The Individual Mandate will be the Problem that Justifies Single Payer

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    The Individual Mandate will be the Problem that Justifies Single Payer

    Forcing People through Penalty of Law to have Health Insurance will Eventually Lead to Cries from the Oppressed Masses for the "Single Payer" that is Currently Unpassable.

    This is by Design... It is what being "Progressive" is ALL about. They will get their "Single Payer" and they will do it by Rescuing People from a Law that they themselves Created.

    And Fortunately for the DemocRATS, their Base, the only People who Support this, are too Ignorant to Realize that it will have been their Party who did this to them as they Offer "Single Payer" as the "Solution" to the "Problem".

    This Painfully Predictable Path would be Entertaining if it wasn't so Tragic and Sad.

    Stalin would be Proud.

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    I hope you're right. But I doubt it. With the insurance lobby controlling so many in Congress, I don't see us ever having single-payer.

    Shame.
     
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    With the govt having so many mandates on health insurance now, it works out to be a sweet deal for both sides and a terrible situation for "we the people"
     
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    indeed jeffrockit....

    we either need health insurance with less (little to no) government involvement or go all out single payer and destroy the private insurance companies. anything else fucks over the people.
     
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    the insurance companies will not go out of business even with single payer...many people will buy supplemental insurance to cover what the single payer plan won't cover...as people with medicare, like my parents, pay for private supplemental insurance, in addition to their medicare...and tricare.

    there will just be a different type of insurance, but they can still keep their companies...just a different insurance focus.
     
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    Yeah letting people make their own choices is bad or them.

    So we should have the government telling us exactly what kind of insurance to buy and then we should let the government be the one and only insurance provider because we all know the government is so good and wonderful and can manage our health better than we can.

    After that we can let the benevolent government be the only financial institution and we can be told how much we have to spend or save because the government knows better how we should handle our money than we do.

    Then we can let the government be the only auto maker in the country because we can't be trusted to drive the right kind of cars

    And finally we can let the government run all the supermarkets because we are too fucking stupid and eat things that are bad for us.

    Oh great and powerful government protect us from ourselves.
     
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    I've been reading a lot of commentary on the constitutionality of the individual mandate. It seems that the govt. has the power to TAX people and force them to join a government program, but they cannot force people to pay a TAX to a private company. That's why the public option was being pushed so hard. The mandate is a TAX and I believe it is referred to as such in the wording of the bill. Despite Obama's "pledge", 30 million people making under $250K will have their TAXES increased. (as well as the rest of us)

    So much for having a "constitutional scholar" in the WH.
     
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    As bad as you imagine it to be, it's a step along the path to single-payer. It's like crawling before you can run. It's not really what you want to do but it's a way to get there.
     
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    If the banks, the auto companies and the supermarkets failed to provide what we needed at reasonable prices, yes. We should establish government alternatives.
     
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    So you want to eat government cheese the rest of your life?

    Imagine walking into a super market and only being able to buy what the government has deemed as "good for you" foods. Then we would get to pay additional taxes so as to subsidize those people who can't afford "good for you" foods and our grocery bill would double or triple just as our insurance premiums will.


    But hey so called progressives would love that. After all they are smarter than all of us right?
     

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