The guy Nazareth was a total fraud, get over it already...

lol... Its called intelligent thought. You should try it. One hit and all your troubles will vanish, and you'll be hooked.

Careful though, The hard stuff is not for sissies .

If rational thinking is too scary for you, maybe you should stick with the grape juice they are handing out in church for children.....

Jesus literally poofed fish sandwiches out of thin air as a demonstration of divine supernatural power over reality when 5000 people gathered around him, a homeless person in the middle of the desert, because they really needed a snack.

So what if it contradicts reality. So what if it makes no rational sense. So what if it never literally happened. So what if there is something of great value hidden there. Fuck intelligent thought. You don't have to understand anything. You just have to believe!

Thats the ticket!

You, a tough guy, are going to stick with that story ? really? Isn't that a little light in the loafers for a tough guy?
It is kind of hard to reconcile your position with the >24,000 written manuscripts. Or do you believe there was a massive conspiracy to forge more than 24,000 documents?
What I have shown you I have drawn from the teachings of Jesus and the story in the written gospels without adding, subtracting, or changing a single word.
But reject every single supernatural act by Jesus and his claim of who he is.


Jesus claimed to be the expected Messiah, a Jewish man. What you call supernatural acts, miracles, were signs that Jesus was exactly who he said he was. Feeding the multitude was about Jesus teaching the multitude what he learned from God satisfying their messianic expectations.

They were not demonstrations of supernatural power over reality nor proof of divinity.
The Jewish Messiah will come at the end of days and he will be a man. Jesus is fully human and fully God. And when he returns he will fulfill the Jewish prophecy at that time. The first coming of Christ ended exactly as intended. He was sacrificed to reconcile justice with mercy and he established himself as the Word of God and fulfilled the original covenant.

ALL of the miracles he performed established his divinity. His claim established his divinity. The 24,000 written manuscripts recorded it. So either he was a madman and there was a massive conspiracy or he is exactly who he claimed to be.

I have some slightly negative news for you.
There are TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTED MIRACLES going on
in Israel every century-----mostly in Beersheba where it is very hot----and flat---
and surreal. Ever hear of the goat which could quote the Talmud chapter and verse?
 
They turned a few servings of bread and fish into many!


and you were there - how did the fish taste???


They need not depart; give ye them to eat

.... because the FRAUD was OBLIGATED to feed them....


Amazing how much trouble the "Son of God" had feeding them.... GEEZ excuse the pun....

According to The Bible, he made it happen effortlessly. Next!


FYI.

The miracle of the loaves is not about Jesus feeding people fish sandwiches out of thin air. Its about how Jesus taught such a large skeptical crowd of thousands what he learned from God with only 7 followers represented by 5 fish and two loaves. He fed everyone through those first 7 disciples ( feed them yourselves) until the crowd was satisfied, and ended up with twelve baskets full of uneaten pieces, the exact number of disciples Jesus ended up with.

A miracle!

the uneaten pieces represent aspects of what Jesus taught that the 12 disciples believed but the crowd could not swallow.

Not sure what kinda dope y'all smoke to arrive at these conclusions. I bet it's pretty potent, though.


lol... Its called intelligent thought. You should try it. One hit and all your troubles will vanish, and you'll be hooked.

Careful though, The hard stuff is not for sissies .

If rational thinking is too scary for you, maybe you should stick with the grape juice they are handing out in church for children.....

Jesus literally poofed fish sandwiches out of thin air as a demonstration of divine supernatural power over reality when 5000 people gathered around him, a homeless person in the middle of the desert, because they really needed a snack.

So what if it contradicts reality. So what if it makes no rational sense. So what if it never literally happened. So what if there is something of great value hidden there. Fuck intelligent thought. You don't have to understand anything. You just have to believe!

hobes---it's called CREATIVE THOUGHT
 
The New Testament clearly teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man.

The New Testament repeatedly ascribes to Jesus titles and activities that are elsewhere reserved for God alone.

