The climate crusaders say coal is dying! LOL!!

[Old Rocks]

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Coal Data Browser, Short-Term Energy Outlook, and Coal Markets

EIA expects total 2017 U.S. coal production to be 773 million short tons (MMst), 45 MMst higher than in 2016 and the largest year-over-year tonnage increase since 2001. Coal prices across the United States rose as well, especially for Central Appalachian coal. An increase in demand for U.S. coal exports more than offset a slight decline in U.S. coal consumption, contributing to higher coal production in 2017.

U.S. coal production, exports, and prices increased in 2017 - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Why yes, it did. Barely. And the Powder River Basin output was virtually unchanged, contrary to another stinky 'fact' that Silly Billy pulled out of his ample ass. Now compare this to wind;

AWEA is expecting 10% wind power by 2020


And then there is solar;

Solar Panel Cost Trends (Tons of Charts)

Point made.

 

[skookerasbil]

So what have we learned so far in this thread? Well so far we have learned....

1. Coal is still a dominant energy source.

2. Renewable energy, particularly wind and solar, provide only a small fraction of our electricity needs. By 2040, wind and solar combined will STILL only provide a maximum of 10% of our electricity. ( as per Obama EIA report from 2017 )

3. By 2050, coal will STILL be dominating the energy landscape, especially in India and China who will be producing far more coal 30 years from now.



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HAPPY FATHER'S DAY !!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Coal Data Browser, Short-Term Energy Outlook, and Coal Markets

EIA expects total 2017 U.S. coal production to be 773 million short tons (MMst), 45 MMst higher than in 2016 and the largest year-over-year tonnage increase since 2001. Coal prices across the United States rose as well, especially for Central Appalachian coal. An increase in demand for U.S. coal exports more than offset a slight decline in U.S. coal consumption, contributing to higher coal production in 2017.

U.S. coal production, exports, and prices increased in 2017 - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Why yes, it did. Barely. And the Powder River Basin output was virtually unchanged, contrary to another stinky 'fact' that Silly Billy pulled out of his ample ass. Now compare this to wind;

AWEA is expecting 10% wind power by 2020


And then there is solar;

Solar Panel Cost Trends (Tons of Charts)

Point made.

Lol.....source used?

More climate crusader fakery.

A green energy site!!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Beyond the Coal Boom: Powder River Basin Residents Look to a Diversified Future | The Bill Lane Center for the American West

Really? Care to post a link to that?

Way to go dumbfuck... that graph ended while Obama was still president.... more Old Fraud useful idiocy.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Wyoming State Geological Survey

Wyoming jumped a cumulative 6.7%. Powder River jumped quit a bit more in percentage of state production.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Notice how Old bag of rocks completely ignored post 160, where the data was from the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!

U.S. Energy Information Agency

In the link shows that Powder River Basin, that Old rocks talked about show INCREASE in Coal production for 2017

"Coal production in 2017 in the United States was higher than in 2016 in each of the five major coal-producing regions. The largest regional increase in annual coal production was in the Powder River Basin, where production increased 8% (26 MMst) in 2017. "

 

[Sunsettommy]

Beyond the Coal Boom: Powder River Basin Residents Look to a Diversified Future | The Bill Lane Center for the American West

Really? Care to post a link to that?

Way to go dumbfuck... that graph ended while Obama was still president.... more Old Fraud useful idiocy.

That was up to the THIRD Quarter only for 2016.

He is that dishonest, Bob.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Coal Data Browser, Short-Term Energy Outlook, and Coal Markets

EIA expects total 2017 U.S. coal production to be 773 million short tons (MMst), 45 MMst higher than in 2016 and the largest year-over-year tonnage increase since 2001. Coal prices across the United States rose as well, especially for Central Appalachian coal. An increase in demand for U.S. coal exports more than offset a slight decline in U.S. coal consumption, contributing to higher coal production in 2017.

U.S. coal production, exports, and prices increased in 2017 - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Why yes, it did. Barely. And the Powder River Basin output was virtually unchanged, contrary to another stinky 'fact' that Silly Billy pulled out of his ample ass. Now compare this to wind;

AWEA is expecting 10% wind power by 2020


And then there is solar;

Solar Panel Cost Trends (Tons of Charts)

Point made.

A big drop in Solar is coming after China dropped subsidies on them:

From Jo Nova,

"China: solar stocks plummet as solar subsidies cut to “make electricity cheaper”

 

[skookerasbil]

Notice how Old bag of rocks completely ignored post 160, where the data was from the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!

