The Real America vs 'Thought Crimes'

Since you cannot find any such link, you have essentially admitted you lied.

I didn't lie. I made assumptions about your character based on what I already understand about you and people like you. Even if you personally would tolerate the heathens (doubt) much of your ilk wouldn't.

Of course not, you dunce.

Why?

Judeo-Christian....the faith of our Founders, the basis of our Constitution.

Yeah, whatever. You think Christianity losing prominence in politics and life is the reason for bad stuff.

My mission here has always been education

In your 90 THOUSAND posts do you really think you've done anything more than preach to your crowd? You have accomplished nothing.



"Judeo-Christian....the faith of our Founders, the basis of our Constitution.
Yeah, whatever. You think Christianity losing prominence in politics and life is the reason for bad stuff."

Why do you insist on pretending that the Old Testament is not a part of the New????

Ignorance?


And, I can make an argument that the Judeo-Christian faith, like no other, was predicate to Western Civilization.
 
Since you cannot find any such link, you have essentially admitted you lied.

I didn't lie. I made assumptions about your character based on what I already understand about you and people like you. Even if you personally would tolerate the heathens (doubt) much of your ilk wouldn't.

Of course not, you dunce.

Why?

Judeo-Christian....the faith of our Founders, the basis of our Constitution.

Yeah, whatever. You think Christianity losing prominence in politics and life is the reason for bad stuff.

My mission here has always been education

In your 90 THOUSAND posts do you really think you've done anything more than preach to your crowd? You have accomplished nothing.



"My mission here has always been education
In your 90 THOUSAND posts do you really think you've done anything more than preach to your crowd? You have accomplished nothing."


Perhaps you should observe the numbers of those who read a thread vs those who comment in same.
 
The question dealt with whether or not I would punish those with whom I disagreed.

Of course not, you dunce.

"Why?"


Because I believe in freedom and liberty...but I might verbally thrash 'em....because I'm really good at that.

You're confused against sweetheart. I was asking why you wouldn't support a Christian theocracy.


Because I am a firm adherent to the Constitution, you fool.

Democrats.....I'll assume you are one.....have a history of advancing Islam, which charges whose who live under Islam but aren't Muslim, a tax.

Can you find any post where I championed that?

Of course you can't: you are simply wounded by the OP which put your side in a terrible light vis-a-vis America's heritage.

Glad it hurt.
 
Why do you insist on pretending that the Old Testament is not a part of the New????

Excuse me? All I am saying is you think your religious views losing prominence in the world is the cause of bad stuff.


View such as the sanctity of human life?

You have a problem with that????



Actually every Leftist view has a problem with that....

None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."




Now....how can a Democrat/Liberal find a way to disagree?
 
Because I am a firm adherent to the Constitution, you fool.

How will you bring people back to Christ and ensure the survival of Christianity without manipulation and control? You can't. Your religion is dying and will continue to do so until people like you only exist in history.
 
Now....how can a Democrat/Liberal find a way to disagree?

I have made hundreds of posts in defense of Donald Trump and other conservatives. I don't belong to a side. I choose to think for myself instead.


"I don't belong to a side. I choose to think for myself instead."


Can you provide several of the books that have informed your geopolitical views?
 
Because I am a firm adherent to the Constitution, you fool.

How will you bring people back to Christ and ensure the survival of Christianity without manipulation and control? You can't. Your religion is dying and will continue to do so until people like you only exist in history.

Strange question, as I have never mentioned what my religion is.


I may be a Druid...I like trees, and I look good in blue.....
 
many of our laws are predicated on what if which is a form of thought policing- and sometimes the law breaker gets slapped by the law enFORCER and way too often gets shot for his trouble
 
Strange question, as I have never mentioned what my religion is.


I may be a Druid...I like trees, and I look good in blue.....

Your world view is dying and your only hope to mitigate that trend is through manipulation and control. You're not being oppressed. People just aren't buying the bullshit you people are selling anymore. Your struggles are in vain. Your world view and way of life will disappear all on its own simply because humanity has outgrown it.
 
