take it, I mean you are after all Canada's ass end with an intellect to match.

love

David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good be strong!

 

[Picaro]

Gee US citizens are bright (sarcasm) one would think they have made enugh enemies as it is. I know you guys are jealous of us Canadians, I mean you don't ever hear of us wanting to invade you guys.

You name yourselves after the continent many countries reside upon instead of naming yourselves after your own country. Is that because you are too ashamed of your own country to name yourselves after it instead of priding yourselves on a continent shared by many countries?

That is kind of how it looks and I can't blame anyone for not being interested in taking over the USA.

Taking over the USA would be like painting a bulls eye on your head with a shoot me sign.

Hey if you guys are going to dish it out, you had better be willing to take it, I mean you are after all Canada's ass end with an intellect to match.

love

David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good be strong!

This Spetch guy rocks. The board needs more such astute observers and commentators.

 

[rightwinger]

Gee US citizens are bright (sarcasm) one would think they have made enugh enemies as it is. I know you guys are jealous of us Canadians, I mean you don't ever hear of us wanting to invade you guys.

You name yourselves after the continent many countries reside upon instead of naming yourselves after your own country. Is that because you are too ashamed of your own country to name yourselves after it instead of priding yourselves on a continent shared by many countries?

That is kind of how it looks and I can't blame anyone for not being interested in taking over the USA.

Taking over the USA would be like painting a bulls eye on your head with a shoot me sign.

Hey if you guys are going to dish it out, you had better be willing to take it, I mean you are after all Canada's ass end with an intellect to match.

love

David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good be strong!

Canada is a boil on the butt of North America

They are a communist nation who is waiting for the day they can invade peace loving America. They have long been suspected of maintaining weapons of mass destruction

If Obama is smart, he will attack Canada before it is too late

The rest of the world will cheer

 

[Nutz]

The rest of the world wouldn't care. canada has ZERO significance.

 

[hjmick]

Of course you do. Who doesn't? But with this administration, they'll take a wrong turn at Albuquerque and end up in Mexico City instead of Montreal.