The downside of carrying a firearm...

[dannyboys]

The real point is that guns are too far out of control in the US, and there are just too many around, to be able to do any real sort of gun control. The NRA has terrorized the populace so much for so long that there probably won't be any going back to a saner society where people don't feel the need to be packing.

Sorry, bubble head, but your COMMIE LEFTIST ANTI CONSTITUTION BULL SHIT isn't going to hold water here. It is the "POPULACE" by a VAST MAJORITY that WANT their second amendment RIGHT to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, and because of people like YOU, firearm sales in America jumped FORTY PERCENT last year.

It is you CONSTITUTION HATING, RADICAL, COMMIE LEFTARDS that think everyone should be disarmed that are the minority.

Fuck off, COMMIE.

Why would you advertise that you have guns to steal and your neighbor doesn't?

Bad guys like guns

Wake up pal. Do you really believe some simians would attempt to steal the dudes guns? They are genetically programed to be cowards. That's why they do everything in packs.
"Let's see. Do we try to break into the dudes house who is clearly stating he has some fire power and will use it or do we walk into the LIB-pussy's house next door and bang his wife and girls and walk off with their electronics?"

 

[jon_berzerk]

As much as the gun nuts love to bring up cases where an armed citizen prevented a crime, they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equation

We need a sensible discussion of firearms in this country. It is not always all good or all bad

There are many cases where having arms available saves lives. Prevent crimes and protect the innocent
There are also many cases in which an armed citizen uses it in domestic violence, road rage or suicide

But we are not allowed to discuss the role of guns in our society....NRA has made sure of that

they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equatio

the retired cop was in the wrong

the theater is a gun free zone

on the other hand

guns saves lives

The shooting happened just before 9 p.m. Saturday, when the gunman walked into the Mystic Gentleman’s Club at Southeast Stark Street and Southeast 99th Avenue and opened fire, said Sgt. Pete Simpson with Portland police.
The shooter hit three people, prompting a person in the bar to return fire, hitting and critically injuring the suspect.

Strip club shooter denied entry, returned with mask, gun | kgw.com Portland

 

[Lonestar_logic]

As much as the gun nuts love to bring up cases where an armed citizen prevented a crime, they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equation

We need a sensible discussion of firearms in this country. It is not always all good or all bad

There are many cases where having arms available saves lives. Prevent crimes and protect the innocent
There are also many cases in which an armed citizen uses it in domestic violence, road rage or suicide

But we are not allowed to discuss the role of guns in our society....NRA has made sure of that

they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equatio

the retired cop was in the wrong

the theater is a gun free zone

on the other hand

guns saves lives

The shooting happened just before 9 p.m. Saturday, when the gunman walked into the Mystic Gentleman’s Club at Southeast Stark Street and Southeast 99th Avenue and opened fire, said Sgt. Pete Simpson with Portland police.
The shooter hit three people, prompting a person in the bar to return fire, hitting and critically injuring the suspect.

Strip club shooter denied entry, returned with mask, gun | kgw.com Portland

What made this theater a gun free zone?

In Florida which I believe this occurred movie theaters are not gun free zones.

 

[Pogo]

Well if everyone in the theater was armed, they could have shot the cop

Instead, an unarmed person relieved the nutter of his weapon.

Too bad it was AFTER a bad guy with a gun stopped a good guy with a phone.

Implying that everyone with a carry permit is a potential murderer and then using that false statement for a argument for gun control is the same as saying every driver is a potential drunk driver who will kill someone so we should suspend everyone's license.

I'll do more than "imply". I will state outright that anyone with a gun is a potential killer/murderer. Being ready and able to kill is the only reason to carry a gun.

The silly ass comparison to cars is just nonsense because, among other reasons, we pass laws to mitigate the damages that can be done by cars and drunks. We also require that drivers have insurance or can prove they can pay for the damage they cause.

Most hand carry firearms do not have the stopping power to afford a carrier the license to kill. Most are for self defense, you ignorant shit stain on society. That said, most who carry a gun reserve the right TO DEFEND themselves, not kill someone else. But to a moron, there is no difference between the initiation of violence and defending oneself.

Because you can not fix stupid. You just can not.

-- But you can aim a gun at it and blow it away, right?