1. One can only be shocked at what has happened to America if one knows what the real America is about....and government school doesn't appear to provide that knowledge.
Real Americanism focuses on freedom of speech and of thought, not the punishing of any that doesn't parrot the current orthodoxy.


2. Reading Jung Chang's 'Wild Swans,' I found this:

"Dr. Xia’s youngest son was working as a schoolteacher in Yixian. As in every school in Manchukuo, there was a big portrait of Pu Yi in the office of the Japanese headmaster, which everyone had to salute when they entered the room.
One day Dr. Xia’s son forgot to bow to Pu Yi. The headmaster shouted at him to bow at once and slapped him so hard across the face he knocked him off balance. Dr. Xia’s son was enraged: “Do I have to bend double every day? Can I not stand up straight even for a moment? I have just done my obeisance in morning assembly….” The headmaster slapped him again and barked: “This is your emperor! You Manchurians need to be taught elementary propriety!”

Dr. Xia’s son shouted back: “Big deal! It’s only a piece of paper!” At that moment two other teachers, both locals, came by and managed to stop him from saying anything more incriminating. He recovered his self-control and eventually forced himself to perform a bow of sorts to the portrait. That evening a friend came to his house and told him that word was out that he had been branded a “thought criminal”—an offense which was punishable by imprisonment, and possibly death. He ran away, and his family never heard of him again. Probably he was caught and died in prison, or else in a labor camp. Dr. Xia never recovered from the blow, which turned him into a determined foe of Manchukuo and of Pu Yi."



3. And was struck by the similarity to this:

"A Virginia teacher was fired for refusing to use a trans student’s pronouns.
... the instructor, Peter Vlaming, did not comply, he said in a lawsuit. Citing his religious beliefs, he promised to use only the student’s name and avoid pronouns entirely. Administrators, he said, eventually gave the teacher an ultimatum: use the student’s correct pronouns or face disciplinary action."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d-not-using-transgender-pronouns-sues-school/



Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Woo, woo, woo
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
Jolting Joe has left and gone away
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey


Fantastic post. What the average, "normal" and dare I say "moderate" democrat or non-Trump supporter is missing is that in America today, coast to coast, we Americans are under obligation OR ELSE. We Americans are under obligation not to wear Donald Trump or Republican Party logos, candidate names or symbols; not to proclaim publicly our belief in Jesus Christ or membership in His ancient service, not to openly speak the truth about homosexuality as a civilizational/species destroying rot, not to speak truth about biological sex, true sources of inner city crime, the threat from open borders and/or about a host of other obvious facts and truth. In essence, we Americans are not allowed to openly oppose verbally the new woke religion of the radical left. If we dare to do so, at work, on social media, or wherever—even in our places of worship—there's a chance we could be ruined for life or even attacked, maimed or murdered. For now this communist lockstep is only de facto enforced by the mindless mobs of the brainwashed. If the left wins all or even most come 2020, de facto will become government enforced.
 
1. One can only be shocked at what has happened to America if one knows what the real America is about....and government school doesn't appear to provide that knowledge.
Real Americanism focuses on freedom of speech and of thought, not the punishing of any that doesn't parrot the current orthodoxy.


2. Reading Jung Chang's 'Wild Swans,' I found this:

"Dr. Xia’s youngest son was working as a schoolteacher in Yixian. As in every school in Manchukuo, there was a big portrait of Pu Yi in the office of the Japanese headmaster, which everyone had to salute when they entered the room.
One day Dr. Xia’s son forgot to bow to Pu Yi. The headmaster shouted at him to bow at once and slapped him so hard across the face he knocked him off balance. Dr. Xia’s son was enraged: “Do I have to bend double every day? Can I not stand up straight even for a moment? I have just done my obeisance in morning assembly….” The headmaster slapped him again and barked: “This is your emperor! You Manchurians need to be taught elementary propriety!”