The Old Testament consistently stresses that humans are to pray to and worship God alone. The practice of worshiping and praying to Jesus as Lord is found throughout the New Testament by monotheistic Jews and he not only allows it, but encourages it.
 
The New Testament clearly teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man.

The New Testament repeatedly ascribes to Jesus titles and activities that are elsewhere reserved for God alone.

The Old Testament consistently stresses that humans are to pray to and worship God alone. The practice of worshiping and praying to Jesus as Lord is found throughout the New Testament by monotheistic Jews and he not only allows it, but encourages it.

who are these monotheistic jews? Paul? ---
of all the players------
 
The New Testament clearly teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man.

The New Testament repeatedly ascribes to Jesus titles and activities that are elsewhere reserved for God alone.

The Old Testament consistently stresses that humans are to pray to and worship God alone. The practice of worshiping and praying to Jesus as Lord is found throughout the New Testament by monotheistic Jews and he not only allows it, but encourages it.

who are these monotheistic jews? Paul? ---
of all the players------
The practice of worshiping and praying to Jesus as Lord is found throughout the New Testament.

Jn 20:28-29
 
"""JOHN""" is not reliable stuff------no one knows who "JOHN" was -------and he was the "person" to whom the mushroom driven
BOOK OF REVULSIONS" is attributed.
"HIS" writing is in GREEK. Jesus did not speak
greek.. ---------for "JOHN" to decide what was on the mind of Jesus------YEAH RIGHT!!!!. Even
Saint Paul of the delusions is a better source
 
"""JOHN""" is not reliable stuff------no one knows who "JOHN" was -------and he was the "person" to whom the mushroom driven
BOOK OF REVULSIONS" is attributed.
"HIS" writing is in GREEK. Jesus did not speak
greek.. ---------for "JOHN" to decide what was on the mind of Jesus------YEAH RIGHT!!!!. Even
Saint Paul of the delusions is a better source
24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.
 
Christian MATH...

God created the universe. God put his only son in our solar system. What are the random odds of that???

LOL!!!

How Many Galaxies Are There?

"While estimates among different experts vary, an acceptable range is between 100 billion and 200 billion galaxies, said Mario Livio, an astrophysicist at the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, Maryland. "


So, it was 1 in 100 billion God would put his kid in the Milky Way...

How Many Stars Are in the Milky Way?

"which puts the estimate of the total stars in our galaxy at 100 billion."


So again, it was 1 in 100 billion God put his kid in our solar system....

100 billion is 100,000,000,000


Odds God put his one kid in our solar system.....


0.000000000000000000000001

and that's also the average IQ of a pro Israel "Christian" in America.....
 
John believed stars were the size of fig leaves... which is about the distortion needed to believe anything else in his acid trip book...
 
FYI.

The miracle of the loaves is not about Jesus feeding people fish sandwiches out of thin air. Its about how Jesus taught such a large skeptical crowd of thousands what he learned from God with only 7 followers represented by 5 fish and 2 loaves. He fed everyone through those first 7 disciples ( feed them yourselves) until the crowd was satisfied, and ended up with twelve baskets full of uneaten pieces, the exact number of disciples Jesus ended up with.

7 disciples became 12. The multiplication of the loaves, a miracle!

the baskets full of uneaten pieces represent aspects of what Jesus taught that the 12 disciples believed but the crowd could not swallow.


Clever were the authors of most of the Bible.

Amazing the Disciples would all end up bolting on Jesus after observing him do such "miracles..."

Why do you think the Disciples bolted instead of staying with Jesus when the "authorities" arrested him?
 
Jesus literally poofed fish sandwiches out of thin air as a demonstration of divine supernatural power over reality when 5000 people gathered around him, a homeless person in the middle of the desert, because they really needed a snack.

But Jesus Christ couldn't protect himself from his abusers with his divine supernatural powers.
 
He didn't demonstrate such "powers" to anyone except his Disciples... and they all bolted on him... proving they knew he was a fraud.
 
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Seriously motherfucker.

You're gonna attempt to denigrate the Son of God?

