The Clausewitz Failure

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, --- they are facts; to be sure. In one context they can event be true. But your implications are 180º out of phase with what those facts actually mean.

P F Tinmore, et al,

WoW!

Nobody attacked Israel.

(QUESTION)

Is this what you call revisionist history?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab armies fought Israeli forces in Palestine. How is that attacking Israel?

How do you manage to get the facts so completely befuddled?

That's the facts.

Do you have any real history that says different?

(COMMENT)

As explained in my Posting #191 (including the Map)., as well as in my Posting #196, your interpretation of the meaning is not factual --- not factual at all ---- not even close.

Yes we can say there is a truth here! --- This is true only to the degree that you understand that any military engagement --- by the unauthorized advance of armed forces --- into any territory in the former Mandate of Palestine is an act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

former Mandate of Palestine​

Why do you keep using that propaganda term. You can just as accurately use former mandate for Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, but I don't think you ever have. Why not?

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

WoW!

Nobody attacked Israel.

(QUESTION)

Is this what you call revisionist history?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab armies fought Israeli forces in Palestine. How is that attacking Israel?

How did they come to be in the mandate of palestine in the first place then. It was not their lands, and had not been granted to them under the LoN mandate system. They were invaders from foreign lands intent on mass murder and land theft.


Azzam's Genocidal Threat

Of the countless threats of violence, made by Arab and Palestinian leaders in the run up to and in the wake of the November 29, 1947 partition resolution, none has resonated more widely than the warning by Abdul Rahman Azzam, the Arab League's first secretary-general, that the establishment of a Jewish state would lead to "a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacre and the Crusades."



A pity it was the arab league that faced the massacres in your eyes

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

WoW!

Nobody attacked Israel.

(QUESTION)

Is this what you call revisionist history?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab armies fought Israeli forces in Palestine. How is that attacking Israel?

How do you manage to get the facts so completely befuddled?

Easy when you are an islamomoron propagandist stooge

 

[P F Tinmore]

In effect, a partition physically happened on the signing of the various Armistice Agreement.

The armistice agreements divided Palestine into three areas of occupation. They did not partition Palestine.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

WoW!

Nobody attacked Israel.

(QUESTION)

Is this what you call revisionist history?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab armies fought Israeli forces in Palestine. How is that attacking Israel?

How do you manage to get the facts so completely befuddled?

That's the facts.

Do you have any real history that says different?

 

[Hollie]

When the Mandate was terminated, the territory transferred to the UN Trusteeship under the Administration of the UN Palestine Commission.

Trustees don't own anything. The administration, not the actual Palestinian territory, was transferred.

Not that it matters. The UNPC was a no show and did not defend the territory or people under their trust.

You're learning... albeit at a crippled snail's pace.

There was no territory owned by Pal'istanians and there was no "country of Pal'istan" in spite of insistence to the contrary. So, it seems your flailing about is only for melodramatic affect.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How did they come to be in the mandate of palestine

They weren't. The Mandate had already left Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

When the Mandate was terminated, the territory transferred to the UN Trusteeship under the Administration of the UN Palestine Commission.

Trustees don't own anything. The administration, not the actual Palestinian territory, was transferred.

Not that it matters. The UNPC was a no show and did not defend the territory or people under their trust.

You're learning... albeit at a crippled snail's pace.

There was no territory owned by Pal'istanians and there was no "country of Pal'istan" in spite of insistence to the contrary. So, it seems your flailing about is only for melodramatic affect.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

 

[Hollie]

How did they come to be in the mandate of palestine

They weren't. The Mandate had already left Palestine.

The Mandate was not an entity that came or left. Your confusion regarding the most basic elements of knowledge regarding the history of the area is concerning.

 

[Hollie]

When the Mandate was terminated, the territory transferred to the UN Trusteeship under the Administration of the UN Palestine Commission.

Trustees don't own anything. The administration, not the actual Palestinian territory, was transferred.

Not that it matters. The UNPC was a no show and did not defend the territory or people under their trust.

You're learning... albeit at a crippled snail's pace.

There was no territory owned by Pal'istanians and there was no "country of Pal'istan" in spite of insistence to the contrary. So, it seems your flailing about is only for melodramatic affect.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

Sidestepping Tinmore dance moves.

Truly, you need some new slogans to dump into the thread when you're utterly befuddled.

 

[Phoenall]

When the Mandate was terminated, the territory transferred to the UN Trusteeship under the Administration of the UN Palestine Commission.

Trustees don't own anything. The administration, not the actual Palestinian territory, was transferred.

Not that it matters. The UNPC was a no show and did not defend the territory or people under their trust.

T he people the trustees answer to do, and in this case it was the LoN. No the land was transferred, or are you saying that Jordan does not exist now as it was created in the same international law as the Jewish national home.


