The downside of carrying a firearm...

[Vandalshandle]

What percentage of LEGAL gun owners ever shoot anyone?

Can anyone tell me that?

I'm not sure, but I suspect that the number of people who die from bullet wounds that were shot by guns is around 100%....

 

[hunarcy]

The cop will now spend his remaining years in prison. All because he had to be "safe" by bringing a gun into a movie theater

So, you've already convicted him without hearing his side of the story? Then, what's the point of discussing things?

 

[rightwinger]

Very true.....

Our society is suffering from the Gubmint gunning down 13,000 Americans a year

The 2nd amendment was about protecting Americans from redcoats and indians. Since neither is now a threat, the 2nd amendment is now obsolete.

Now days the "indians" are in their teens and drive brand new Escalades and carry stolen hand guns and like to play the 'knock-out' game and wear ball caps sideways with two foot long peaks and have gold 'grilles' and wear their pants like they have 'loaded' them and have to run in packs because individually they are cowards and after all that's what their ancestors did in the jungle and they can only get like 12 year old simians who don't know what the word 'today' means to impregnate and of course the odd pure White 'snow bunny' if they have enough money to buy one.
That's why the second amendment is important.

I still don't trust them....they are still Indians

All they are interested in is stealing our white women and scalping the menfolk

That is why we need our guns

 

[rightwinger]

The cop will now spend his remaining years in prison. All because he had to be "safe" by bringing a gun into a movie theater

So, you've already convicted him without hearing his side of the story? Then, what's the point of discussing things?

Actually, yes I have

 

[jon_berzerk]

The cop will now spend his remaining years in prison. All because he had to be "safe" by bringing a gun into a movie theater

So, you've already convicted him without hearing his side of the story? Then, what's the point of discussing things?

it is too early to tell the out come of this incident

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry, bubble head, but your COMMIE LEFTIST ANTI CONSTITUTION BULL SHIT isn't going to hold water here. It is the "POPULACE" by a VAST MAJORITY that WANT their second amendment RIGHT to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, and because of people like YOU, firearm sales in America jumped FORTY PERCENT last year.

It is you CONSTITUTION HATING, RADICAL, COMMIE LEFTARDS that think everyone should be disarmed that are the minority.

Fuck off, COMMIE.

Why would you advertise that you have guns to steal and your neighbor doesn't?

Bad guys like guns

Wake up pal. Do you really believe some simians would attempt to steal the dudes guns? They are genetically programed to be cowards. That's why they do everything in packs.
"Let's see. Do we try to break into the dudes house who is clearly stating he has some fire power and will use it or do we walk into the LIB-pussy's house next door and bang his wife and girls and walk off with their electronics?"

Wake up pal

Do you really think your guns can shoot themselves? Do you really think criminals are afraid of a sign? Do you really think a criminal cannot figure out if you are home or not?

Go ahead advertise that you have guns. A criminal wants to steal your guns more than he wants to steal my 50 in HDTV

 

[Slacker]

Adding a firearm to the equation turned what would have been a shoving and shouting match into a fatality

Yep. Up until the nutter pulled his gun, the worst damage was caused by thrown popcorn. Popcorn would not have made a three year old an orphan.

The nutters are defending in the indefensible.

So there is no level of violence between popcorn throwing and shooting? you forget a good old fashioned ass-kicking.

And don't forget that it was at a kids hockey game that a parent got mad at another parent and punched him and killed him. So much for they theory that only guns can kill.

 

[rightwinger]

Yep. Up until the nutter pulled his gun, the worst damage was caused by thrown popcorn. Popcorn would not have made a three year old an orphan.

The nutters are defending in the indefensible.

So there is no level of violence between popcorn throwing and shooting? you forget a good old fashioned ass-kicking.

And don't forget that it was at a kids hockey game that a parent got mad at another parent and punched him and killed him. So much for they theory that only guns can kill.

There have been many fights between parents at kids sports contests. They usually end in a bloody nose and some big time embarassed kids
We can be sure that if guns were involved they would have ended in deaths

 

[Pogo]

Yep. Up until the nutter pulled his gun, the worst damage was caused by thrown popcorn. Popcorn would not have made a three year old an orphan.

The nutters are defending in the indefensible.

So there is no level of violence between popcorn throwing and shooting? you forget a good old fashioned ass-kicking.

And don't forget that it was at a kids hockey game that a parent got mad at another parent and punched him and killed him. So much for they theory that only guns can kill.

That was a woman actually.

The idea is not, and never has been, that "only" guns can kill. It's that (a) they make it so much easier, and (b) they're hawked continually by the testosterone-drowning NRA mentality to a culture already bent on violence. Guess where that combination leads.

 

[Vox]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

Exactly.

Damned pesky militias

gun ownership is not connected to formation of militia.
Formation of the latter one should not be infringed as bearing arms should not be infringed.

TWO rights in ONE Amendment

 

[TemplarKormac]

So there is no level of violence between popcorn throwing and shooting? you forget a good old fashioned ass-kicking.

And don't forget that it was at a kids hockey game that a parent got mad at another parent and punched him and killed him. So much for they theory that only guns can kill.

That was a woman actually.

The idea is not, and never has been, that "only" guns can kill. It's that (a) they make it so much easier, and (b) they're hawked continually by the testosterone-drowning NRA mentality to a culture already bent on violence. Guess where that combination leads.

My father was diagnosed has having the predisposition of a psychopath. Not only did he serve in Grenada and The Gulf War, he is a law abiding gun owner and NRA member. He's also a trained marksman. I mean he could have gone DC sniper on the entire neighborhood but he never did. He could have at any time turned his guns on me, my brother, his wife or my grandmother. To say that this culture is "bent on violence" is a misnomer. Criminals are "bent on violence" not law abiding gun owners (with the exception of a few very extenuating circumstances).

