The Sandy Burgler Saga Continues

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While libs and the liberal media continue to go after the Justice Dept over the firing of lawyers; they have all but ignored this story

Sandy Burgler has cut a deal to keep his theft of classified documents from being investagated. If this would have been Condi who stole and destroyed documents related to 9-11 - the left would be screaming



Samuel R. Berger, the Clinton White House national security adviser who was caught taking highly classified documents from the National Archives, has agreed to forfeit his license to practice law.
In a written statement issued by Larry Breuer, Mr. Berger's attorney, the former national security adviser said he pleaded guilty in the Justice Department investigation, accepted the penalties sought by the department and recognized that his law license would be affected.
"I have decided to voluntarily relinquish my license," he said. "While I derived great satisfaction from years of practicing law, I have not done so for 15 years and do not envision returning to the profession. I am very sorry for what I did, and I deeply apologize."
In giving up his license, Mr. Berger avoids being cross-examined by the Board on Bar Counsel, where he risked further disclosure of specific details of his theft. The agreement is expected to be formalized today.
Mr. Berger, national security adviser from 1997 to 2001, was convicted of removing documents from the Archives in 2005 while preparing to testify before the September 11 commission.
Fined $50,000, sentenced to 100 hours of community service and barred from access to classified material for three years, he also was ordered to undergo a polygraph test if asked -- although the Justice Department has declined to administer the test despite urging by Rep. Thomas M. Davis III of Virginia, ranking Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Governmental Reform.
In February, Mr. Davis called for a new investigation by the committee into the Berger theft, saying the Justice Department gave him a "free pass" in its investigation. In a terse letter signed by 17 Republicans, he said the department was "unacceptably incurious" about Mr. Berger's visits to the Archives in May 2002 and July 2003 and never told the September 11 commission he removed original, uninventoried documents.
David Marin, the committee's Republican staff director, said the Justice Department told the September 11 commission it had everything Mr. Berger removed from the Archives and the nation's national-security exposure was "zero."
But, Mr. Marin said, no one told the commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents, which he could have taken without detection.
"We wanted the highest possible level of assurance that Mr. Berger did not take other documents," Mr. Marin said. "We still have the same concerns. Obvious investigative tools were not used. If you do not look, you will obviously not find the evidence."
Brian McNicoll, Mr. Davis' spokesman, said yesterday the decision by Mr. Berger to accept disbarment rather than face questions "does seem to cast doubt on claims by Mr. Berger and the Department of Justice that he need not complete the terms of his plea agreement and submit to a polygraph because he has revealed everything of significance he has to offer."
The Justice Department has said it was unaware of any new facts to support a new investigation.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Richard A. Hertling, in a letter to government reform committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman, California Democrat, said an "extensive investigation" led to a guilty plea and the department "stands by its investigation."
Mr. Hertling said the department devoted "significant resources" to the Berger probe, conducted more than 50 interviews and reviewed thousands of pages of documents. He also disputed Mr. Davis' conclusion that the department did not inquire about Mr. Berger's first two visits to the Archives.
"Neither Mr. Berger nor any other witness provided the department with evidence that Mr. Berger had taken any documents beyond the five referenced in the plea agreement," he said.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070516-113137-9942r.htm
 
I remember seeing these hearings of C-Span some years ago. Funny how the left has selective memories.... But what would be nice is instead of pointing fingers and putting blame on specific parties. It would be most responsible to except blame and move on.
It would be interesting to see what Rosie and Charlie Sheen would have to say about 9/11 and what Sandy Burger shredded? would they still be holding fast to there theories? Not that they matter anyways but just a thought.:eusa_shifty:
 
I remember seeing these hearings of C-Span some years ago. Funny how the left has selective memories.... But what would be nice is instead of pointing fingers and putting blame on specific parties. It would be most responsible to except blame and move on.
It would be interesting to see what Rosie and Charlie Sheen would have to say about 9/11 and what Sandy Burger shredded? would they still be holding fast to there theories? Not that they matter anyways but just a thought.:eusa_shifty:

Libs suffer from selective memory, selective outrage, and selective racism

Sandy was covering for Bill - and we all know it
 
Yeah he was doing a job. I can't say I blame him really, with regards to the age old way of covering up things. He was the fall guy and had juice to cover it up and everyone would be none the wiser!

The Clinton legacy needs to be protected at all costs
 
Well saying that means Hillary is running on her wisdom right? She has deep pockets but she is going to have to have some originality to make a legacy.
IMO that is and thus far she hasn't.
 
Well saying that means Hillary is running on her wisdom right? She has deep pockets but she is going to have to have some originality to make a legacy.
IMO that is and thus far she hasn't.

Hillary does not have a chance on winning the WH

Poll after poll shows 50% of the people will not vote her under any conditions

She is a very unpopular person
 
Hillary does not have a chance on winning the WH

Poll after poll shows 50% of the people will not vote her under any conditions

She is a very unpopular person

it is still early and she might pull something together? All of these candidates have to do something to modify what is going on right now. It is all pretty stale. The issues are very clear but these folks aren't answering the concerns. Like throwing craps wthout dice----no joy:eusa_doh:
 
it is still early and she might pull something together? All of these candidates have to do something to modify what is going on right now. It is all pretty stale. The issues are very clear but these folks aren't answering the concerns. Like throwing craps wthout dice----no joy:eusa_doh:

Hillary is even pissing off her base

He has more positions on the issues then a Bill Clinton intern
 
Only RSR could start a thread with a very legitimate topic, like the criminal Sandy Berger, and have it descend into a stupid "Hillary is evil!" mantra.

