Zone1 The Design Argument for God’s Existence.

[Woodznutz]

do you mean the violence in the bible wasnt there before, and now its there?
or what.

I mean that violence is ancient history. The church doesn't go to war, persecute unbelievers, punish criminals, or conduct inquisitions.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We call them scientists.

The faithers sat around for 3 thousand years and preached your mythologies, and we have exactly nothing to show for it but some trinkets and baubles.

We started up modern science about two hundred years ago, and look at us now.

The Enemies of Creative Thought Have Evolved into a Higher Superstition

The Postmodern enemies of progress are trying to stop economic growth, but this time they are not religious tyrants.

 

[Woodznutz]

If theists can say that God existed eternally, we can say instead that everything else did, so there was no need for a Creator. Everything took different forms as time went on, by being affected by everything else.

I have no problem with that belief.

 

[Woodznutz]

No idea what you are talking about. That sentence doesn't have much meaning.

Living things appear to have been created.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Enemies of Creative Thought Have Evolved into a Higher Superstition

The Postmodern enemies of progress are trying to stop economic growth, but this time they are not religious tyrants.

Scientists are the authors of progress.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Living things appear to have been created.

*to your fallible human mind

Without the benefit of modern science, you would have been pointing at the sky and saying the sun appears to be a flaming chariot, and pointng at the ground saying the earth appears to be flat.

 

[Woodznutz]

Religion is not any type of science. Science is a process that has a very specific definition.

So why do scientists study the effects of religion on attitudes toward science?

 

[Woodznutz]

Scientists are the authors of progress.

Maybe they should turn their attention to human behavior. Its degradation seems to correlate with advances in science. For example, the smarter the few get the dumber the majority get. First science took away the need for work, now they're taking away the need to think. The result is a lazy, stupid population barely able to survive physically, mentally, or financially.

 

[Woodznutz]

*to your fallible human mind

Without the benefit of modern science, you would have been pointing at the sky and saying the sun appears to be a flaming chariot, and pointng at the ground saying the earth appears to be flat.

The ground does appear to be flat, although somewhat lumpy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So why do scientists study the effects of religion on attitudes toward science?

No idea. Do you have a link to a peer reviewed and published scientific article on that?

Scientists do lots of things. They aren't all science.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The ground does appear to be flat, although somewhat lumpy.

Exactly. See?

And Helium balloons appear to fly as if by magic.

 

[BreezeWood]

I mean that violence is ancient history. The church doesn't go to war, persecute unbelievers, punish criminals, or conduct inquisitions.

the simple separation of church and state is the definition of the above their false heavenly personifications are a corruption in of itself and the manner of their prosecution of the innocent.

 

[Libby von H]

No, I definitely think life formed from non life, right here on earth.

So do you. The difference is, you gave up and decided it was due to magic.

I and the scientific community prefer to find a better explanation that doesn't involve utter mental laziness and surrender.

NO, you don't see what your postion entails, it is that simple
You say that given time vegetable life becomes animal life. Given time animal life becomes human life.

If non-life is inherently capable of being life then there is no life/non-life distinction to begin with You hold a position called VITALISM

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I mean that violence is ancient history. The church doesn't go to war, persecute unbelievers, punish criminals, or conduct inquisitions.

Ungodly Permissiveness

What kind of God would let His churches do all that In His Name, taking advantage of His believers?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Living things appear to have been created.

Unreliable Source

And the Sun appears to orbit the Earth, which, by the way, was once a Biblical doctrine, which no one wants to mention.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Scientists are the authors of progress.

Believe in Common Sense, Not the Commies' Science

Bitter escapist nerd misfits, pretending to be comic-book superheroes out to save the world from toxic masculine science, should lose all credibility. Academic eunuchs are beneath contempt.

All we have opposing these wimpy wizards are employee-inventor pushovers, raped by the Grand Larceny of corporate patents. Sign of the times: those who desert and those who surrender.

 

[Woodznutz]

Unreliable Source

And the Sun appears to orbit the Earth, which, by the way, was once a Biblical doctrine, which no one wants to mention.

Meteorologists (weather 'scientists') still refer to "sunrise" and "sunset".

 

[Woodznutz]

No idea. Do you have a link to a peer reviewed and published scientific article on that?

Your question assumes there are no such studies.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

the simple separation of church and state is the definition of the above their false heavenly personifications are a corruption in of itself and the manner of their prosecution of the innocent.

The Authorities' Austerity

Theism creates a mindset of the divine right of kings and other powerful people, justifying cowardly obedience. So religion is a creation of tyrants. But they can find other ways of imposing that mindset.

 

[Woodznutz]

Believe in Common Sense, Not the Commies' Science

Our education system has successfully eliminated common sense from the minds of our people. If government or science doesn't have an answer, there is no answer.