The guy who sacrificed himself for you, in case you didn't want to be an asshat?
You don't deserve to be breathing oxygen, seriously.





This from yet another SUB HUMAN who never thinks, never asks, but only PARROTS...

You didn't observe Jesus, idiot. You cannot answer/refute my claims. But you can spazz out in a completely "un-Christian" way and out yourself as a SUB in the process....

Jesus was not even a good person. He deliberately bilked people, promised future "healing" and then disappeared... and that is why so many in Judea showed up to vote for Barabbas.... because they HATED the FRAUD.
This from yet another SUB HUMAN who never thinks, never asks, but only PARROTS...

Every debate rule book in the world says you just lost the argument with that one.
 
According to The Bible


The Earth is the center of the universe and everything orbits Earth.... until Galileo pointed out the truth, and the lie in the Bible got deleted...

Stars are the size of fig leaves, and can "fall to Earth" like fig leaves...



Da BiBULL is BULLSHIT. Citing it proves you are a MORON.
Which verse says the earth is the center of the universe?
I'll check back later for your riveting answer.
 
Which verse says the earth is the center of the universe?


The Galileo 'twist' - creation.com


In the 17th century, Galileo (1564–1642), with his telescope, was able to carry out repeated and repeatable observations which refuted Aristotle and Ptolemy, and supported Copernicus. For example, he observed that the sun had spots which moved across its surface, showing that the sun was not ‘perfect’ and it itself rotated; he observed the phases of Venus, showing that Venus must orbit the sun; and he discovered four moons that revolve around Jupiter, not the Earth, showing that the Earth was not the centre of everything. In 1618, he observed three comets pass effortlessly through Ptolemy’s crystalline spheres (in which the planets and stars supposedly moved around the Earth), showing that these spheres must be imaginary.

The heliocentric (from Greek helios = sun) or Copernican system opposed the views of the astronomer-philosophers of the day, who earned their livelihood by teaching Aristotle and Ptolemy, and so were biased against change. They therefore either ignored, ridiculed, destroyed, or hostilely opposed Galileo’ ’s writings. Many Church leaders allowed themselves to be persuaded by the Aristotelians at the universities that the geocentric (earth-centred) system was taught in Scripture and that Galileo was contradicting the Bible. They therefore bitterly opposed Galileo to the extent of forcing him on pain of death to repudiate his findings.



To be a Pro Israel US based Christian is to hate truth, America, and everyone with an IQ over 5....
 
If you were patriotic you wouldn't be trying to subordinate religion, bro.



Truth is patriotic

Serving the country responsible for 911, JFK, the USS Liberty... is not.
George Washington
Farewell Address, Sept 17, 1796


“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports...In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens...”

The Will of the People: Readings in American Democracy (Chicago: Great Books Foundation, 2001), 38.
 
Christian MATH...

God created the universe. God put his only son in our solar system. What are the random odds of that???

LOL!!!

How Many Galaxies Are There?

"While estimates among different experts vary, an acceptable range is between 100 billion and 200 billion galaxies, said Mario Livio, an astrophysicist at the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, Maryland. "


So, it was 1 in 100 billion God would put his kid in the Milky Way...

How Many Stars Are in the Milky Way?

"which puts the estimate of the total stars in our galaxy at 100 billion."


So again, it was 1 in 100 billion God put his kid in our solar system....

100 billion is 100,000,000,000


Odds God put his one kid in our solar system.....


0.000000000000000000000001

and that's also the average IQ of a pro Israel "Christian" in America.....
Cool story, bro.

Did you know the laws of nature predestined beings that know and create would arise? And that those laws existed before space and time itself? Which means that before space and time existed that the potential for beings that know and create existed.

Also did you know that it is possible for matter and energy to have a beginning? In fact the atoms that make up who you are were present for the beginning of space and time and since that time have only changed form. And that this would be true for every person who has ever existed and will ever exist.
 
That awkward moment when LaDexter realizes he is about to be schooled in his own thread by a dumb Christian.
 

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