The Forgotten History of Britain's White Slaves in America

[cnm]

I find it hard to believe you have never heard of him. If true, you need to read him extensively. He is one of the greatest.

He's full of shit, from what I read of his article.

 

[cnm]

In Maine, the indentured servants wrote in their contracts that they could NOT be served Lobster more than 3 times a week

Which shows they were not slaves. The slavery contract is a bill of sale.

 

[cnm]

it didn't exist as a 'legal entity'?

The local constabulary had no clue people owned slaves?

Yeah. They weren't property.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Yeah... Walter Williams is a cracker. LMFAO!!!

Never heard of the man. I assumed you are the cracker.

/----/ Wisdom of the Month
Walter E. Williams
Biographical Sketch
Born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Dr. Walter E. Williams holds a B.A. in economics from California State University, Los Angeles, and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees in economics from UCLA. He also holds a Doctor of Humane Letters from Virginia Union University and Grove City College, Doctor of Laws from Washington and Jefferson College and Doctor Honoris Causa en Ciencias Sociales from Universidad Francisco Marroquin, in Guatemala, where he is also Professor Honorario.

Dr. Williams has served on the faculty of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, as John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics, since 1980; from 1995 to 2001, he served as department chairman. He has also served on the faculties of Los Angeles City College, California State University Los Angeles, and Temple University in Philadelphia, and Grove City College, Grove City, Pa.

Dr. Williams is the author of over 150 publications which have appeared in scholarly journals such as Economic Inquiry, American Economic Review, Georgia Law Review, Journal of Labor Economics, Social Science Quarterly, and Cornell Journal of Law and Public Policy and popular publications such as Newsweek, Ideas on Liberty, National Review, Reader's Digest, Cato Journal, and Policy Review. He has authored ten books: America: A Minority Viewpoint, The State Against Blacks, which was later made into the PBS documentary “Good Intentions,” All It Takes Is Guts, South Africa's War Against Capitalism, which was later revised for South African publication, Do the Right Thing: The People's Economist Speaks, More Liberty Means Less Government, Liberty vs. the Tyranny of Socialism, Up From The Projects: An Autobiography, Race and Economics: How Much Can Be Blamed On Discrimination? and American Contempt for Liberty.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I find it hard to believe you have never heard of him. If true, you need to read him extensively. He is one of the greatest.

He's full of shit, from what I read of his article.

I find it hard to believe you have never heard of him. If true, you need to read him extensively. He is one of the greatest.

He's full of shit, from what I read of his article.

/----/ Please post one example of his article that you think is BS --- if it's not too inconvenient.

 

[gipper]

I find it hard to believe you have never heard of him. If true, you need to read him extensively. He is one of the greatest.

He's full of shit, from what I read of his article.

Your post may indicate that you may be terribly ignorant.

 

[longknife]

Indentured servants aren't slaves. That's just a myth perpetrated by some people who want to make themselves feel better. If one feels bad when taught history, is it history's fault or do you need to look inside your own psyche to find the cause?

Were you born stupid or did you grow into it

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Indentured "slavery" had no ideological basis. It was an answer to the British establishments fear of the mob. That was a very real factor in those days.
The answer was to ship white trash a long way away from civilisation. Out of sight , out of mind.

It wasnt a pleasant experience but neither was life in London if you were poor.
The pay off is that they were able to improve their lot after serving.

I dont think that it can be compared to black slavery. These people werent picked up by gangs. They were sent there because they had done something, however trivial it might seem to us. And they had a light at the end of the tunnel in a country that had many similarities to the one they had left. Religion,language and so on.

And they didnt have to suffer centuries of racist oppression on account of their skin colour.

If you want to learn about slavery then you need to read The Slave Trade by Hugh Thomas. However it is dry stuff.

 

[irosie91]

Indentured "slavery" had no ideological basis. It was an answer to the British establishments fear of the mob. That was a very real factor in those days.
The answer was to ship white trash a long way away from civilisation. Out of sight , out of mind.