U.S. Energy Information Agency

In the link shows that Powder River Basin, that Old rocks talked about show INCREASE in Coal production for 2017

"Coal production in 2017 in the United States was higher than in 2016 in each of the five major coal-producing regions. The largest regional increase in annual coal production was in the Powder River Basin, where production increased 8% (26 MMst) in 2017. "

Yep....that is Old Rocks MO....plus his sources to back his bold pronouncements are almost invariably from green energy websites. Right in a post above, he sources "Clean Technica" on renewable growth statistics!!

 

[Old Rocks]

Wyoming State Geological Survey

Wyoming jumped a cumulative 6.7%. Powder River jumped quit a bit more in percentage of state production.

Dumb fuck Silly Billy, that says that Wyoming produced 41% of the coal produced in the US, not that production jumped 40% as you claimed.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Wyoming State Geological Survey

Wyoming jumped a cumulative 6.7%. Powder River jumped quit a bit more in percentage of state production.

Dumb fuck Silly Billy, that says that Wyoming produced 41% of the coal produced in the US, not that production jumped 40% as you claimed.

I see that you are going to ignore posts 160, 166 and 168, gee I wonder why...…………….

 

[SSDD]

Coal provided 38% of our power in 1998 and 20 years later, and billions flushed down the green toilet, coal still provides 38% of our power.

 

[skookerasbil]

Coal provided 38% of our power in 1998 and 20 years later, and billions flushed down the green toilet, coal still provides 38% of our power.

Yep....coal sure is dead!

 

[Sunsettommy]

Coal provided 38% of our power in 1998 and 20 years later, and billions flushed down the green toilet, coal still provides 38% of our power.

I brought this up at post 156, they ignored it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Of course we ignored it. In spite of the orange clown, non-fossil fuels are gaining, and fossil fuels are declining. Exactly as shown on the graph.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Of course we ignored it. In spite of the orange clown, non-fossil fuels are gaining, and fossil fuels are declining. Exactly as shown on the graph.

You ignored it because YOU were wrong about the Wyoming site, thus want people miss it. You are wrong about Coal declining worldwide as you idiotically claimed.

You also don't even try to address the charts that have been posted at all.

 

[skookerasbil]

Of course we ignored it. In spite of the orange clown, non-fossil fuels are gaining, and fossil fuels are declining. Exactly as shown on the graph.

You ignored it because YOU were wrong about the Wyoming site, thus want people miss it. You are wrong about Coal declining worldwide as you idiotically claimed.

You also don't even try to address the charts that have been posted at all.

Well renewables are "growing". But the only relevant question is, as compared to what? Look at any pie chart vs fossil fuels and what does one see? They see this tiny little sliver of the big ass pie representing wind and solar....not enough to feed a bird.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Of course we ignored it. In spite of the orange clown, non-fossil fuels are gaining, and fossil fuels are declining. Exactly as shown on the graph.

You ignored it because YOU were wrong about the Wyoming site, thus want people miss it. You are wrong about Coal declining worldwide as you idiotically claimed.

You also don't even try to address the charts that have been posted at all.

Well renewables are "growing". But the only relevant question is, as compared to what? Look at any pie chart vs fossil fuels and what does one see? They see this tiny little sliver of the big ass pie representing wind and solar....not enough to feed a bird.

Yes there is an increase in EV sales, but their slice of the total sales remains in the same ballpark BECAUSE other cars and truck sales are going up too.

 

[skookerasbil]

Of course we ignored it. In spite of the orange clown, non-fossil fuels are gaining, and fossil fuels are declining. Exactly as shown on the graph.

You ignored it because YOU were wrong about the Wyoming site, thus want people miss it. You are wrong about Coal declining worldwide as you idiotically claimed.

You also don't even try to address the charts that have been posted at all.

Well renewables are "growing". But the only relevant question is, as compared to what? Look at any pie chart vs fossil fuels and what does one see? They see this tiny little sliver of the big ass pie representing wind and solar....not enough to feed a bird.

Yes there is an increase in EV sales, but their slice of the total sales remains in the same ballpark BECAUSE other cars and truck sales are going up too.

But read the fakery from the climate crusaders and you'd think EV's are dominating!

 

[Old Rocks]

As the solid state rapid charging batteries come on line, you will see a very rapid increase in the sale of the EV's.