I love living in a society so creative that its solution to everything is just to blow it up.

 

[TooTall]

The 2nd amendment was about protecting Americans from redcoats and indians. Since neither is now a threat, the 2nd amendment is now obsolete.

Then get it repealed. Until then go pound sand.

Can't get it repealed, The NRA has the US by the balls and is squeezing much too hard.

I find it hard to believe that an organization with a mere 5 million members has the power to squeeze very hard.

 

[Pogo]

Most hand carry firearms do not have the stopping power to afford a carrier the license to kill. Most are for self defense, you ignorant shit stain on society. That said, most who carry a gun reserve the right TO DEFEND themselves, not kill someone else. But to a moron, there is no difference between the initiation of violence and defending oneself.

Because you can not fix stupid. You just can not.

The real point is that guns are too far out of control in the US, and there are just too many around, to be able to do any real sort of gun control. The NRA has terrorized the populace so much for so long that there probably won't be any going back to a saner society where people don't feel the need to be packing.

Sorry, bubble head, but your COMMIE LEFTIST ANTI CONSTITUTION BULL SHIT isn't going to hold water here. It is the "POPULACE" by a VAST MAJORITY that WANT their second amendment RIGHT to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, and because of people like YOU, firearm sales in America jumped FORTY PERCENT last year.

It is you CONSTITUTION HATING, RADICAL, COMMIE LEFTARDS that think everyone should be disarmed that are the minority.

Fuck off, COMMIE.

Holy shit-- get a grip dood.

He said nothing about the Second Amendment (or communism, or leftism or the Constitution, or 'banning' anything); in fact he noted that "gun control" laws would be ineffective. He referred to a terrorized packing public that "feels the need". That's a statement about attitude, not laws. And it's a worthy one.

Try listening to what somebody's saying before jumping into attack mode, huh? A meltdown like that doesn't exactly bolster your position, yanno?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Instead, an unarmed person relieved the nutter of his weapon.

Too bad it was AFTER a bad guy with a gun stopped a good guy with a phone.



I'll do more than "imply". I will state outright that anyone with a gun is a potential killer/murderer. Being ready and able to kill is the only reason to carry a gun.

The silly ass comparison to cars is just nonsense because, among other reasons, we pass laws to mitigate the damages that can be done by cars and drunks. We also require that drivers have insurance or can prove they can pay for the damage they cause.

Most hand carry firearms do not have the stopping power to afford a carrier the license to kill. Most are for self defense, you ignorant shit stain on society. That said, most who carry a gun reserve the right TO DEFEND themselves, not kill someone else. But to a moron, there is no difference between the initiation of violence and defending oneself.

Because you can not fix stupid. You just can not.

-- But you can aim a gun at it and blow it away, right?

I love living in a society so creative that its solution to everything is just to blow it up.

You must love living in fantasy land.

 

[Defiant1]

As much as the gun nuts love to bring up cases where an armed citizen prevented a crime, they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equation

We need a sensible discussion of firearms in this country. It is not always all good or all bad

There are many cases where having arms available saves lives. Prevent crimes and protect the innocent
There are also many cases in which an armed citizen uses it in domestic violence, road rage or suicide

But we are not allowed to discuss the role of guns in our society....NRA has made sure of that

they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equatio

the retired cop was in the wrong

the theater is a gun free zone

on the other hand

guns saves lives

The shooting happened just before 9 p.m. Saturday, when the gunman walked into the Mystic Gentleman’s Club at Southeast Stark Street and Southeast 99th Avenue and opened fire, said Sgt. Pete Simpson with Portland police.
The shooter hit three people, prompting a person in the bar to return fire, hitting and critically injuring the suspect.

Strip club shooter denied entry, returned with mask, gun | kgw.com Portland

Where does it say the theater was a gun free zone?

 

[dannyboys]

Can't get it repealed, The NRA has the US by the balls and is squeezing much too hard.

Well it looks like pounding sand is your only option then.

I wouldn't live in a gun crazy country, so please keep shooting each other if that's what you all prefer. I was just trying to help by adding some common sense to the debate. Obviously, you prefer more dead people than less, which makes you possibly insane. Please see a mental health specialist.

