Teacher Insults Mexican Student, Mexican Sues School

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A middle-school student who says she was offended by remarks her teacher made after she wore a Mexico soccer shirt to class is planning to file a lawsuit against her school district, a Latino rights group announced Thursday

Aviles said the comments began after she showed up for school during the World Cup games last year wearing a Mexico soccer jersey. She said her performing arts teacher asked whether she was Mexican.

When she answered yes, Aviles said, the teacher responded that “because of people like you, I pay high taxes, and because of people like you, my insurance is sky high,” according to official statements.

Teen To Sue District For Teacher’s Reaction To Mexico Soccer Jersey « CBS Los Angeles
 
Yeah dickheaded to say ... she shouldnt be allowed to sue anyone but him. Not the school district. Thats about stupid.
 
Teacher should be fired. Clearly if he/she feels this way it is possible Mexican students may not be treated in a fair manner in her class. Student shouldn't be allowed to sue anyone. Learn to buck up and get over it. Someone saying something you find insulting is not a justification to sue.
 
“because of people like you, I pay high taxes, and because of people like you, my insurance is sky high,”


PLEASE CIRCULATE:

61 Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to legal and illegal aliens each year.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd8

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The legal and illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border http://www.house.gov/sites/members/tx10_mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

12. The National Policy Institute "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. $25 billion dollars in remittances is sent back to Mexico, as a result of exporting poverty and low skill labor into the United States. Mexican carries 25 to $45 billion dollars a year taken into Mexico as a result of the illicit drug trade into the United States.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/02/ldt.01.html

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the United States".
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

15. Every day 12 Americans are murdered by an illegal alien. Another 13 Americans are killed by uninsured drunk illegal aliens and 8 American Children are victims of a sex crime committed by an illegal alien each and every day!
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html

16. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9c

17. "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine". "Many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American Medicine fought and vanquished long ago, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue and Chagas disease." The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
http://www.jpands.org/jpands1001.htm

18. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (CDC): http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/hispanics/resources/factsheets/hispanic.htm

19. If enacted the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years - fully one-third of the current population of the United States.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2006/05/Senate-Immigration-Bill-Would-Allow-100-Million-New-Legal-Immigrants-over-the-Next-Twenty-Years

20. In 2007, legal and illegal aliens cost the federal government more than $346 BILLION dollars and the U.S. taxpayers paid more than $ 9,000. for each immigrant in the country!
http://www.esrresearch.com/Rubensteinreport.pdf

21. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States may be as high as 20 million people, more than double the official 9 million people estimated by the Census Bureau. 1/3/05
http://www.bearstearns.com/bscportal/pdfs/underground.pdf

22. Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S. - The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy." Leprosy is an airborne virus; it can also be spread by touching and coughing.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78621

23. Two-thirds of illegal aliens lack a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, into their legal status or heavy use of most social services.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

24. America Welcomes Illegal's Contagious Disease.
http://www.rense.com/general64/ill.htm

25. Mexico is the 4th Richest Oil Nation in the World.
www.latinamericanstudies.org/mexico/lopez-portillo.htm

26. The United Nations list Mexico as the number one center for the supply of young children to international pedophile organizations. http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mexico.htm

27. An illegal alien parent receives welfare benefits on behalf of his or her U.S. citizen child. Regardless of the parents immigration status may receive welfare and other benefits. When such a child receives assistance, the aid also helps support the child’s family. SOURCE: Illegal Aliens Extent of Welfare Benefits, Page 1. http://www.gao..gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

28. In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to household with an illegal alien parent.
http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf

29. U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion. It's reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/06/20041206-102115-6766r/

30. One illegal alien family, costs the U.S. taxpayers more than $32,000 in federal, state and local benefits each year. That same family contributes an average of $9,000 a year in taxes, resulting in a net tax burden of $22,449 each year. If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for estimation purposes, the total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion per year.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135

31. Department of Justice, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Department of Homeland Security spent $20 million or more in 2008 to litigate deportation orders for illegal aliens. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/18/justice-department-fail-enforce-deportation-orders/

32. In 2007, DHS apprehended nearly 961,000 foreign nationals. Nearly 89 percent were natives of Mexico.
The leading countries of origin of those removed were Mexico. DHS removed 99,900 known criminal aliens from the United States." Immigration Enforcement Actions: 2007http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/enforcement_ar_07.pdf Or http://www.hsdl.org/hslog/?q=node/4572