The UNPC was not a defender of the arab muslims terrorists, it was an administration to assist the people achieve self determination. The arab muslims turned it down so it did nothing for them, so the Jews took advantage and claimed everything.



The arab muslims missed a chance to create something good and blame everyone else for their failure

 

[P F Tinmore]

How did they come to be in the mandate of palestine

They weren't. The Mandate had already left Palestine.

The Mandate was not an entity that came or left. Your confusion regarding the most basic elements of knowledge regarding the history of the area is concerning.

The Mandate was not an entity at all. It was a temporarily assigned administration.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, --- they are facts; to be sure. In one context they can event be true. But your implications are 180º out of phase with what those facts actually mean.

P F Tinmore, et al,

WoW!

(QUESTION)

Is this what you call revisionist history?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab armies fought Israeli forces in Palestine. How is that attacking Israel?

How do you manage to get the facts so completely befuddled?

That's the facts.

Do you have any real history that says different?

(COMMENT)

As explained in my Posting #191 (including the Map)., as well as in my Posting #196, your interpretation of the meaning is not factual --- not factual at all ---- not even close.

Yes we can say there is a truth here! --- This is true only to the degree that you understand that any military engagement --- by the unauthorized advance of armed forces --- into any territory in the former Mandate of Palestine is an act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

former Mandate of Palestine​

Why do you keep using that propaganda term. You can just as accurately use former mandate for Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq, but I don't think you ever have. Why not?

It is not a propaganda term at all, it is the legal term for the area. The former mandate of palestine included Jordan if you look, and this pisses you right off.

 

[P F Tinmore]

When the Mandate was terminated, the territory transferred to the UN Trusteeship under the Administration of the UN Palestine Commission.

Trustees don't own anything. The administration, not the actual Palestinian territory, was transferred.

Not that it matters. The UNPC was a no show and did not defend the territory or people under their trust.

You're learning... albeit at a crippled snail's pace.

There was no territory owned by Pal'istanians and there was no "country of Pal'istan" in spite of insistence to the contrary. So, it seems your flailing about is only for melodramatic affect.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

Sidestepping Tinmore dance moves.

Truly, you need some new slogans to dump into the thread when you're utterly befuddled.

You spew Israeli talking points without offering any proof that they are true.

 

[Hollie]

How did they come to be in the mandate of palestine

They weren't. The Mandate had already left Palestine.

The Mandate was not an entity that came or left. Your confusion regarding the most basic elements of knowledge regarding the history of the area is concerning.

The Mandate was not an entity at all. It was a temporarily assigned administration.

That's what I 'splained to you. Do you feel better now that you corrected your mistake by reiterating what I 'splained?

 

[Phoenall]

In effect, a partition physically happened on the signing of the various Armistice Agreement.

The armistice agreements divided Palestine into three areas of occupation. They did not partition Palestine.

It set the scene for future reference and it was not until 1988 that the arab muslims realised they were losing everything they never had

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

WoW!

Nobody attacked Israel.

(QUESTION)

Is this what you call revisionist history?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab armies fought Israeli forces in Palestine. How is that attacking Israel?

How do you manage to get the facts so completely befuddled?

That's the facts.

Do you have any real history that says different?

No all you have is islamonazi propaganda that you cant substantiate

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

WoW!

(QUESTION)

Is this what you call revisionist history?

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab armies fought Israeli forces in Palestine. How is that attacking Israel?

How do you manage to get the facts so completely befuddled?

That's the facts.

Do you have any real history that says different?

No all you have is islamonazi propaganda that you cant substantiate

You are ducking my post.

 

[Phoenall]

How did they come to be in the mandate of palestine

They weren't. The Mandate had already left Palestine.

The Mandate was not an entity that came or left. Your confusion regarding the most basic elements of knowledge regarding the history of the area is concerning.

The Mandate was not an entity at all. It was a temporarily assigned administration.

That was the mandatory power, not the mandate. How many more times of repeating this will it take for you to understand that the mandate was a legal entity

 

[Phoenall]

When the Mandate was terminated, the territory transferred to the UN Trusteeship under the Administration of the UN Palestine Commission.

Trustees don't own anything. The administration, not the actual Palestinian territory, was transferred.

Not that it matters. The UNPC was a no show and did not defend the territory or people under their trust.

You're learning... albeit at a crippled snail's pace.

There was no territory owned by Pal'istanians and there was no "country of Pal'istan" in spite of insistence to the contrary. So, it seems your flailing about is only for melodramatic affect.

Unsubstantiated Israeli talking points.

Sidestepping Tinmore dance moves.

Truly, you need some new slogans to dump into the thread when you're utterly befuddled.

You spew Israeli talking points without offering any proof that they are true.

What Israeli talking points are those then, show were they have been used ?