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The 2nd amendment was about protecting Americans from redcoats and indians. Since neither is now a threat, the 2nd amendment is now obsolete.

Then get it repealed. Until then go pound sand.

Can't get it repealed, The NRA has the US by the balls and is squeezing much too hard.

It's more than obvious you have no balls.

 

[Vox]

As much as the gun nuts love to bring up cases where an armed citizen prevented a crime, they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equation

We need a sensible discussion of firearms in this country. It is not always all good or all bad

There are many cases where having arms available saves lives. Prevent crimes and protect the innocent
There are also many cases in which an armed citizen uses it in domestic violence, road rage or suicide

But we are not allowed to discuss the role of guns in our society....NRA has made sure of that

The ONLY reason the guy could go crazy and be sure nobody would shoot HIM is the stupid gun free zone. HE KNEW he is the only one with a gun.

Did the idiot gun control law helped? No, it CAUSED the posssibility of altercation.

Yet the stupid gun grabbers pretend not to understand it.


Becasue their main aim is NOT the safety of the people, their main aim is to GRAB YOUR GUNS.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So there is no level of violence between popcorn throwing and shooting? you forget a good old fashioned ass-kicking.

And don't forget that it was at a kids hockey game that a parent got mad at another parent and punched him and killed him. So much for they theory that only guns can kill.

There have been many fights between parents at kids sports contests. They usually end in a bloody nose and some big time embarassed kids
We can be sure that if guns were involved they would have ended in deaths

So, what exactly is your justification for infringing on the 2nd Amendment rights of others? America has 315 million citizens. According to the last CDC report, 13,000+ people died from gunshot wounds or roughly 0.0000041% of the entire population. But suddenly you think we should limit or completely do away with gun ownership? Really?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

On the theaters' website is a list of prohibited items and actions. Among them: No cell phone use, including texting, in the theater auditorium. And no weapons allowed.

Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com

The website list about firearms carries no legal authority. You may be asked to leave but no crime is committed.

Signs mean absolutely nothing in Florida.
As long as it is not a place that is on the NO CARRY list...

Places off-limits when carrying:

1. any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05
2. any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station
3. any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse
4. any courtroom*
5. any polling place
6. any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district
7. any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof
8. any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms
9. any school administration building
10. any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption*
11. any elementary or secondary school facility
12. any area technical center
13. any college or university facility*
14. inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport*
15. any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law

who said it was a crime

not me

however the theater as far as the owners are concerned

consider it a gun free zone

most folks would honor their wishes or go elsewhere

i would honor their wishes by going elsewhere

It doesn't matter what the owners consider it to be it's what the law considers it to be that matters. Their wishes are not going to protect me from a mad gunman. In a free society I am free to carry my firearm in any establishment that is not designated a "gun free" zone or is not displaying the proper signage that their respective laws require.

IN other words, I don't honor any signs that don't meet legal standards. In Texas a 30.06 sign and a 51% sign are the only signs I'm required to adhere to.

 

[Vox]

Shit yea
We could have had a shootout in the theater....that would have fixed things

A shithead with anger issues was packing and an innocent man lost his life

Most probably we won't have even an altercation as the guy opposing the texting would be polite in asking to stop and the guy texting would either politely explain it 's a 3 yo he is texting and he will be done in a sec, or just go outside.

Your idiocy about the "shootout" is just an idiocy ecasue everywhere else except the stupid gun free zones people are packing but there are no shootouts.

except in the stupid gun free zones.

Get them out.

So now, "guns don't kill people" and "people don't kill people" --- no, in fact it's gun-free zone signs that kill people.

gun free zone is the reason this nut was absolutely sure he is going to be the only one armed and there is nobody else who can shoot HIM.


Would it e the otherwise - he might have keep his irritation to himself or handle the situation differently

 

[PoliticalChic]

Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com

It is more of a mental health issue. This was a retired cop, but it could have been anyone with a carry permit. Pretty sad

"but it could have been anyone with a carry permit. Pretty sad."

Actually, what is sadder, Jimmy, is the gun-grabbers ignoring the statistics.

Example:

“Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.” Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas | Wichita Eagle



(That is .00086% criminality. Can you point to any other group....including gun-haters with such a record?)

 

[Vox]

The 2nd amendment was about protecting Americans from redcoats and indians. Since neither is now a threat, the 2nd amendment is now obsolete.

wrong:

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson



The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.-Thomas Jefferson

Stop living in the past. Got a real reason that's valid for today's world?

yes, we do.

The exact reason The Second is there.

The opressive, infringing on our rights greedy and ever expanding government.

 

[LoneLaugher]

So we should disarm everyong because of one nut case ?

Should we ban cars when a mental case drives into a crowd?

Such a stupid argument. You expose yourself.

 

[Bumberclyde]

Well it looks like pounding sand is your only option then.

I wouldn't live in a gun crazy country, so please keep shooting each other if that's what you all prefer. I was just trying to help by adding some common sense to the debate. Obviously, you prefer more dead people than less, which makes you possibly insane. Please see a mental health specialist.

Given the fact that you have zero understanding of what living in America is like maybe you ought to keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.
Or maybe you'd like to also give us your opinion of how you would deal with the mafia in Moscow....without ever setting foot in the fucking place?
You're a LIB-pussy waste of bandwidth.
BTW genius the only people who habitually kill each other with stolen hand guns every day in every inner city in the country are the simians. The law abiding people who own legal guns do so partly to deter the simians. And it works.

Maybe if your gun laws weren't so lax the simians wouldn't be able to get any guns, because they sure aren't making them in their basements, they're buying American-made guns.