Given the fact that you have zero understanding of what living in America is like maybe you ought to keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.
Or maybe you'd like to also give us your opinion of how you would deal with the mafia in Moscow....without ever setting foot in the fucking place?
You're a LIB-pussy waste of bandwidth.
BTW genius the only people who habitually kill each other with stolen hand guns every day in every inner city in the country are the simians. The law abiding people who own legal guns do so partly to deter the simians. And it works.

 

[Defiant1]

Stop living in the past. Got a real reason that's valid for today's world?

It's as valid today as it was then.

Some would say even more so, today.

So you need your guns to fight the US army?

I need my guns to prevent anyone from taking my liberty, without just cause.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So we should disarm everyong because of one nut case ?

Should we ban cars when a mental case drives into a crowd?

You truly are an idiot.

You let gun control advocates hook you, making gun owners look ridiculous, thus reinforcing their advocacy of more regulations.

 

[Pogo]

without a gun free zone, which this movie theatre WAS, the guy with a gun might have been more restrained to use his own, as the wife of the guy texting might have killed him as well. Or any other moviegoer. Or the killed guy himself.

He knew he was packing there ALONE.

A repeat of the Aurora situation all over again.

I can guarantee you that this psycho won't be that fast to get loose anywhere else where carry is not prohibited.

It's Florida. People know that anybody next to you can be packing.
And generally people are polite and self-restrained.

Shit yea
We could have had a shootout in the theater....that would have fixed things

A shithead with anger issues was packing and an innocent man lost his life

Most probably we won't have even an altercation as the guy opposing the texting would be polite in asking to stop and the guy texting would either politely explain it 's a 3 yo he is texting and he will be done in a sec, or just go outside.

Your idiocy about the "shootout" is just an idiocy ecasue everywhere else except the stupid gun free zones people are packing but there are no shootouts.

except in the stupid gun free zones.

Get them out.

So now, "guns don't kill people" and "people don't kill people" --- no, in fact it's gun-free zone signs that kill people.

 

[jon_berzerk]

As much as the gun nuts love to bring up cases where an armed citizen prevented a crime, they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equation

We need a sensible discussion of firearms in this country. It is not always all good or all bad

There are many cases where having arms available saves lives. Prevent crimes and protect the innocent
There are also many cases in which an armed citizen uses it in domestic violence, road rage or suicide

But we are not allowed to discuss the role of guns in our society....NRA has made sure of that

they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equatio

the retired cop was in the wrong

the theater is a gun free zone

on the other hand

guns saves lives

The shooting happened just before 9 p.m. Saturday, when the gunman walked into the Mystic Gentleman’s Club at Southeast Stark Street and Southeast 99th Avenue and opened fire, said Sgt. Pete Simpson with Portland police.
The shooter hit three people, prompting a person in the bar to return fire, hitting and critically injuring the suspect.

Strip club shooter denied entry, returned with mask, gun | kgw.com Portland

What made this theater a gun free zone?

In Florida which I believe this occurred movie theaters are not gun free zones.

On the theaters' website is a list of prohibited items and actions. Among them: No cell phone use, including texting, in the theater auditorium. And no weapons allowed.

Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com

 

[Pogo]

Well it looks like pounding sand is your only option then.

I wouldn't live in a gun crazy country, so please keep shooting each other if that's what you all prefer. I was just trying to help by adding some common sense to the debate. Obviously, you prefer more dead people than less, which makes you possibly insane. Please see a mental health specialist.

Given the fact that you have zero understanding of what living in America is like maybe you ought to keep your idiotic opinions to yourself.
Or maybe you'd like to also give us your opinion of how you would deal with the mafia in Moscow....without ever setting foot in the fucking place?
You're a LIB-pussy waste of bandwidth.
BTW genius the only people who habitually kill each other with stolen hand guns every day in every inner city in the country are the simians. The law abiding people who own legal guns do so partly to deter the simians. And it works.

Another emotional meltdown that can't read. Some of y'all are like a freaking baby getting his pacifier taken away. Somebody makes a simple observation, attack his mental health and tell 'em to shut up.

Which is ironic if you consider the Amendment that comes right before the Second one. I don't think you could grok the idea of the Constitution if you ate the document and shat it out.

 

[Spiderman]

What percentage of LEGAL gun owners ever shoot anyone?