Dr. Xia’s son shouted back: “Big deal! It’s only a piece of paper!” At that moment two other teachers, both locals, came by and managed to stop him from saying anything more incriminating. He recovered his self-control and eventually forced himself to perform a bow of sorts to the portrait. That evening a friend came to his house and told him that word was out that he had been branded a “thought criminal”—an offense which was punishable by imprisonment, and possibly death. He ran away, and his family never heard of him again. Probably he was caught and died in prison, or else in a labor camp. Dr. Xia never recovered from the blow, which turned him into a determined foe of Manchukuo and of Pu Yi."



3. And was struck by the similarity to this:

"A Virginia teacher was fired for refusing to use a trans student’s pronouns.
... the instructor, Peter Vlaming, did not comply, he said in a lawsuit. Citing his religious beliefs, he promised to use only the student’s name and avoid pronouns entirely. Administrators, he said, eventually gave the teacher an ultimatum: use the student’s correct pronouns or face disciplinary action."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d-not-using-transgender-pronouns-sues-school/



Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Woo, woo, woo
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
Jolting Joe has left and gone away
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey

What I chafe at is this idiotic notion of so called hate crime that's so popular today. Hate crime and thought crime are in fact exactly the very same fucking thing. Yet most of the drooling morons running around today don't seem to have intelligence enough to pick up on it. I suspect it's a symptom of what our great public education has wrought.
While I too was a potential victim of our public education system, I also took it upon myself to educate myself to a large extent by reading on my own. In addition to the encyclopedia I also read a lot of political stuff by Orwell, Rand, Bradbury, Huxley etc. And of course a lot on electronics and technology. I wonder where I found the time to get up to so much mischief.
 
The question dealt with whether or not I would punish those with whom I disagreed.

Of course not, you dunce.

"Why?"


Because I believe in freedom and liberty...but I might verbally thrash 'em....because I'm really good at that.

You're confused again sweetheart. I was asking why you wouldn't support a Christian theocracy.
No you didn't. You claimed she wants the United States turned into a Christian theocracy despite her having stated clearly that "Real Americanism focuses on freedom of speech and of thought, not the punishing of any that doesn't parrot the current orthodoxy."
 
1. One can only be shocked at what has happened to America if one knows what the real America is about....and government school doesn't appear to provide that knowledge.
Real Americanism focuses on freedom of speech and of thought, not the punishing of any that doesn't parrot the current orthodoxy.


2. Reading Jung Chang's 'Wild Swans,' I found this:

"Dr. Xia’s youngest son was working as a schoolteacher in Yixian. As in every school in Manchukuo, there was a big portrait of Pu Yi in the office of the Japanese headmaster, which everyone had to salute when they entered the room.
One day Dr. Xia’s son forgot to bow to Pu Yi. The headmaster shouted at him to bow at once and slapped him so hard across the face he knocked him off balance. Dr. Xia’s son was enraged: “Do I have to bend double every day? Can I not stand up straight even for a moment? I have just done my obeisance in morning assembly….” The headmaster slapped him again and barked: “This is your emperor! You Manchurians need to be taught elementary propriety!”

Dr. Xia’s son shouted back: “Big deal! It’s only a piece of paper!” At that moment two other teachers, both locals, came by and managed to stop him from saying anything more incriminating. He recovered his self-control and eventually forced himself to perform a bow of sorts to the portrait. That evening a friend came to his house and told him that word was out that he had been branded a “thought criminal”—an offense which was punishable by imprisonment, and possibly death. He ran away, and his family never heard of him again. Probably he was caught and died in prison, or else in a labor camp. Dr. Xia never recovered from the blow, which turned him into a determined foe of Manchukuo and of Pu Yi."



3. And was struck by the similarity to this:

"A Virginia teacher was fired for refusing to use a trans student’s pronouns.
... the instructor, Peter Vlaming, did not comply, he said in a lawsuit. Citing his religious beliefs, he promised to use only the student’s name and avoid pronouns entirely. Administrators, he said, eventually gave the teacher an ultimatum: use the student’s correct pronouns or face disciplinary action."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d-not-using-transgender-pronouns-sues-school/



Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Woo, woo, woo
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
Jolting Joe has left and gone away
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey



"Real Americanism focuses on freedom of speech and of thought, not the punishing of any that doesn't parrot the current orthodoxy."

says the thought nazi who daily espouses systematic elimination of anyone who doesn't parrot her conservative correctness.

and she is too stupid to see the irony.....


ya can't say "FREE SPEECH FOR EVERYONE"

and then "but we must SILENCE those who oppose us...."

well...I guess conservatives can.....
 