33. Based on studies by the Pew Hispanic Center and the Heritage Foundation, households headed by less-educated illegal aliens use $40 billion more in public services each year than they pay in taxes.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/09/ldt.01.html

34. In 2008 report by the Department of Justice indicated that Mexican drug trafficking organizations now operate in 195 cities in the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.RES.72: Text of Legislation

35. In 2008 National Drug Threat Assessment by the Department of Justice identified drug organizations from Mexico as the greatest criminal threat to the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.RES.72: Text of Legislation

36. The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States.
http://uscode.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001101----000-.html

37. Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2009
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_ill_pe_2009.pdf

38. "The Pew Hispanic Center study from February 2009 found that even though Hispanics make up 13 percent of the adult population, they accounted for 40 percent of sentenced federal offenders in 2007." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/29/border-states-dealing-illegal-immigrant-crime-data-suggests/

39. Amnesty Costs 70 Times More Than Enforcement, the cost of amnesty: $999 billion. The cost of attrition by enforcement: as little as $14 billion. Amnesty would cost up to 70 times as much as enforcing existing law. Source: The Heritage Foundation
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/amnesty-costs-10-times-more-than-enforcement.html

40. A collection of newspaper stories of crimes committed by illegal aliens gathered by a group of patriots.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/549214-illegal-alien-crime-wave-thread-59.html

41. Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration.
http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/azcosts2.pdf?docID=101

42. Phoenix, Az. has become the kidnapping capital of the United States, because of illegal immigration and human smuggling, according to the head of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association.
http://www.kpho.com/news/16706369/detail.html

43. If current trends continue, the population of the United States will rise to 438 million in 2050, from 296 million in 2005, and 82% of the increase will be due to immigrants. The non-Hispanic white population will increase more slowly than other racial and ethnic groups; whites will become a minority (47%) by 2050.
http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/85.pdf

44. In California, the cost of free medical care for illegal aliens forced 60 hospitals to close between 1993 and 2003. http://www.amren.com/features/hispanics/index.html

45. "For most lawmakers, DWI stands for “driving while intoxicated.” For Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), DWI stands for “driving while illegal. He also said, that illegal immigrants were intentionally causing car accidents along state freeways."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/04/20/2010-04-20_john_mccain_illegal_immigrants_are_intentionally_causing_car_accidents.html

46. Crossing of Border Threaten preserve, By Mary Jo Pitzl, The Arizona Republic, October 16, 2004 (On illegal alien crossing) "which imperils the habitat for the more than 300 species of animals and the nearly 400 plant types within the refuge."
http://www.desertinvasion.us/articles/articles2004_july_dec.html

47. The twenty-four border counties along the line with Mexico are home to some of the largest undeclared garbage dumps in the United States. Millions of illegal aliens have left thousands of tons in trash behind scattered across the deserts and mountains of New Mexico, Texas, Arizona and California.
http://www.examiner.com/x-17495-San-Diego-Immigration-Policy-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Illegal-Immigration-continues-Environment-loses

48. The illegal aliens are endangering both rare wildlife and plant species as well as the pristine lands of the southwestern United States with the thousands of vehicles and tons of garbage they abandon.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104158

49. Arizona Senate Bill 1070 - Read the Bill Online
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/sb1070_bill_text_2010
Senate Bill 1070 Fact Sheet
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/sb1070_fact_sheet_2010

50. If you hire illegal aliens you could be charged with, conspiring to defraud the United States, harboring illegal aliens for profit, and evading payment of federal employment taxes. Failing to collect and pay federal income, Social Security, Medicare, and federal employment taxes on the wages paid to its workforce. You will criminally abuse our immigration system and our tax laws for the purpose of financial gain. For more info, visit US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. To report suspicious activity, call 1-866-347-2423.
http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/071107grandrapids.htm

51. Drug-resistant tuberculosis was introduced to the United States in 1993. The disease was more likely to be in persons who were foreign born. TB presents a global threat and a challenge to TB-control activities in the United States.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5611a3.htm

52. IMO, "Roconquista" is a movement to reclaim land, Ron Gochez a Reconquista activist and Santee High School teacher in California explains it perfectly. Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iybaDyMr1rs