It wasnt a pleasant experience but neither was life in London if you were poor.
The pay off is that they were able to improve their lot after serving.

I dont think that it can be compared to black slavery. These people werent picked up by gangs. They were sent there because they had done something, however trivial it might seem to us. And they had a light at the end of the tunnel in a country that had many similarities to the one they had left. Religion,language and so on.

And they didnt have to suffer centuries of racist oppression on account of their skin colour.

If you want to learn about slavery then you need to read The Slave Trade by Hugh Thomas. However it is dry stuff.

England----despite that which you learned in kindergarten ------was NEVER THE WHOLE WORLD.
Slavery, in the course of history and over the planet -----has EXISTED in man forms. The British did
not invent it. --------even indentured servitude is not a british invention

 

[whitehall]

The Confederacy only lasted for about four years. The flag that flew from the stern of slave ships for 200 years was the Union Jack and later the Stars and Stripes.

 

[irosie91]

Indentured "slavery" had no ideological basis. It was an answer to the British establishments fear of the mob. That was a very real factor in those days.
The answer was to ship white trash a long way away from civilisation. Out of sight , out of mind.

It wasnt a pleasant experience but neither was life in London if you were poor.
The pay off is that they were able to improve their lot after serving.

I dont think that it can be compared to black slavery. These people werent picked up by gangs. They were sent there because they had done something, however trivial it might seem to us. And they had a light at the end of the tunnel in a country that had many similarities to the one they had left. Religion,language and so on.

And they didnt have to suffer centuries of racist oppression on account of their skin colour.

If you want to learn about slavery then you need to read The Slave Trade by Hugh Thomas. However it is dry stuff.

The statement "Indentured slavery has no ideological basis" is the idiot statement of the
twenty first century. Slavery has existed for thousands of years------over the entire planet---
in many different forms. Indentured servitude is one form------England did not invent it

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The Confederacy only lasted for about four years. The flag that flew from the stern of slave ships for 200 years was the Union Jack and later the Stars and Stripes.

The confederacy only lasted 4 years because decent Americans smashed it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Indentured "slavery" had no ideological basis. It was an answer to the British establishments fear of the mob. That was a very real factor in those days.
The answer was to ship white trash a long way away from civilisation. Out of sight , out of mind.

It wasnt a pleasant experience but neither was life in London if you were poor.
The pay off is that they were able to improve their lot after serving.

I dont think that it can be compared to black slavery. These people werent picked up by gangs. They were sent there because they had done something, however trivial it might seem to us. And they had a light at the end of the tunnel in a country that had many similarities to the one they had left. Religion,language and so on.

And they didnt have to suffer centuries of racist oppression on account of their skin colour.

If you want to learn about slavery then you need to read The Slave Trade by Hugh Thomas. However it is dry stuff.

The statement "Indentured slavery has no ideological basis" is the idiot statement of the
twenty first century. Slavery has existed for thousands of years------over the entire planet---
in many different forms. Indentured servitude is one form------England did not invent it

You either deliberately misunderstand me or there is some comprehension issue.

 

[irosie91]

Indentured "slavery" had no ideological basis. It was an answer to the British establishments fear of the mob. That was a very real factor in those days.
The answer was to ship white trash a long way away from civilisation. Out of sight , out of mind.

It wasnt a pleasant experience but neither was life in London if you were poor.
The pay off is that they were able to improve their lot after serving.

I dont think that it can be compared to black slavery. These people werent picked up by gangs. They were sent there because they had done something, however trivial it might seem to us. And they had a light at the end of the tunnel in a country that had many similarities to the one they had left. Religion,language and so on.

And they didnt have to suffer centuries of racist oppression on account of their skin colour.

If you want to learn about slavery then you need to read The Slave Trade by Hugh Thomas. However it is dry stuff.

