The Terrorists Have Won.

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    A good but also very sad column by Jack Hunter...


    Since 9/11, Senator Lindsey Graham has said repeatedly that we must fight the terrorists “over there” so we don’t have to fight them “over here.” But this week, Graham threw that all out the window. Apparently, we are now at war everywhere. Forever.

    Commenting on the controversial Section 1031 of the National Defense Authorization Act — which many contend gives the federal government new powers to arrest American citizens without charge — Graham made clear this week that “1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland.”

    The entire world is now a “battlefield”? “Including the homeland”?

    There have been serious constitutional questions raised recently concerning whether our federal government should be able to arrest or assassinate American citizens overseas without charge or trial. This new and largely uncharted legal territory has been troublesome. But arresting or assassinating American citizens here in the United States without trial? Rounding up and holding American citizens indefinitely without charge? What country is this?

    This is a new and unprecedented government power that should scare the living hell out of every last American. Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) rightly called it “one of the most anti-liberty pieces of legislation of our lifetime.” Jim Gilmore, former Virginia governor and chairman of the Congressional Panel on Terrorism, roundly denounced it: “The provisions of this bill undermine the basic safeguards that we enjoy as Americans. It is dangerous, and should not be supported by anyone: Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, citizen or non-citizen.”



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    What has happened to our Country? So many Americans just willing to sit back on their couches allowing their Governement to take all their freedoms away. Where are all the protests?
     
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    The power vests entirely with the president and not subject to judicial review. The president is democrat. Now either it will be protested and repealed if a republican is elected OR, the democrats don't anticipate an election where they might lose.

    Conceivably, the president could do what Hugo Chavez has done and that's designate any candidate running against him an enemy of the state.
     
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    Anyone can be "Detained" for just about anything now. It's so sad. Yet so many Americans just don't care. Or they'll actually defend the Government on issues like this. The Gestapo really is here folks. That's not just paranoia or exaggeration. Have your papers on you at all times people. Just like in good ole Nazi Germany. How can the People accept this?
     
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    LOL do you actually think a republican president would throw away this executive power? Keep dreaming, this thing just puts in writing what both presidents have been doing since 2001. The outrage is a little late.
     
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    Not. The president cannot just say someone is an enemy and have them arrested without cause, that is unconstitutional. Only socialists support that idea. Socialists like obamaturd need to leave this country, period.
     
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    They will realize it when they come and get their guns.
     
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    Civil rights - check

    The Economy - check

    Thousands dead - check

    tens of thousands maimed - check

    millions out of work - check

    Wealth redistributed to the top 1% - check

    sent jobs to China - check

    Threatens Americans - check

    Holds millions of Americans hostage - check

    Works to see American infrastructure decay - check

    Turns Americans against each other - check

    Let him die - check

    Applauds executions - check

    Slashes America's future by slashing education - check

    Yep, right wing conservative confederate Republicans have won. They have checked off nearly every point on their agenda.
     
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    Assuming the following is legit text from that Bill?

    No US citizen can be locked up by the military.



    SEC. 1032. REQUIREMENT FOR MILITARY CUSTODY.


     
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    No they haven't. We aren't dead or subject to their style of radical islam
     

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