Jesus Christ.
 
THIS from the original link.

The Justice Department has said it was unaware of any new facts to support a new investigation.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Richard A. Hertling, in a letter to government reform committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman, California Democrat, said an "extensive investigation" led to a guilty plea and the department "stands by its investigation."
Mr. Hertling said the department devoted "significant resources" to the Berger probe, conducted more than 50 interviews and reviewed thousands of pages of documents. He also disputed Mr. Davis' conclusion that the department did not inquire about Mr. Berger's first two visits to the Archives.
"Neither Mr. Berger nor any other witness provided the department with evidence that Mr. Berger had taken any documents beyond the five referenced in the plea agreement," he said.

this is the republican run justice dept saying the above about the issue.

maybe gonzales is protecting berger, for some reason?

care
 
THIS from the original link.



this is the republican run justice dept saying the above about the issue.

maybe gonzales is protecting berger, for some reason?

care

I agree. Personally, I'd welcome an investigation on Berger. At first, I thought he only took copies of the documents. But if there's compelling evidence that he took and destroyed originals let's investigate and prosecute accordingly. It's just too bad that some people are so narrow minded that they refuse to accept that the Bush administration and the DoJ are the ones refusing to investigate.

Oh I know let's blame the media and the Dems instead.
 
Only RSR could start a thread with a very legitimate topic, like the criminal Sandy Berger, and have it descend into a stupid "Hillary is evil!" mantra.

Jesus Christ.

Did I bring up Hillary?

Is it my fault she is so unpiopular?
 
I agree. Personally, I'd welcome an investigation on Berger. At first, I thought he only took copies of the documents. But if there's compelling evidence that he took and destroyed originals let's investigate and prosecute accordingly. It's just too bad that some people are so narrow minded that they refuse to accept that the Bush administration and the DoJ are the ones refusing to investigate.

Oh I know let's blame the media and the Dems instead.


We only have the eyewitness testimony and Burglers confession

Besides that, not much evidence

I would like to know why he is not in jail
 
I agree. Personally, I'd welcome an investigation on Berger. At first, I thought he only took copies of the documents. But if there's compelling evidence that he took and destroyed originals let's investigate and prosecute accordingly. It's just too bad that some people are so narrow minded that they refuse to accept that the Bush administration and the DoJ are the ones refusing to investigate.

Oh I know let's blame the media and the Dems instead.

I hear you:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070516-113137-9942r.htm

Samuel R. Berger, the Clinton White House national security adviser who was caught taking highly classified documents from the National Archives, has agreed to forfeit his license to practice law.
In a written statement issued by Larry Breuer, Mr. Berger's attorney, the former national security adviser said he pleaded guilty in the Justice Department investigation, accepted the penalties sought by the department and recognized that his law license would be affected.
"I have decided to voluntarily relinquish my license," he said. "While I derived great satisfaction from years of practicing law, I have not done so for 15 years and do not envision returning to the profession. I am very sorry for what I did, and I deeply apologize."
In giving up his license, Mr. Berger avoids being cross-examined by the Board on Bar Counsel, where he risked further disclosure of specific details of his theft. The agreement is expected to be formalized today.
Mr. Berger, national security adviser from 1997 to 2001, was convicted of removing documents from the Archives in 2005 while preparing to testify before the September 11 commission.
Fined $50,000, sentenced to 100 hours of community service and barred from access to classified material for three years, he also was ordered to undergo a polygraph test if asked -- although the Justice Department has declined to administer the test despite urging by Rep. Thomas M. Davis III of Virginia, ranking Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Governmental Reform.
In February, Mr. Davis called for a new investigation by the committee into the Berger theft, saying the Justice Department gave him a "free pass" in its investigation. In a terse letter signed by 17 Republicans, he said the department was "unacceptably incurious" about Mr. Berger's visits to the Archives in May 2002 and July 2003 and never told the September 11 commission he removed original, uninventoried documents.
David Marin, the committee's Republican staff director, said the Justice Department told the September 11 commission it had everything Mr. Berger removed from the Archives and the nation's national-security exposure was "zero."
But, Mr. Marin said, no one told the commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents, which he could have taken without detection.
"We wanted the highest possible level of assurance that Mr. Berger did not take other documents," Mr. Marin said. "We still have the same concerns. Obvious investigative tools were not used. If you do not look, you will obviously not find the evidence."
Brian McNicoll, Mr. Davis' spokesman, said yesterday the decision by Mr. Berger to accept disbarment rather than face questions "does seem to cast doubt on claims by Mr. Berger and the Department of Justice that he need not complete the terms of his plea agreement and submit to a polygraph because he has revealed everything of significance he has to offer."
Gee, ya think?
The Justice Department has said it was unaware of any new facts to support a new investigation.
Acting Assistant Attorney General Richard A. Hertling, in a letter to government reform committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman, California Democrat, said an "extensive investigation" led to a guilty plea and the department "stands by its investigation."
Mr. Hertling said the department devoted "significant resources" to the Berger probe, conducted more than 50 interviews and reviewed thousands of pages of documents. He also disputed Mr. Davis' conclusion that the department did not inquire about Mr. Berger's first two visits to the Archives.
"Neither Mr. Berger nor any other witness provided the department with evidence that Mr. Berger had taken any documents beyond the five referenced in the plea agreement," he said.
 
Scooter Libby may face jail time for lying to a grand jury. However, if you're a democrat who is caught stealing, destroying and altering classified documents in regards to terror attacks inside America's homeland, this only gets you a simple fine. Yes, Sandy Burger walks free even after his admission of guilt
 

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