The Obituary of Jesus Christ

[harmonica]

...you--and everybody--cannot even comprehend or even try to know or try to define/explain ''god''/bible/heaven/hell
...you are trying to explain/prove something you can't even begin to comprehend even if it were true

Hell is not so difficult to figure out as long as you are not in it.

...so god created everything from the beginning--there is no way at all humans can comprehend something like this......it's like trying to comprehend how far a light year is when all we know is the distance of traveling by car

The story of Genesis is a metaphor. The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

The light being spoken into existence is about the law coming into the world from an extraterrestrial source around 6000 years ago as a "light to the nations" in a world that was without form (lawless) and void, and darkness, (ignorance), covered the face of the deep, (the unknown.) for billions of years"

Whats so hard to comprehend about that?

sure sure--I went to a pre-seminary and was taught all this stuff
you think you can comprehend ''something'' that was here before the universe???!!!no way --don't even try to answer that ..there is no way you can comprehend that

Hello? You never heard anything like this before.

The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

To know what was going on before the light was spoken into existence and the distinction between heaven and earth was established just look at what was going on 7000, or 10,000 years ago,

It was a jungle out there..

Mystery solved.

please go into more detail of what you mean by 7000 to 10000- it was a jungle

 

[hobelim]

Hell is not so difficult to figure out as long as you are not in it.

...so god created everything from the beginning--there is no way at all humans can comprehend something like this......it's like trying to comprehend how far a light year is when all we know is the distance of traveling by car

The story of Genesis is a metaphor. The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

The light being spoken into existence is about the law coming into the world from an extraterrestrial source around 6000 years ago as a "light to the nations" in a world that was without form (lawless) and void, and darkness, (ignorance), covered the face of the deep, (the unknown.) for billions of years"

Whats so hard to comprehend about that?

sure sure--I went to a pre-seminary and was taught all this stuff
you think you can comprehend ''something'' that was here before the universe???!!!no way --don't even try to answer that ..there is no way you can comprehend that

Hello? You never heard anything like this before.

The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

To know what was going on before the light was spoken into existence and the distinction between heaven and earth was established just look at what was going on 7000, or 10,000 years ago,

It was a jungle out there..

Mystery solved.

please go into more detail of what you mean by 7000 to 10000- it was a jungle

Before the law came into the world as a light, there was no distinction between true and false, right and wrong, good and evil, life and death.

The world was a vast and confusing wilderness teeming with wild beasts and vile and loathsome creatures.

Just as it remains so for people who do not follow the instruction given in the law to diligently stand guard over the purity of their own mind and rise above the level of superstitious and irrational knuckle dragging barbarians..

 

[harmonica]

...so god created everything from the beginning--there is no way at all humans can comprehend something like this......it's like trying to comprehend how far a light year is when all we know is the distance of traveling by car

The story of Genesis is a metaphor. The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

The light being spoken into existence is about the law coming into the world from an extraterrestrial source around 6000 years ago as a "light to the nations" in a world that was without form (lawless) and void, and darkness, (ignorance), covered the face of the deep, (the unknown.) for billions of years"

Whats so hard to comprehend about that?

sure sure--I went to a pre-seminary and was taught all this stuff
you think you can comprehend ''something'' that was here before the universe???!!!no way --don't even try to answer that ..there is no way you can comprehend that

Hello? You never heard anything like this before.

The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

To know what was going on before the light was spoken into existence and the distinction between heaven and earth was established just look at what was going on 7000, or 10,000 years ago,

It was a jungle out there..

Mystery solved.

please go into more detail of what you mean by 7000 to 10000- it was a jungle

Before the law came into the world as a light, there was no distinction between true and false, right and wrong, good and evil, life and death.

The world was a vast and confusing wilderness teeming with wild beasts and vile and loathsome creatures.

Just as it remains so for people who do not follow the instruction given in the law to diligently stand guard over the purity of their own mind and rise above the level of superstitious and irrational knuckle dragging barbarians..

so you are saying there was lawlessness 7000 years ago?

 

[harmonica]

...so god created everything from the beginning--there is no way at all humans can comprehend something like this......it's like trying to comprehend how far a light year is when all we know is the distance of traveling by car

The story of Genesis is a metaphor. The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

The light being spoken into existence is about the law coming into the world from an extraterrestrial source around 6000 years ago as a "light to the nations" in a world that was without form (lawless) and void, and darkness, (ignorance), covered the face of the deep, (the unknown.) for billions of years"

Whats so hard to comprehend about that?

sure sure--I went to a pre-seminary and was taught all this stuff
you think you can comprehend ''something'' that was here before the universe???!!!no way --don't even try to answer that ..there is no way you can comprehend that

Hello? You never heard anything like this before.

The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

To know what was going on before the light was spoken into existence and the distinction between heaven and earth was established just look at what was going on 7000, or 10,000 years ago,

It was a jungle out there..

