The nation is split like never before

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    I think white supremacists belong in holes. Most whites are not like you.
     
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    Anyone as defensive and insulted as Correll by being called a white supremacist is definitely a white supremacist.
     
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    Republicans often disagree but can come together to support the interests of all Americans. Defense of the nation is important. I don't know of any freedoms, or liberties that are being taken away by Republicans. As for voices, the MSM speaks long and loud for Democrats. They bury the negative about Dems and harp about the First Lady's footwear. Liberals are the ones who want to silence the voices of those they disagree with and Antifa and BLM are (strong) arms of the Democrat party.

    Democrats promote breaking down society into as many little "us vs. them" groups as possible to keep everyone at each other's throats. They pretend to be protecting segments of society, but what they're really doing is creating government dependence. Democrats don't care about anyone....it's all about the power.

    Those who have "social issues" are free to find a practical way of addressing it. The black community is in need of practical solutions. Rich celebrities should be able to provide more than "taking a knee" in petty protest. It accomplishes nothing; in fact, it's having the opposite effect since many are aware the entire protest is based on a lie.....the "hands up, don't shoot." fabrication. Cops who have committed murder have be found guilty, those who haven't have been acquitted. Move on. The "resistance" to President Trump..... not a social issue. Hillary lost! Quit crying and move on.

    It's not asking too much to agree on honoring the symbols of this nation. It's a small but important gesture and elitists should get off their knees and stop lying and whining because significant numbers of people are never going to buy into their divisive crap.
     
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    The problem here is that Republicans might come together to support something, but might also appear wrong to others.

    Defense of the nation is important. However the US spends more time defending its INTERESTS rather than the nation. Iraq wasn't about defending the nation, Saddam posed no threat to Canada, Mexico, Guatemala or any other country in the Americas, except the USA.

    You don't know of any freedoms or liberties taken away by the Republicans?

    9 Liberties Lost Since 9/11
    What We've Lost Since 9/11 | HuffPost
    Nine Liberties Lost Since 9/11
    Post-Constitutional America: What We’ve Lost Since 9/11
    Five Ways Americans Lost Freedom After 9/11 |
    The Rutherford Institute :: An Unbearable and Choking Hell: The Loss of Our Freedoms in the Wake of 9/11
    Examples of freedoms lost since 9/11

    You know there are plenty of things. Like on the Mexican border there is a 150 mile zone where you can have the police turning up and demanding to see your passport or ID to prove you're an American, in America.

    The spying has gone crazy.

    One of the biggest loses of freedom was when the Supreme Court ruled that rich people could spend as much money on elections as they like.

    Yes, the media speaks for the two main parties. I'm not saying Democrats are great here. I'm not saying Democrats are protecting your freedom at all. I'm merely saying that the right is willing to take away people's freedoms.
     
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    I never said the MSM speaks for both parties....they are firmly on the side of the Democrats.

    Initial Republican reaction to 9/11 has lead to a loss of privacy but it doesn't explain why the Obama Administration greatly expanded spying on Americans and after eight years in power did nothing to restore freedoms supposedly taken away by Republicans.

    I read the "Choking Hell" article and it's incredibly overblown. I haven't lost any significant freedoms and neither have the majority of Americans.

    America and American interests are one in the same and should be defended.

    I don't think rich people's money determine election outcomes, and contributions are still regulated.
     
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    Wow.


    YOu literally just claimed that denying being a racist, is proof of racism.


    YOu are a fucking asshole.
     
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    Fox News is on the side of the Republicans, and they have the largest share of the TV News market. The rest are liberal.

    You might not notice your lack of freedom now, but it comes little by little, taking you unawares, as you clear are.

    American interests should be defended. But what happens when they aren't American interests, they're the rich people's interests. Iraq was about OPEC and oil. Many people have made a lot of money out of it, and many poorer people have lost their lives, including 4,000 US soldiers, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. But everyone's happy right? Because the rich are getting their money, the got rid of the OPEC stranglehold and they're happy, so they tell you that you're happy. So you're happy.

    You don't think rich people's money determines election outcomes huh? I do.

    Why?

    The first reason is that the US buys Coca-Cola, Pepsi, McDonalds etc en masse.

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    They spend so much on Advertising. More than $3 billion a year.
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    The US has the largest advertising spending per capita in the world.

    The US people can be bought with advertising and they ARE bought every day with advertising.

    The next point is the Koch Brothers. I use them as an example, this isn't to say there aren't others doing the same thing, just these guys are the most fervent.

    In the 1980s they ran against Reagan in the Libertarian Party. They lost. And they decided to change people's minds. The Right in the US has become more and more right wing. More towards what the Koch Brothers want. They advertise. They spend money everywhere, pushing people's opinions towards what they want. And it's clearly worked. The right is more right than it was in Reagan's time.

    How does this happen? It clearly doesn't just happen, someone or some people are pushing this.

    Advertising during an election is important, but the Koch Brothers have figured out that if you do it over a longer period of time, you don't need to promote your own candidates much, they'll be electable because they meet the values the people have been told to meet.
     
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    The Republicans cannot come together to vote in their key legislation even though the have the house, senate and presidency. What world are you living in?
     
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    Trump energized whites who have lost their white privilege as minority have increase rights. They were not the only Trump voters but they were the segment that put him over the top and are his most loyal supporters.
    Hillary had a difficult time energizing her own family.
     
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    Yet another post where a snowflake accuses Trump supporters of being racists.

    You're a vile piece of shit.
     
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