The left trying to shut down free speech

[miketx]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

They can and do all the time, where they are in charge. Where liberals rule, free speech is absent.

How much free speech is there on private conservative campus'?

If you can find me a conservative campus, where its students invited a speaker but was rejected by the university, I will likely condemn that too. Got any examples?

I support free speech. I think the open exchange of ideas is healthy for democracy. I disagree that unpopular or offensive speech should be banned, although there are exceptions.

Chelsea Manning and Reverend James Martin. Both were prevented from speaking at college campuses because of "conservative" outcry.

Prove it.

 

[K9Buck]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

They can and do all the time, where they are in charge. Where liberals rule, free speech is absent.

How much free speech is there on private conservative campus'?

If you can find me a conservative campus, where its students invited a speaker but was rejected by the university, I will likely condemn that too. Got any examples?

I support free speech. I think the open exchange of ideas is healthy for democracy. I disagree that unpopular or offensive speech should be banned, although there are exceptions.

Chelsea Manning and Reverend James Martin. Both were prevented from speaking at college campuses because of "conservative" outcry.

Link?

 

[Seawytch]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

They can and do all the time, where they are in charge. Where liberals rule, free speech is absent.

How much free speech is there on private conservative campus'?

If you can find me a conservative campus, where its students invited a speaker but was rejected by the university, I will likely condemn that too. Got any examples?

I support free speech. I think the open exchange of ideas is healthy for democracy. I disagree that unpopular or offensive speech should be banned, although there are exceptions.

Chelsea Manning and Reverend James Martin. Both were prevented from speaking at college campuses because of "conservative" outcry.

Link?

Harvard rescinds invitation to Chelsea Manning following criticism

Fr. James Martin uninvited from talk at CUA seminary

Do you think Liberty University would even allow anyone to ask to have, say, Cecile Richards speak?

 

[SSGT Bags]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

So then, the NFL can tell those idiots to respect the flag or you are off the team, right?
I agree.

 

[MrShangles]

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...lacklist_the_left_shuts_down_free_speech.html

on college campuses. Can TV, radio, the internet be far behind?

Well since Facebook, Twitter and YouTube already pulled the plug on Alex Jones and then the FCC right behind them...……..it's already happened/happening.

Doesn't matter what you think about Jones, that was just wrong. Free Speech is now dead

"Free speech is now dead."

What a drama queen.

The entities you list are corporations that create their own rules, just like this stupid board does.

They are not government bureaus or agencies obligated to the 1st Amendment.

Getting the difference yet, dimwit?

But if it was happening liberals, I for some reason don’t think you would have the same feelings would you?


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[Correll]

Conservatives might want to rethink their whole free market idealism. I don't think they could handle it.

Are we talking about free markets, or virtual public spaces?

If we are talking about the different private platforms that are available in the virtual public space then I think we are talking about the market.

Yet, Free Speech is being impinged on.

In a free market, those are the breaks. That is the point I am making.

In a free society, if those are the breaks, the people fucked have political recourse.


That is the point I am making.

 

[Darkwind]

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...lacklist_the_left_shuts_down_free_speech.html

on college campuses. Can TV, radio, the internet be far behind?

False equivalency of monumental proportions.
McCarthy was a senator who held congressional hearings to route out communists and ruin their careers, even though being a communist wasn't illegal.
Just his accusation was enough to get someone fired.

Rodrik is a college professor expressing an opinion.

You don't see a difference?

Now apply that to the "Hunt for Red Collusion". Do you see the similarities?

 

[Tehon]

Conservatives might want to rethink their whole free market idealism. I don't think they could handle it.

Are we talking about free markets, or virtual public spaces?

If we are talking about the different private platforms that are available in the virtual public space then I think we are talking about the market.

Yet, Free Speech is being impinged on.

In a free market, those are the breaks. That is the point I am making.

In a free society, if those are the breaks, the people fucked have political recourse.


That is the point I am making.

Perfect, then you understand the limitations of the market, as do I.

Don't worry, you will get used to being called a socialist.

 

[Correll]

Are we talking about free markets, or virtual public spaces?

free market or free speech, it's all the same to the left...…...up for sale

You don't think there is a market for ideas?

This is why you might want to rethink the idea of the free market.

Far right conservatives are outnumbered and no amount of gerrymandering could solve this problem.

So, why are the lefties so terrified of them/us being allowed to speak?

I don't think they are scared. I think they are tired of being used to spread hate, which is pretty much what you all sell.