53. A National Highway Traffic Safety Administration study found that Hispanics, particularly recent immigrants, are often distrustful of police and government agencies
http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20060622/NEWS/606220415

54. "Estimate for Deporting Illegal Immigrants: $94 Billion", the number was arrived at by multiplying 12 million illegal aliens by the average cost of detaining people for a day: $97. That was multiplied by detention time: 32 days. They also added transportation cost of $ 1,000. per person.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/estimate-for-deporting-illegal-immigrants-94-billion/?hp
OR
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/deportation.cost/index.html

55. It cost $5.8 billion for years 2001 - 2004 to incarcerate criminal aliens this was a 15 % increase, most inmates were from Mexico. The percentage of all federal prisoners who are criminal aliens has remained the same over the last 3 years—about 27 percent.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf

56. A study of 55,322 illegal aliens, found: They were arrested a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. 12 % were arrested for violent offenses such as murder, robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. 80% of all arrests occurred in three states--California, Texas, and Arizona. http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05646r.html

57. Listen to the Senators on the Senate floor. You can do other things on your computer while you're listening. On C-Span2 at C-Span.org OR
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

58. IMO, in recent days the illegal aliens have marched carrying their protest signs, here are a few. You'll begin to see their logic and what they think about America.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-anti-arizona-protest-signs

59. Mexican drug smugglers tied to California wild fire. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57G4SB20090818?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+reuters%252FtopNews+%2528News+%252F+US+%252F+Top+News%2529

60. A report shows that 75% of illegal aliens have less than a 6th grade education. Over 71% have children. 30% admit of using forged social security cards, and half of them have done so, for more than 5 years.
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/pdf/three-one/sandiego.pdf


61. “1 illegal arrested, 3 sought in beheading in Chandler, Arizona” The Arizona Republic Newspaper, 10/12/10
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/10/12/20101012beheaded1012.html

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In my opinion, what other laws are illegal aliens violating? Tax laws, Environmental laws, vagrancy laws, animal cruelty, poaching, squatting... Everyone put your Beanie Caps on tight it's going to be a bumpy ride!

IMO, illegal aliens in America are guilty of bio-terrorism, agro-terrorism, fraud, tax evasion, murder, identity theft, larceny, rape, gang bangers, vagrants, diseased, violence, pedophiles, pyromaniacs, auto theft, drunk drivers, kidnapping, saboteurs, and their an exception to the rules. How Much More Can We Stand?

IMO, I think we Americans need to form organizations nationwide and advertise Free Safe Passage and $100.00 on air conditioned buses, for any illegal alien that wants to return to their country of origin. "A-Free-Get-Out-Town-Free-Card, so, to speak.

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Aviles said the comments began after she showed up for school during the World Cup games last year wearing a Mexico soccer jersey. She said her performing arts teacher asked whether she was Mexican.

When she answered yes, Aviles said, the teacher responded that “because of people like you, I pay high taxes, and because of people like you, my insurance is sky high,” according to official statements.

The teacher sounds like one of our own USMB rightwing contributors.
Thomas A. Saenz, MALDEF’s president and general counsel, said the lawsuit brought on behalf of Aviles would allege violations of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.
And she should sue, this is at least a violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Link to the suit.

http://maldef.org/assets/pdf/aviles_v_bear_valley_unified_school_district.pdf
“Our current national environment seems to condone increasingly open and undeserved hostility toward Latino immigrants,” Saenz said. “We must draw the line at the schoolhouse door. Every child deserves the opportunity to learn, free of discriminatory practices and statements from those running the schools.”

Indeed.

Again, we see it on this very forum daily.

To wit:

I wonder what the teacher meant by that???
“because of people like you, I pay high taxes, and because of people like you, my insurance is sky high,”


PLEASE CIRCULATE:

61 Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens

Coral Aviles, the student filing the complaint, is a US citizen.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the mexicans have signed on with the jihad's. Our doom will be from within our own borders.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the mexicans have signed on with the jihad's. Our doom will be from within our own borders.

You better get your gold, survivor seeds, solar generator and food stores it may get rough.
 
A middle-school student who says she was offended by remarks her teacher made after she wore a Mexico soccer shirt to class is planning to file a lawsuit against her school district, a Latino rights group announced Thursday

Aviles said the comments began after she showed up for school during the World Cup games last year wearing a Mexico soccer jersey. She said her performing arts teacher asked whether she was Mexican.