"I don't belong to a side. I choose to think for myself instead."


Can you provide several of the books that have informed your geopolitical views?

You're admitting the books you read form your opinions- that contradicts thinking for yourself. What's wrong with observation?
 
Strange question, as I have never mentioned what my religion is.


I may be a Druid...I like trees, and I look good in blue.....

Your world view is dying and your only hope to mitigate that trend is through manipulation and control. You're not being oppressed. People just aren't buying the bullshit you people are selling anymore. Your struggles are in vain. Your world view and way of life will disappear all on its own simply because humanity has outgrown it.



Sounds more like a hope than a prediction.

The barnyard vulgarity gives your frustration away.....


Now....which of the Ten Commandments has humanity outgrown, Vladimir?
 
1. One can only be shocked at what has happened to America if one knows what the real America is about....and government school doesn't appear to provide that knowledge.
Real Americanism focuses on freedom of speech and of thought, not the punishing of any that doesn't parrot the current orthodoxy.


2. Reading Jung Chang's 'Wild Swans,' I found this:

"Dr. Xia’s youngest son was working as a schoolteacher in Yixian. As in every school in Manchukuo, there was a big portrait of Pu Yi in the office of the Japanese headmaster, which everyone had to salute when they entered the room.
One day Dr. Xia’s son forgot to bow to Pu Yi. The headmaster shouted at him to bow at once and slapped him so hard across the face he knocked him off balance. Dr. Xia’s son was enraged: “Do I have to bend double every day? Can I not stand up straight even for a moment? I have just done my obeisance in morning assembly….” The headmaster slapped him again and barked: “This is your emperor! You Manchurians need to be taught elementary propriety!”

Dr. Xia’s son shouted back: “Big deal! It’s only a piece of paper!” At that moment two other teachers, both locals, came by and managed to stop him from saying anything more incriminating. He recovered his self-control and eventually forced himself to perform a bow of sorts to the portrait. That evening a friend came to his house and told him that word was out that he had been branded a “thought criminal”—an offense which was punishable by imprisonment, and possibly death. He ran away, and his family never heard of him again. Probably he was caught and died in prison, or else in a labor camp. Dr. Xia never recovered from the blow, which turned him into a determined foe of Manchukuo and of Pu Yi."



3. And was struck by the similarity to this:

"A Virginia teacher was fired for refusing to use a trans student’s pronouns.
... the instructor, Peter Vlaming, did not comply, he said in a lawsuit. Citing his religious beliefs, he promised to use only the student’s name and avoid pronouns entirely. Administrators, he said, eventually gave the teacher an ultimatum: use the student’s correct pronouns or face disciplinary action."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...d-not-using-transgender-pronouns-sues-school/



Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Woo, woo, woo
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
Jolting Joe has left and gone away
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey


Fantastic post. What the average, "normal" and dare I say "moderate" democrat or non-Trump supporter is missing is that in America today, coast to coast, we Americans are under obligation OR ELSE. We Americans are under obligation not to wear Donald Trump or Republican Party logos, candidate names or symbols; not to proclaim publicly our belief in Jesus Christ or membership in His ancient service, not to openly speak the truth about homosexuality as a civilizational/species destroying rot, not to speak truth about biological sex, true sources of inner city crime, the threat from open borders and/or about a host of other obvious facts and truth. In essence, we Americans are not allowed to openly oppose verbally the new woke religion of the radical left. If we dare to do so, at work, on social media, or wherever—even in our places of worship—there's a chance we could be ruined for life or even attacked, maimed or murdered. For now this communist lockstep is only de facto enforced by the mindless mobs of the brainwashed. If the left wins all or even most come 2020, de facto will become government enforced.



Sorry I can't give two stars!


Yup....the totalitarians of the Democrat party have only two modes for governance: ban or mandate.

No place for liberty or freedom in their firmament.
 

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