The statement "Indentured slavery has no ideological basis" is the idiot statement of the
twenty first century. Slavery has existed for thousands of years------over the entire planet---
in many different forms. Indentured servitude is one form------England did not invent it

You either deliberately misunderstand me or there is some comprehension issue.

nope---- you posted a silly and meaningless statement. -------your "interpretation" of indentured
servitude as being a british innovation "to get rid of white trash"-----which has "no ideological
basis" is gibberish

 

[task0778]

Indentured servants aren't slaves. That's just a myth perpetrated by some people who want to make themselves feel better. If one feels bad when taught history, is it history's fault or do you need to look inside your own psyche to find the cause?

Were you born stupid or did you grow into it

Indentured servants voluntarily signed a contract to work for somebody for a certain number of years. A slave is a sold piece of property that had no say at all in the process until he/she dies. To say they are the same thing is nonsense.

 

[irosie91]

Indentured servants aren't slaves. That's just a myth perpetrated by some people who want to make themselves feel better. If one feels bad when taught history, is it history's fault or do you need to look inside your own psyche to find the cause?

Were you born stupid or did you grow into it

Indentured servants voluntarily signed a contract to work for somebody for a certain number of years. A slave is a sold piece of property that had no say at all in the process until he/she dies. To say they are the same thing is nonsense.

I did not notice that ANYONE suggest that indentured servitude is THE SAME as chattel servitude----
simply that both are FORMS of slavery-----lots of permutations on the various FORMS of slavery over the
past 5000 + years ------indentured slavery was not always VOLUNTARY----sometimes it was a sentence.
In fact----it is not really voluntary at all-------even when agreed upon-----it is take this or take worse situation

 

[irosie91]

The Confederacy only lasted for about four years. The flag that flew from the stern of slave ships for 200 years was the Union Jack and later the Stars and Stripes.

The confederacy only lasted 4 years because decent Americans smashed it.

lots of people in the south were decent people

 

[whitehall]

The Confederacy only lasted for about four years. The flag that flew from the stern of slave ships for 200 years was the Union Jack and later the Stars and Stripes.

The confederacy only lasted 4 years because decent Americans smashed it.

Actually decent Americans eventually smashed the criminal enterprise known as the British monarchy and turned it into an inbred bit of ceremonial fluff. Later on the Colonies saved the country formerly known as England from speaking German.

 

[longknife]

Indentured "slavery" had no ideological basis. It was an answer to the British establishments fear of the mob. That was a very real factor in those days.
The answer was to ship white trash a long way away from civilisation. Out of sight , out of mind.

It wasnt a pleasant experience but neither was life in London if you were poor.
The pay off is that they were able to improve their lot after serving.

I dont think that it can be compared to black slavery. These people werent picked up by gangs. They were sent there because they had done something, however trivial it might seem to us. And they had a light at the end of the tunnel in a country that had many similarities to the one they had left. Religion,language and so on.

And they didnt have to suffer centuries of racist oppression on account of their skin colour.

If you want to learn about slavery then you need to read The Slave Trade by Hugh Thomas. However it is dry stuff.

The statement "Indentured slavery has no ideological basis" is the idiot statement of the
twenty first century. Slavery has existed for thousands of years------over the entire planet---
in many different forms. Indentured servitude is one form------England did not invent it

I think records from all known civilizations refer to slavery of some kind.

 

[longknife]

Indentured servants aren't slaves. That's just a myth perpetrated by some people who want to make themselves feel better. If one feels bad when taught history, is it history's fault or do you need to look inside your own psyche to find the cause?

Were you born stupid or did you grow into it

Indentured servants voluntarily signed a contract to work for somebody for a certain number of years. A slave is a sold piece of property that had no say at all in the process until he/she dies. To say they are the same thing is nonsense.

Wrong! Many indentured servants in the UK came from debtors prisons and their signing a contract was hardly "voluntary." It was their way to getting themselves and their families free from economic tyranny.