Mystery solved.

please go into more detail of what you mean by 7000 to 10000- it was a jungle

Before the law came into the world as a light, there was no distinction between true and false, right and wrong, good and evil, life and death.

The world was a vast and confusing wilderness teeming with wild beasts and vile and loathsome creatures.

Just as it remains so for people who do not follow the instruction given in the law to diligently stand guard over the purity of their own mind and rise above the level of superstitious and irrational knuckle dragging barbarians..

are you saying things were after christ?

 

[hobelim]

The story of Genesis is a metaphor. The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

The light being spoken into existence is about the law coming into the world from an extraterrestrial source around 6000 years ago as a "light to the nations" in a world that was without form (lawless) and void, and darkness, (ignorance), covered the face of the deep, (the unknown.) for billions of years"

Whats so hard to comprehend about that?

sure sure--I went to a pre-seminary and was taught all this stuff
you think you can comprehend ''something'' that was here before the universe???!!!no way --don't even try to answer that ..there is no way you can comprehend that

Hello? You never heard anything like this before.

The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

To know what was going on before the light was spoken into existence and the distinction between heaven and earth was established just look at what was going on 7000, or 10,000 years ago,

It was a jungle out there..

Mystery solved.

please go into more detail of what you mean by 7000 to 10000- it was a jungle

Before the law came into the world as a light, there was no distinction between true and false, right and wrong, good and evil, life and death.

The world was a vast and confusing wilderness teeming with wild beasts and vile and loathsome creatures.

Just as it remains so for people who do not follow the instruction given in the law to diligently stand guard over the purity of their own mind and rise above the level of superstitious and irrational knuckle dragging barbarians..

so you are saying there was lawlessness 7000 years ago?

There were rules, man made laws, but I am saying that before Mosaic law came into the world as "a light to the nations" there was no clear instruction from a higher sphere of intelligences not of this world about how to live a holy life that would lead to permanent existence, no way to differentiate true from false, good from evil, clean from unclean.. etc.,


The world was a ball of confusion just as it still is for those who have never mastered the light.

 

[harmonica]

sure sure--I went to a pre-seminary and was taught all this stuff
you think you can comprehend ''something'' that was here before the universe???!!!no way --don't even try to answer that ..there is no way you can comprehend that

Hello? You never heard anything like this before.

The creation of heaven and earth, a world above and the world below, is not about the creation of the universe, the solar system, or the planet.

To know what was going on before the light was spoken into existence and the distinction between heaven and earth was established just look at what was going on 7000, or 10,000 years ago,

It was a jungle out there..

Mystery solved.

please go into more detail of what you mean by 7000 to 10000- it was a jungle

Before the law came into the world as a light, there was no distinction between true and false, right and wrong, good and evil, life and death.

The world was a vast and confusing wilderness teeming with wild beasts and vile and loathsome creatures.

Just as it remains so for people who do not follow the instruction given in the law to diligently stand guard over the purity of their own mind and rise above the level of superstitious and irrational knuckle dragging barbarians..

so you are saying there was lawlessness 7000 years ago?

There were rules, man made laws, but I am saying that before Mosaic law came into the world as "a light to the nations" there was no clear instruction from a higher sphere of intelligences not of this world about how to live a holy life that would lead to permanent existence, no way to differentiate true from false, good from evil, clean from unclean.. etc.,


etcThe world was a ball of confusion just as it still is for those who have never mastered the light.

the world hasn't changed
...there have been and always will be wars--the greatest destruction/death/rape/robbery occurred after jesus..
....we still have:
parents murdering their families
murders/rape/robberies
...genocide--there was genocide before and after the Holocaust--in Rwanda they used medieval weapons...more people participated per capita...more killed in a shorter time than the Holocaust
..mass shootings
etc
the world has not gotten better because of christ but because of advances in communication/farming/etc
examples:
Africa
Somalia where they stole food from children/etc...people carried guns everywhere
Rwanda Geneocide
Boko Haram
etc--these places are not advanced

after jesus came, the christians tortured people during the inquisition
the christians sacked/pillaged a christian city
the christians rape/molest children
etc
the world hasn't gotten better because of christ

 

[protectionist]

Which is why the Jesus myth is just that: myth.

Dummy. Biker sailor's post was refuted. He posted wrong info. You look ridiculous.

 

[protectionist]

...you--and everybody--cannot even comprehend or even try to know or try to define/explain ''god''/bible/heaven/hell
...you are trying to explain/prove something you can't even begin to comprehend even if it were true

There must be something more than just life on this earth. The planets, the stars, etc. What caused all this to exist ? Doesn't make sense to think all this came from nothing. And the something that it came from, ought to have a name, you think ? How about this ? >> "God"

 

[protectionist]

Jesus never existed.

"YOU" don't exist.