When she answered yes, Aviles said, the teacher responded that “because of people like you, I pay high taxes, and because of people like you, my insurance is sky high,” according to official statements.

Teen To Sue District For Teacher’s Reaction To Mexico Soccer Jersey « CBS Los Angeles

Kind of a F'd up thing to say to a kid.
 
The authorities should check the parent’s immigration status. The town should support the teacher and start kicking ass and taking names.
 
Just because someone has the right to sue, doesn't mean they should. If the situation can be resolved with the teacher's dismissal, let it go. Insults, IMO, do not warrant lawsuits. If that were true, there a few people here on this board alone that would qualify.

As a woman I've heard folks say some very offensive things about/to women. As a woman in the Army, I can't even begin to tell you some of the asinine things I heard come from people's mouths. In fact, someone here the other day said "Women aren't real vets." I could have gone into that thread and let them have it, but I know in the end I'm not going to change their attitude by becoming offended. If you want to change attitudes it is more effective to do so by example and the manner in which you live your life, not lawsuits.
 
Immigration Customs & Enforcement = ICE

The teachers nationwide should find out if students have illegal alien parent(s) and start anonymously reporting them. Get on the band wagon, it's time all Americans started fighting back and report illegal aliens whenever possible.

Report suspicious activity by calling the Border Patrol toll free at (1-877) 872-7435. All calls will be answered and remain anonymous.

The rest of America will be patting you on the back for being a good patriot! :clap2:
 
According to the sketchy information in the news article, she tried to complain to the principal but was denied. Sounds like the basis for a lawsuit to me.

The school district could have taken more immediate action and avoided this whole thing.

Sorry, my money's on the kid.
 
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

American-born children of illegal aliens are still American citizens. Deal with it.

Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S. - The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy." Leprosy is an airborne virus; it can also be spread by touching and coughing.

Leprosy (a.k.a. Hansen's Disease) is caused by the bacteria Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis, and as such can be treated by antibiotics.

7,000 cases out of 310 million people is less than 0.002%. Who gives a fuck?
 
The teacher has an obligation to not harm the student. Xenophobic remarks about how the student's "people" do things to the teacher is not OK. That shit is abusive.
 
With that teacher being fired, it looks like the perfect job opening for you there CP
 
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

American-born children of illegal aliens are still American citizens. Deal with it.

Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S. - The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy." Leprosy is an airborne virus; it can also be spread by touching and coughing.

Leprosy (a.k.a. Hansen's Disease) is caused by the bacteria Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis, and as such can be treated by antibiotics.

7,000 cases out of 310 million people is less than 0.002%. Who gives a fuck?

I care!

We went from practically zero leprosy cases to more than 7,000 cases because the illegal aliens are bringing it into our country.
If the leper touches something and someone else touches that same object, they could get leprosy. Also, if the leper coughs, any person in the path of that cough, could contract it.

Deport all illegal aliens!
 
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I'm sorry, but ANY American citizen who is actively rooting for ANY team other than the United States representative in ANY tournament, deserves to get yelled at, screamed at, abused verbally, and possibly physically. I see it all the time around here whenever the US Men's Soccer team plays any of the Central/South American teams. Half (or better) of the fans at the game are wearing the colors of Mexico, Columbia, Argentina, Brazil, etc... yet they leave the game and go directly home to the suburbs of Boston.
 
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

American-born children of illegal aliens are still American citizens. Deal with it.

Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S. - The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy." Leprosy is an airborne virus; it can also be spread by touching and coughing.

Leprosy (a.k.a. Hansen's Disease) is caused by the bacteria Mycobacterium leprae and Mycobacterium lepromatosis, and as such can be treated by antibiotics.

7,000 cases out of 310 million people is less than 0.002%. Who gives a fuck?

I care!

We went from practically zero leprosy cases to more than 7,000 cases because the illegal aliens are bringing it into our country.
If the leper touches something and someone else touches that same object, they could get leprosy. Also, if the leper coughs, any person in the path of that cough, could contract it.

Deport all illegal aliens!

How odd...Zero cases you say? I wonder why my college town in upstate NY had an active hospital for leprosy cases then....seems silly with Zero cases...don't you think?
 

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