Bullshit. On all levels.

They censor us, because they know that they cannot win any debates. Because their policies are designed to serve their Ideology, not the American people.

 

[Correll]

This thread is about free speech......not free market as you've brought up

Have you substantiated a case for the violation of free speech? I thought this was about college, radio, tv and internet? In other words, the market.

well, however you want to market the speech.....but it's only free when there is a 'market' in which to speak

The market exists, you just need a platform in it. Too bad for you that you are behind the eight ball because all those leftist entities will attempt to squash any upcoming competition. And since free market idealism permits monopolization, good luck catching up.

Free market ideology has been taking a beating, or didn't you notice.


If the private services are abusing their monopoly to the harm of the consumers, and society, then it is time to regulate them.

Well there you go. Now we can stop pretending that the free market is synonymous with freedom.

I don't know or care what you are referring to.

My point about the censorship of the Left stands.

 

[kaz]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

They can and do all the time, where they are in charge. Where liberals rule, free speech is absent.

When did the government ever deny you your free speech?

Government schools are shutting down free speech both at the college level and in grade school. Leftist speech only is allowed

 

[kaz]

Nature has selected liberals for extinction so in the long run everything will be right with the world.

Without liberals there would be no end to Jim Crowe, no vote for women.

You can do your best but we will remain to pester you when your hate over comes human decency.

True, but you're a leftist, not a liberal. You have nothing in common with us

 

[kaz]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

They can and do all the time, where they are in charge. Where liberals rule, free speech is absent.

How much free speech is there on private conservative campus'?

A lot more than on leftist government public campuses

 

[OldLady]

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...lacklist_the_left_shuts_down_free_speech.html

on college campuses. Can TV, radio, the internet be far behind?

OMG! One Harvard professor! The world is truly ending.

 

[kaz]

Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction. The term "freedom of expression" is sometimes used synonymously but includes any act of seeking, receiving, and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.

Freedom of speech - Wikipedia

That you want liberals to step up and support opposition to free speech? You sure?

They already do that, it is the basis for this thread.

Does this mean you are in favor of regulating the market to prevent censorship within it?

There's no possible way to get that out of what he said

 

[boedicca]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

B'loney. You display a common misunderstanding of the 1st A. Just because the Bill of Rights limits government power to infringe on an individual's freedom of speech, that doesn't mean that only the government can infringe said freedom.

Private sector actors who dox, deplatform, intimidate etc. are doing a great deal of damage to Free Speech.

 

[Correll]

Are we talking about free markets, or virtual public spaces?

If we are talking about the different private platforms that are available in the virtual public space then I think we are talking about the market.

Yet, Free Speech is being impinged on.

In a free market, those are the breaks. That is the point I am making.

In a free society, if those are the breaks, the people fucked have political recourse.


That is the point I am making.

Perfect, then you understand the limitations of the market, as do I.

Don't worry, you will get used to being called a socialist.

Supporting reasonable and called for regulation is not socialism.


I'll be happy to make that point to any confused libertarians, or socialists.

 

[kaz]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

B'loney. You display a common misunderstanding of the 1st A. Just because the Bill of Rights limits government power to infringe on an individual's freedom of speech, that doesn't mean that only the government can infringe said freedom.

Private sector actors who dox, deplatform, intimidate etc. are doing a great deal of damage to Free Speech.

Private institutions can only stop your speech on their platform, they can't stop you from stating your views like government can

 

[boedicca]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

B'loney. You display a common misunderstanding of the 1st A. Just because the Bill of Rights limits government power to infringe on an individual's freedom of speech, that doesn't mean that only the government can infringe said freedom.

Private sector actors who dox, deplatform, intimidate etc. are doing a great deal of damage to Free Speech.

Private institutions can only stop your speech on their platform, they can't stop you from stating your views like government can

Did I say they were the same thing?

This creepy Robespierrism by the Surveillance Media and the Progs isn't going to end well.

 

[Coyote]

Private institutions can't shut down your right to free speech. Only the government can.

B'loney. You display a common misunderstanding of the 1st A. Just because the Bill of Rights limits government power to infringe on an individual's freedom of speech, that doesn't mean that only the government can infringe said freedom.

Private sector actors who dox, deplatform, intimidate etc. are doing a great deal of damage to Free Speech.

So....that means anyone has a right to say anything anywhere? Because I would disagree. Private entities have the right to set standards within their establishments or among their employees. Where it gets sticky is when they attempt to enforce it outside of employment.