 

[harmonica]

...you--and everybody--cannot even comprehend or even try to know or try to define/explain ''god''/bible/heaven/hell
...you are trying to explain/prove something you can't even begin to comprehend even if it were true

There must be something more than just life on this earth. The planets, the stars, etc. What caused all this to exist ? Doesn't make sense to think all this came from nothing. And the something that it came from, ought to have a name, you think ? How about this ? >> "God"

ok --but that doesn't mean there is a heaven and hell
and it doesn't mean there is a ''god'' that is in control/directing..or a ''god'' as some religions believe
etc

 

[hobelim]

...you--and everybody--cannot even comprehend or even try to know or try to define/explain ''god''/bible/heaven/hell
...you are trying to explain/prove something you can't even begin to comprehend even if it were true

There must be something more than just life on this earth. The planets, the stars, etc. What caused all this to exist ? Doesn't make sense to think all this came from nothing. And the something that it came from, ought to have a name, you think ? How about this ? >> "God"

ok --but that doesn't mean there is a heaven and hell
and it doesn't mean there is a ''god'' that is in control/directing..or a ''god'' as some religions believe
etc

Like I said, The world was a ball of confusion then just as it still is now for those who have never mastered the light, clear instructions about how to rise above the madness of the earth that leads to good mental health and a more perfect experience of life, high above the level of lower beasts, codified and given to our ancestors from a higher realm of superior intelligences, exactly as they reported..

 

[protectionist]

the world hasn't gotten better because of christ

FALSE! Billions of people have been helped, diseased cured, houses built, lives saved, by the charities of Christian churches and organizations all over the world, for centuries.

At the top of charitable, humanitarian assistance are YMCA, YWCA, Catholic Charities, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, Easter Seals, Feed the Children, Catholic Relief Services, Salvation Army, Cross International, Habitat for Humanity, Compassion International, St. Vincent DePaul, Lutheran Services in America, World Vision, MAP International, Samaritan's Purse, Operation Blessing, Catholic Medical Mission, Young Life, Matthew 25: Ministries, Child Fund International, Christian Blind Mission, New York-Presbyterian Hospital, etc etc

These listed are just those Christian charities list in Forbes' top 100 with largest accounts. There are thousands more. These are Christians doing Christ's work. Carrying on his legacy.

 

[protectionist]

ok --but that doesn't mean there is a heaven and hell
and it doesn't mean there is a ''god'' that is in control/directing..or a ''god'' as some religions believe
etc

I don't believe that God DOES control things on earth (the devil's world). Only in God's world (as you say "heaven"), do I imagine that happen. Here everything is random, and based in evil.

But at least, thanks to Jesus Christ, we have hope to rise above this earthy mess, and how we conduct ourselves may have a lot to do with that. I sure wouldn't want to bet against it. May not be a second chance, and Infinity is a long time.

 

[JoeB131]

Jesus never existed.

"YOU" don't exist.

Wow... that was "childish".

 

[The Irish Ram]

I guess this year Jesus is a time traveler.

Passover is the holiday that Christ showed up in Jerusalem for when they caught Him.

Good Friday is the day that Christ was said to be crucified.

Easter Sunday is the day that Christ rose from the grave.

This year? It's all outta whack. Today is Good Friday, the day He was crucified, tomorrow is Passover, the holiday he went to Jerusalem to observe (wonder if He's gonna show up on the cross), and Sunday is the day that He was resurrected.

So this year, we kill Jesus on Friday, capture Him on Saturday, and He rises again on Sunday.

Hate to tell you Christians, but a lot of the Easter story is based in paganism, and on the wrong calendar, which is why this year Jesus has to be a time traveler.

Either that or you are ignorant concerning the 2nd Sabbath that week.....

 

[The Irish Ram]

he saved the world? how?....the greatest destruction/rape/murder/robbery/etc came 2000 years after him

You are so myopic. First He saved our eternal souls. He will be returning to prevent man from destroying all life on this earth. What else do you require?

 

[Taz]

 

[Taz]

 

[harmonica]

he saved the world? how?....the greatest destruction/rape/murder/robbery/etc came 2000 years after him

You are so myopic. First He saved our eternal souls. He will be returning to prevent man from destroying all life on this earth. What else do you require?

you are so gullible
saved our souls?? what is a soul??!!! there is no such thing --again--no such thing
please prove there is a soul
you keep mentioning things you can't prove

 

[harmonica]

ok --but that doesn't mean there is a heaven and hell
and it doesn't mean there is a ''god'' that is in control/directing..or a ''god'' as some religions believe
etc

I don't believe that God DOES control things on earth (the devil's world). Only in God's world (as you say "heaven"), do I imagine that happen. Here everything is random, and based in evil.

But at least, thanks to Jesus Christ, we have hope to rise above this earthy mess, and how we conduct ourselves may have a lot to do with that. I sure wouldn't want to bet against it. May not be a second chance, and Infinity is a long time.

there is no proof of heaven, hell, god, soul, etc
so what's going to happen if I don't believe?? the BIG Punishment !!!!!!