Can anyone tell me that?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So we should disarm everyong because of one nut case ?

Should we ban cars when a mental case drives into a crowd?

No but we have many safety regulations on said cars that have reduced deaths caused by accidents. You have to pass a drivers test and complete comprehensive training to get a liscense. Not the weekend "training course" you need in most states for your CC.

Only if you plan to drive on state roads. You dont need a license to buy and drive a car around your own property. The same as you should not need a background check on a firearm you plan to keep on your own property.

It's just that gun grabbers like to pre-emptively attack firearm owners because it's a platform position for the weak parasites. They love a gun grabber.

And yet another idiot chimes in to help further erode our Second Amendment rights.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equatio

the retired cop was in the wrong

the theater is a gun free zone

on the other hand

guns saves lives

The shooting happened just before 9 p.m. Saturday, when the gunman walked into the Mystic Gentleman’s Club at Southeast Stark Street and Southeast 99th Avenue and opened fire, said Sgt. Pete Simpson with Portland police.
The shooter hit three people, prompting a person in the bar to return fire, hitting and critically injuring the suspect.

Strip club shooter denied entry, returned with mask, gun | kgw.com Portland

What made this theater a gun free zone?

In Florida which I believe this occurred movie theaters are not gun free zones.

On the theaters' website is a list of prohibited items and actions. Among them: No cell phone use, including texting, in the theater auditorium. And no weapons allowed.

Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com

The website list about firearms carries no legal authority. You may be asked to leave but no crime is committed.

Signs mean absolutely nothing in Florida.
As long as it is not a place that is on the NO CARRY list...

Places off-limits when carrying:

1. any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05
2. any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station
3. any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse
4. any courtroom*
5. any polling place
6. any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district
7. any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof
8. any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms
9. any school administration building
10. any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption*
11. any elementary or secondary school facility
12. any area technical center
13. any college or university facility*
14. inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport*
15. any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law

 

[Pogo]

As much as the gun nuts love to bring up cases where an armed citizen prevented a crime, they go into a frenzy when a case comes up where an armed citizen causes an unnecessary death that could have been avoided if firearms were not in the equation

We need a sensible discussion of firearms in this country. It is not always all good or all bad

There are many cases where having arms available saves lives. Prevent crimes and protect the innocent
There are also many cases in which an armed citizen uses it in domestic violence, road rage or suicide

But we are not allowed to discuss the role of guns in our society....NRA has made sure of that

And should anyone try, we can count on multiple posters to jump up, insult them and tell them to shut up and get the fuck out. QED.

Nothing has changed; it's the same thing I was saying a year ago when I got to this site:
Bob Costas must be "fired"...
Pierce Morgan must be "deported" ...
David Gregory must be "arrested" ...

See the pattern.

 

[jon_berzerk]

What made this theater a gun free zone?

In Florida which I believe this occurred movie theaters are not gun free zones.

On the theaters' website is a list of prohibited items and actions. Among them: No cell phone use, including texting, in the theater auditorium. And no weapons allowed.

Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com

The website list about firearms carries no legal authority. You may be asked to leave but no crime is committed.

Signs mean absolutely nothing in Florida.
As long as it is not a place that is on the NO CARRY list...

Places off-limits when carrying:

1. any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05
2. any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station
3. any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse
4. any courtroom*
5. any polling place
6. any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district
7. any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof
8. any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms
9. any school administration building
10. any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption*
11. any elementary or secondary school facility
12. any area technical center
13. any college or university facility*
14. inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport*
15. any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law

who said it was a crime

not me

however the theater as far as the owners are concerned

consider it a gun free zone

most folks would honor their wishes or go elsewhere

i would honor their wishes by going elsewhere

 

[Pogo]

Can't get it repealed, The NRA has the US by the balls and is squeezing much too hard.

Well it looks like pounding sand is your only option then.

I wouldn't live in a gun crazy country, so please keep shooting each other if that's what you all prefer. I was just trying to help by adding some common sense to the debate. Obviously, you prefer more dead people than less, which makes you possibly insane. Please see a mental health specialist.

It's exactly the kind of hissyfit I get when I do the same thing. Dare to suggest an attitude adjustment is in order and get blitzed with attitude.

Baby with a pacifier. No difference.